Poll on bringing the troops home vanishes !

[jonoboy]

http://ninemsn.com.au/

it was there one minute and suddenly vanished. A poll asking
"Should we bring the troops home from Iraq"

It was running at about 75% in the afirmative and reflects popular thinking in Australia, Britain and increasingly the USA.
Yet we have a President, 2 Prime Ministers and a compliant media who are ignoring the wishes of the people.

These men are involved in a massive conspiracy to deny the will of the people.
We have 3 men , George W.Bush, Tony Blair and John Howard who took a pledge to serve the people of their countries honestly and with integrity.
Now service men and women are dying because they will not admit their mistakes.
All three and their supporters have to go.

[DUreader]

1. We are used to that happening here on US media websites

welcome to the memory hole

[HighNoonMeetUp]

2. What would happen to Iraq if everyone just packed up and left

I think all hell would break loose over there and millions of Iraqi innocents would be killed.

[Don Claybrook]

6. I think all hell broke loose some time back

Undoubtedly many Iraqis would die, just as they are dying now. I would dispute your claim of millions, however.

But you asked what would happen to Iraq if everyone just packed up and left. Well, Iraq would finally get to choose a government of its own design. There would very likely be civil war. Turkey might invade the north. The Shias and Sunnis would be at one another's throats for a long time to come. And of course, these are precisely the reasons that Bush Sr. did not go all the way to Baghdad in the first go-round. All of this stuff has been known. The current Bush Administration seems to be the only bunch of idiots left in the world who didn't know this.

Interestingly, many of the same things will happen whether the US stays or goes. The question then becomes, how many US citizens do you want caught in this power struggle? The cat's already out of the bag; it was when the bombs started falling and Saddam and his iron fist left town. There's no putting that genie back in the bottle (sorry for the mixed metaphors). We cannot win, no way, no how. We cannot own Iraq's oil, no matter how badly we want it, no matter how big of a superpower we are. It's not doable.

How many US lives do you want spent in the carnage? That's the only question left.

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[HighNoonMeetUp]

12. Please don't accuse ,me of drinking

I quit many years ago. No intelligent person would make such an asinine remark without facts or cause. Thank you too.

[Desperadoe]

8. What would happen???

"I think all hell would break loose over there and millions of Iraqi innocents would be killed."


Wow, you are so right. They would immeadiatley begin to gas their own people and throw the baby's from the incubators. I'm glad you saw this coming. Now we can never leave. After all, pulling out would not be the manly thing to do....sarcasm off.

Wake up will ya. There were no Iraqi innocents being killed until the US planes began to drop 500 lb bombs on them. Until we finally get the out of there, like we finally did in Vietnam, we will have murdered more Iraqi innocents than Saddammi bin Lost ever did.

[HighNoonMeetUp]

10. I was thinking civil war

I'm guessing the toll would be in the millions.

[Dan]

13. Sadly,

The Iraq people are going to have their say...and we are going to leave.

Can anyone define a 'win/win' situation for us and the Iraq people? I would be curious to hear of it.

If Bush is elected for the first time in 2004 - the draft will follow because the military cannot sustain these tours of duty combined with other committments without an increase in the service. I think that maybe the rich believe that their children will not have to participate in the conflict (like the early years in Vietnam) but there won't be the college deferment - and the borders to Canada will be a little tighter.

I also think that the GOP parents that so love our military and our ability to export war all over the globe, will discover that 'pride' disappears when there is a threat that your child will come home in a body bag. On that day, those that are saying, we must 'stay the course' will reconsider. I have always found it amazing those that benefit the most from the bounties of this nation do everything they can to avoid putting themselves in harms way for the nation. I speak in general terms, but that little turd that writes for the right wing national Review(?) comes to mind, I wouldn't mind being drafted if he was also drafted and in my unit.

I unfortunately believe that we made this mess (elective war and our right to preemptive warfare), so we have some obligation to fit it. But I do not believe that America can be an honest broker. As Americans, today or tomorrow, we are going to have to eat the shit sandwich that Bush made; give the Visa to the United Nations; pack our flag and tuck our tail between our legs and come home - and figure out how to sell it as a victory.

Anyone with half a brain can see the Middle East is getting out of control...but then, I am just a dumb Voter and 'who cares what I think'.

[hang a left]

11. like they aren't now (being killed that is). And by the way, if you

haven't noticed, hell hath broke.

[HighNoonMeetUp]

14. I'm thinking civil war would be much deadly

Millions dead in the first weeks.

[jonoboy]

3. all hell would break loose, a bit like it is now

at least the poll is back and it's 69%..bring the troops home

[Aristus]

4. What if they held a war,

and nobody came?

[Pale_Rider]

5. Like all polls ...

... eventually getting moved off the front page. Check here for the results.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/voteresults.asp

Tuesday 11 November: Is it time to bring Australian troops back from Iraq?
Yes: 21205 (69%)
No: 9471 (31%)

[gasperc]

9. today's CNN online poll"Has Bush policies damged international relations?

84%yes
16% no

when I got home, the poll Wolf had on was "Has Bush done enough to honor vets? 84%yes, 16% no

go figure