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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:28 PM
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My candidate is better because he supports flag burning
Or vica verca.... My candidate is better because he doesn't support flag burning.

This is why I HATE the primaries.... we're debating stuff that has little or no meaning to about 99.9% of people.
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joshan361 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:30 PM
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1. kudos N/T
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:30 PM
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2. I hate your candidate cuz he has poofy hair...no I like your
candidate cuz he has poofy hair.

I will tell you that I'll only vote for a candidate who has a nice ASS.
If they have a flat flabby ass. That is a deal breaker. So Sharpton IS OUT!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:34 PM
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5. but...but...but.... we bought Al a THIGHMASTER
Dude, it's so funny to see him furiously working to open and close that thing between his legs.



And don't forget to check out the ThighMaster LBX (also known as my "ButtMaster") to keep your hips, buns and outer thighs in great shape, too.
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MagicMan Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:33 PM
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3. My honor student
beat up your candidate
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:33 PM
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4. Exactly
it's best just to get this issue off the table asap and focus on the important issues...like people dying over in Iraq, and a national debt that is growing outta control
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:35 PM
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6. agree
and we are only hurting the real aim...to rid the WH of GW. Let's save the real fights for Twig.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:36 PM
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7. Yeah, I agree. The 1st Amendment?
Who cares???? LOL!!!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:41 PM
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9. Would you support
an Amendment to ban assault weapons? Some people say that's changing the Constitution.

So is the 1st Amendment sacred and the Second is not?

Before we get all carried away here, remember that there are all kinds of ways to come down on Constituional Amendments.

I'm against a flag burning amendment, but I would support an amendment to ban assault weapons so I guess that makes me a constitutional hypocrite.

MzPip
:dem:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:50 PM
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12. I'm very pro-2nd Amendment, also.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 08:52 PM by BullGooseLoony
But, no, I don't think we should have hand grenades and bazookas laying around.

Edited for content.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:57 PM
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14. I suspect for some people
flag burning, symbolic as it is, is as charged an issue as grenades and bazookas laying around.

IT's the whole "slippery slope" arguement. Take away my right to own a bazooka and pretty soon the government will take away my right to own an antique hunting gun.

Take away my right to burn the flag and pretty soon I won't be able to write a letter to the editor or criticize my local mayor.

Neither are like senarios.

MzPip
:dem:
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fsbooks Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:42 PM
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16. If I only had a rocket launcher
to quote Bruce Cockburn.

Here comes the helicopter -- second time today
Everybody scatters and hopes it goes away
How many kids they've murdered only God can say
If I had a rocket launcher...I'd make somebody pay

I don't believe in guarded borders and I don't believe in hate
I don't believe in generals or their stinking torture states
And when I talk with the survivors of things too sickening to relate
If I had a rocket launcher...I would retaliate

On the Rio Lacantun, one hundred thousand wait
To fall down from starvation -- or some less humane fate
Cry for guatemala, with a corpse in every gate
If I had a rocket launcher...I would not hesitate

I want to raise every voice -- at least I've got to try
Every time I think about it water rises to my eyes.
Situation desperate, echoes of the victims cry
If I had a rocket launcher...Some son of a bitch would die<\i>

Mind you, for those who do not understand poetry, he was not advocating violence, but expressing simple frustration, which I understand.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:36 PM
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15. No I wouldn't.
I don't want more specific amendments. The 2nd amendment is sufficient for those with the sense to know that the authors were referring to your basic fire arm or musket, not AKA 47's or suitcase nukes. The Constitution was left vague on purpose--in the hopes that we'd use our common sense (little did they know). As soon as we start adding amendments that specifically limit certain freedoms, Joe wingnut (i.e.; Orrin Hatch) is going to go down that slippery slope and try to add his own amendment specifying which sexual positions are considered deviant. That, we don't need.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:39 PM
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8. I think you are right about some of these issues
A lot of this faux outrage over fringe issues is for entertainment, in my opinion. I doubt if most of the voter public puts flag burning, for example, as one of the top ten or even top 30 important issues.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:55 PM
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13. Protecting the First Amendment is my number one
political issue. Always.

I had NO idea that I would actually have to be concerned about it coming from our own candidates though. This crap hit me like a ton of bricks- and, believe me, my outrage is VERY real.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:44 PM
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10. It's not an issue, it's an insight
The only insights we get into who these people are, what they believe, and how they would govern is through these issues. They are not trivial, they are the heart and soul of the matter. They each try to sound as though they abstractly agree entirely with us, and the only way we have of knowing if they are sincere is when they have to be concrete.

This amendment would affect all 100% of us, and our children, and all future generations. It even affects past generations since it alters the charter handed down to us, and it alters fundamentally how government views our inalienable rights.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:48 PM
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11. well said jobycom
I care a lot about a candidate's attitude towards civil liberties.

And the amendment doesn't talk about "burning" but about "desecration."

The Adbusters flag with corporate-logos in place of stars might be considered "desecration."

I applaud candidates who stand agaisnt a vague amendment instead of trying to win cheap partiot-points.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:59 PM
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17. Kick
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