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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:29 AM
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MoveOn should push Gore to reconsider!
I am a big Clark/Dean fan and I do think they have a good chance to win it all... BUT.. If Al Gore were to reconsider at the urging of some prominent Democratic organizations, I think it would stir up this race big time!

MoveOn obviously loves Big Al and MoveOn obviously has the influence to influence Big Al! For all those folks who say this would hurt Gore and the Democrats, I say nonsense. I think Al Gore is in a stronger position than he was 1 year ago! Everything the man talked about in 2000 has come true in 2003. He's got the ammo to kick George Dubya Bush squarely in the balls!

Listen... I've gotten over Gore's decision to not run and I'm not one of these daily dreamers about him reentering the race...BUT...I do occasionally say to myself, What If?
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:53 AM
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1. Why do you think that?
Sure, if the SCUSA hadn't intervened, Gore might have ended up in the White House. Still, the man himself had done little to help his cause all the way up to election day. He ran a pathetic campaign that almost created George Bush through its incompetence.

What makes anyone think that all of a sudden Gore has become a great leader and campaigner?

He shaved off his beard?

I just don't see it.

He says he isn't running. Hillary says she isn't running. Bill can't run. Let it be.

Things are difficult enough for the anti-Bush forces. Let this sleeping dog be.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:09 AM
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3. Ya see..I love folks like you
because you're so influenced by the Media Ho's... Please tell me how a guy like Gore can come back from a 15 point deficit at the beginning of the Presidential elections and beat the guy he was running against by 500,000 votes? That's pathetic?.... You need to get your naïve butt over to The Daily Howler and read his incomparable archives before you make such ignorant statements!
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:15 AM
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5. If, if if,...if you had spit in one hand and spit in the other hand;
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 09:16 AM by pinerow
What do you have the most of?

I agree with the poster who said that Gore ran a crappy campaign; I take it a bit further...Lieberman as running mate...?...there are or at least were more than a dozen people to choose from including but not limited to, Feintstein, Feingold, Wellstone (Which probably would have contributed to his being alive today)and any number of Democratic Representatives and other elected officials.

Sorry folks...Gore is not, nor ever claimed to be the Messiah.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:40 AM
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7. Answer my question
How could a guy 15 points down beat his opponant by 500,000 votes... You can't reconcile that now can you? Now if Gore was 15 points up and lost by 500,000 votes then I'd say he ran a bad campaign... But wait a minute...Dubya did that and he's sitting in the White House...SO..did Dubya run a good campaign? Do you see how stupid the "He ran a lousy campaign" comments are...

BTW: Did you ever stop for a minute and think that Lieb may have delivered Florida to Gore?
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:16 PM
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10. You can thank Diebold for its part in the FL elections in 2000 n/t
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:05 AM
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2. I'd love Gore to get into the race.
Listening to him give his speech the other day made me think there is a President I could be proud of.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:10 AM
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4. What we need is ONE MORE candidate.
n/t
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:19 AM
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6. It's a shame about Gore, but ...
The vast brainwashed hoardes who support Bush are still making fun of Gore, and too many independents listen to this and still haven't caught on to how they've been had. A NEW challenger against Bush would have a better shot of winning it.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:55 AM
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8. What if?
It would put the Democratic party in turmoil.

The other candidates and their supporters would be fighting even more. Gore would get all the publicity, and Dean, Clark, Gephardt, etc would be left with nothing but seething resentment. The party would be fractured in so many pieces that Bush would win in the biggest landslide in history.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:07 AM
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9. Gore has more influence if he isn't running
Compare his Sunday speech to the bland speeches he was making during election 2000, and you'll see that Gore has a lot more freedom as a non-candidate than he does as a candidate.

If he were a candidate for the Democratic nomination:

- his Sunday speech would have been attacked as simple partisan politics

- he would be making speeches more frequently, causing the Sunday speech to have less impact

- the other candidates would have found fault with some of his statements rather than simply praising his speech

Personally, I want Gore to stay out of the election, but keep making speeches like this one.
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liberalcapitalist Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:23 PM
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11. if Gore were running, there wouldn't be all this in-fighting
I'm mad as hell that he decided not to run!
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