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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:43 PM
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Poll question: Hypothetically, if the presidential election came down to this:
Zell Miller (w/ Lieberman as VP)
vs
John McCain (w/ Powell as VP)

Who would you choose to lead the country?
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:44 PM
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1. Which two of these four Republicans should I choose?
Tough one!
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:46 PM
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2. Is there a Green party candidate?
About the only time I'd support them, but still....
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:46 PM
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3. Very easy choice
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 03:48 PM by pmbryant
Unthinking GOP stooge: Miller
vs
(Fairly) Honest GOP maverick: McCain

McCain, no question.

EDIT: The Veep choices are irrelvant, though of course I would pick Joe Lieberman for President over any of the other 3 in a heartbeat if that were the option.

--Peter
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:57 PM
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16. VP choices "irrelevant"?
How can you say that, when Cheney is by far the most powerful man in the world right now (if you exclude his heart health)?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:47 PM
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4. Get real!
Zell is a Republican that backs Bush in 04. Powell is a pathological liar and a war criminal. McCain lost his way a long time ago.

Lieberman, OTOH, has a good record on women and gay rights. I would vote for Lierberman (while holding my nose over his moralizing) over any combination of Miller, Powell, and Miller.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:48 PM
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5. I refuse to vote in this poll
There WOULD be a third party candidate in such a scneario and that candidate would have my vote.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:49 PM
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7. Yes!
And the 3rd party candidate would likely win if he/she was sufficiently mainstream, as Miller and McCain would split the GOP vote.

--Peter
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:50 PM
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10. The question was who you'd prefer to lead the country,
not which one you'd vote for.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:51 PM
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13. My answer, anarchy is better than the choice above
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 04:04 PM by Walt Starr
No leader. Street level chaos would be preferable.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:50 PM
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11. Same. (n/t)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:49 PM
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6. Sounds like Banana Republic options.
So, I'm guessing that's about the choice we'll have in 2008 if a good Dem doesn't win in 2004.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:50 PM
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8. McCain and Powell are good regardless
Good poll.

McCain and Powell are progressive and moderate enough to be Democrats. Good old Zell is a DINO if I ever saw one. Lieberman is a twit, albeit a Democratic twit.

There was talk last year of drafting McCain for the Dems. And it seems like Powell wants to quit the administration. Probably had enough of being the token black guy that nobody listens too.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:59 PM
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18. The only "good" in Powell is that he is a "good" liar
there are no redeeming qualities in any of them, except for Lieberman, the only pro-choice and pro-gay rights candidate in the group.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:50 PM
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9. probably
Satan/Stalin
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:50 PM
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12. what the frick? i'd move to CANADA!!
seriously, i was wondering if it would be possible for the dem nominee to pick someone outside the party as his/her vp.. like mccain. kinda like that movie with james garner & jack lemmon.. weren't they from different parties and they ran on the same ticket?

not that i want to see that happen
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:52 PM
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14. It is possible...look at the 1864 Republican ticket
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) for President
Andrew Johnson (D-TN) for Vice-President
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:57 PM
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25. Ahhh, I remember it well
If memory serves me, Lincoln and Johnson ran as a National Unity ticket and were threatened in the popular vote by General George McClellen running on the Democratic Party ticket (55% Lincoln, 45% McClellen). McClellen only got 21 electoral votes, compared to Lincoln's 212, so I guess it wasn't all that close.

Big Al (age 175)
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:53 PM
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15. it's like asking
who's better: Hitler or Stalin?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:59 PM
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17. candidates
i will vote bush/cheney '04. that way the earth will be destroyed by war, pollution, greed. about 5 billion years from now humans will again appear and hopefully not make the same mistakes of 2000.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:02 PM
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19. Well sheesh, you guys aren't very loyal Democrats, are you?
Thats a good thing I suppose. You have values, principles.
Republicans, on the other hand, would support an intelligence-deficient smirking monkey if it was the RNC's choice.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:05 PM
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20. McCain would be a good choice compared to Bush*
its a matter of who can best lead. I don't agree with much John says, but I violently despise nearly all Bush* spews. I don't trust Zell Miller to ever do the right thing after his behavior in the last year or so (he hasn't always voted so awfully on key issues). I could give a rats ass about the VP slots - neither VP suggested would be as dangerous as the clown running the circus at present.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:07 PM
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21. if Lieberman were at the top of the ticket I would vote for him, but
with Zell at the top I would not vote on the presidential ballot as I don't think McCain and Powell are a great ticket either.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:10 PM
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22. I'd vote for McCain and Powell.
They are actually to the left of Zell.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:11 PM
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23. McCain/Powell Why?
Because Powell would do what he's told (it has nothing to do with his race, but with his non-racial status as Bushevik Toady).
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:51 PM
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24. Looks like we have a few freepers on board.
It will be over my dead body before I would EVER vote for any Republican. I don't trust any of them. Just look what they have done to OUR country. RE-ELECT A DEMOCRAT IN 2004!!!!
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:00 PM
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26. Those are some harsh accusations.
Care to elaborate on who the "freepers" in here are? I'd like to hear it from you.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:10 PM
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27. It's against DU rules to call someone a freeper
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:13 PM
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29. That's why I can't vote in this
It's a cjhoice of two Republicans versus a couple of members of the GOP.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:12 PM
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28. There's more to life than party labels.
I would vote for Chaffee before I'd vote for many Democrats.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:21 PM
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30. Is this a choice???
I thought it was that four-headed beast from hell. I would first slay the beast, then cremate its deformed beastly body, then post each manlike head on the White House lawn..allowing all future Presidents to see what will become of any such unnatural manbeast. :nopity:

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