Hannity picked up the Nader "chronic whiners" comment

[Hep]

Milking it like nobody's business. I get it on delay, did anyone else hear it?

Apparently all democrats know how to do is whine!

[Robin Hood]

1. Nader doing his part to help the GOP.

Thank you Saint Ralph. Fucking moron.

[Gephard]

2. Thanks Nader you &*$%^#$%%!!!!!!!!

[Wonk]

3. So, let's have yet another DU thread bitching and whining about Nader?

:shrug: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=680455&mesg_id=680455

[Robin Hood]

6. Why bother to protect this GOP tool?

Hasn't he done enough damage?

[Hep]

7. I've said my piece

in the other thread. Just thought Sean's picking it up is noteworthy enough for a new thread. The other one is huge anyway.

[Selwynn]

22. ...and counted to three. :)

(O brother where art thou)

[The Sushi Bandit]

4. Quit Whining about Nader

Ralph speaks the TRUTH

Quote from Ralph

"They should realize that the retrospect on Florida concluded Gore won Florida," the consumer activist told the Wisconsin State Journal on Saturday. "It was stolen from the Democrats. And they should concentrate on the thieves and the blunderers in Florida, not on the Green Party."

[jiacinto]

8. That is so self-serving, it really is

He has the gall to say that when he ran to defeat Gore.

[Scott Lee]

10. No love lost when the Democrats kept him from debating!

I would say the Democrats sure worked overtime to earn the animosity of the Greens.

Hopefully they will learn not to repeat the same mistake.

Or..........

[Deja Q]

17. Link?

That would be nice...

Hell, Buchanan ran to defeat Gore as well. Most Presidential candidates want to win, and that means you have to defeat all the other candidates.

[Cheswick2.0]

25. what bullshit

sorry but the man is no better at taking responsibility for his actions than *. Pathetic

[chaumont58]

5. Perfect timing! There was a thread this morning about why Dems...

hate ole DarthNader. Another 12 hours, and they could have been combined.

[Scott Lee]

9. Damn Nader! Why doesn't he start lying for a change??

Some of you need to wake up and look at yourselves before you light into that awful Nader. How can you REFUTE Nader's comments about Democrats being chronic whiners when you conjure thread after thread demonstrating how Nader is RIGHT?

Think about it!

[The Zanti Regent]

11. Tell it to my nephew

My nephew went to Iraq, took a bullet in the spine and now is a quadraplegic thanks to Nader.

I hope Nader drives a Corvair into a brick wall!

[Scott Lee]

15. Excuse me..."Nader" did this to your nephew HOW?

That sounds like the family of the victims on the Hindenburg suing God for making hydrogen!

Give me a break.

[Robin Hood]

21. Bullshit!!

Nader and his minions had an absolute hand in creating the mess that we are in now. Remember that there is no difference between the two parties, remember that?!!

[tedoll78]

24. The word is..

"accomplice." Look it up.

[Scott Lee]

35. OK, here is the definition for "accomplice"...

Accomplice n. An associate in wrongdoing, especially one who aids or abets another in a criminal act, either as a principal or an accessory.

Now in legal terms, to be an accomplice you have to knowingly, or with intent, seek to assist the principal in the crime.

Are you saying that Ralph Nader intentionally and willfully assisted George W Bush in making war on Iraq? Can you cite a shred of evidence, ANYWHERE, to support such a fruitcake pipedream?

Let us know if you come up with anything (or when you come back to planet earth).

[roughsatori]

13. Nader is right, blaming him is boring and cowardly

But it is easier then fighting the Republicans. I know some Dems who blame Nader for our going to Iraq and yet they will vote for one of the Dem nominees who voted to give Bush the authorization to go to Iraq as well as voted for the Patriot Act. :shrug:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

12. hannity completely misrepresnted ralph

big surprise

from my earlier thread:

"the gas station i was in about a half hour ago was torturing its customers with clearchannel's wonderful 'news' station.
sean hannity was playing bits of a recent al gore speech (intertwined with the so-called 'invented the internet' clip-sean can't let a good lie die) criticizing bush's policies inthe war on terra
he then went on with a spiel that gore 'actually thinks he won the election' and that he should listen to ralph nader 'who says gore needs to quit whinging about 2000'
of course, he conveniently leaves out the fact that nader was only referring to the talk of his role as a spoiler and that he went on to say: '"They should realize that the retrospect on Florida concluded Gore won Florida.......It was stolen from the Democrats. And they should concentrate on the thieves and the blunderers in Florida, not on the Green Party."
so sean tries to act like nader concurs that bush 'won' tthe election and that gore needs to 'get over it' and not criticize bush in any way, shape, or form whatsoever
yet more intellectual dishonesty from the lying liars at clear channel"

[Iverson]

14. of course

Note well, though, in what direction the anger goes in response.

[KG]

18. noted.

[Scott Lee]

16. Like many DUers happily misrepresent Dean....

There's a hell of an equation....

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[MSchreader]

23. INCOMING!

5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... :nuke:

:evilgrin:

Oh, you know this is going to incite something....

Martin
*Getting popcorn and pop*

[Cheswick2.0]

26. try some real honesty Rich

tell the trutgh about Naders effects on the 2000 race and compare that to his aggenda (making americans suffer so they will revolt). Unless you can do that, what right do you have to call anyone on anything. What's pathelogical is your insistance on following the Nader talking points to a fault with no real analysis of what Nader did (and on purpose). Sorry you don't like the way people talk about Nader, but this is Democratic Underground, what do you expect?

[Iverson]

28. depressing cutbacks to education

Let me see if I understand you correctly: the reflexive demonization and all-caps screams of "fuck Nader," which are regular features of these threads, get a free pass from you, but RichM's objections are pathological instead and without real analysis.

Because the term "Democratic" is contained in democraticunderground, yours is a clear-headed approach which makes you and the other Nader haters qualified interlocutors for discussion of Nader, Greens, and the 2000 election, but RichM does not have the right (your term) to comment because of the positions he takes.

This is liberalism???? Good grief.

[Patriot_Spear]

33. The moral cowardice of Greens is astonishing...

Unable to take responsibility for helping Bush*, they turn on the only party that could even begin to see their point of view.

Absolutely amazing.

[RichM]

34. It's disgraceful that the moderators removed my post. Criticizing Nader-

-hating is now apparently illegal on DU! What a bunch of contemptible cowards Democrats are -- resorting to censorship to avoid having to hear the truth.

For anyone looking at this: in the post that was deleted, I attacked no one in particular, and used no naughty language. I merely said that the Nader-bashing on DU was "beyond pathological," & that it signified cowardice.

That was apparently too much for the censors here! :puke:

[PatrickS]

20. Sometimes Democrats aren't very quick

The fact that Nader says Democrats are whiners is so full of contradictions that the sad part of all of this is the fact that no on the left is seemingly quick enough to respond pointedly back at him. For instance, Nader says that Repukes and Democrats are the same but then he says Democrats are just a bunch of whiners. If Demos and Repukes are the same, then that means Republicans are also whiners. And then there's the fact that Nader says Democrats aren't vocal enough but then he critiques them for being "whiners". Ralph, you can't have it both ways. I know he saying that Democrats are whiners because they blame him for losing the election but it's still the same. But the worst part about this is the fact that there are more important things to be concern with, like the terrible economy, the unjust invasion of EYEraq, the dying soldiers, the numerous scandals with Bush and on the right, and the one thing he has time to "complain" about is that Democrats are whiners. What a loser!

[tedoll78]

27. Look who's talking..

"I used to make a real difference in peoples' lives. Now all I do is whine and whine and whine about the two-party system, because if I whine enough, millions of Americans will suddenly magically agree with me and act to change the system. Yes, that's the ticket.. we're going to fix this evil two-one-party system if I whine enough! That's very realistic of me! Really!"

"Hey.. I have our strategy for 2004 - let's whine some more about the Dems and GOPers! That'll change things for the better! No, no, working with others for realistic goals doesn't work! Who cares if Bush is re-elected when I run? That'd be GOOD for us! Up is down in this world - remember? Bombing in Iraq means progress! Nine Scalias on the court is progress!" {insert more whining about Democrats here, peppered with acts to move America away one's own alleged ideals..}

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. It says a lot about Nader

when Hannity starts using his comments against the Dems. He should be proud. JMCPO

[Iverson]

31. totally illogical

Using that reasoning, it is somehow discredits Martin Luther King when Republicans try to appropriate his words and reputation.

Have a bipartisan day.

[Postman]

30. Who whined about the Senate Intel Committee "Memo" ????

and why WEREN'T the repubs whining about the out CIA agent?????

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