Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Leave it to MSNBC: Larry Flynt on Hardball tonight

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:43 AM
Original message
Leave it to MSNBC: Larry Flynt on Hardball tonight
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 11:43 AM by Cush
to talk about the Jessica Lynch photos

get a life MSNBC
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
1. Larry Flynt makes alot more sense than
other guests that are on Hardball...(i.e., Ann Coulter).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
2. Bet the topic will be why Flynt bought them and chose not to publish them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
3. and will AnthraxAnn be defending Jessica's right to pose naked?
that should be an interesting spin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:50 AM
Response to Original message
4. Did Flynt broker a deal with Lynch
Flynt has been in possession of these photos for over a month. Lynch comes out last week and suddenly does a 180, saying that she was used by BushCo and that she wasn't really a hero. All this negative talk right before her book is due out. Why would she hurt her own book sales (which are doing badly BTW)?

Then the story of the rape? These photos show her partying in a barracks, topless. Also, reportedly, Flynt also got interviews with 2 of the soldiers she reportedly partied with.

Bottom line - I think Flynt blackmailed Lynch with publishing these photos. Lynch may be not the little angel she appears to be. Publishing the photos and interview would have hurt her more than backing down on the "hero" story.

Something to think about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. I don;t think so ...
Flynt is no angel, but one thing he does not like is smug people. I think that if Lynch went around, flaunting herself and whoring for the WH, then he'd do it. But since she's making the rounds, but intends to return to normal life, and mean it, I think he's giving her a pass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. what's Flynt's motive?
I don't follow your thinking...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. if lynch propogates the lies, he publishes...
if she comes out against the propaganda, he prevents others from publishing.

got it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. but that would take the credit away from Lynch
I'm going to continue to give credit to Lynch, until I see evidence that Flynt or anyone else forced her to do what she did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. More importantly - What's Flynt's motive for NOT publishing these pictures
He's a pornographer. He will publish pictures of anybody for a buck. Why is he holding out on the Lynch photos. He could make millions on these photos.

Publicly he states he won't publish them, because he thinks she's a good kid and she's been victimized by BushCo.

Puhleeze! I don't believe that argument at all.

Remember...the Iraqi lawyer who supposedly help save Jessica now works for Bob Livingston - they guy that Flynt helped bring down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. I think Flynt is more interested in bring the right's lies to light
than he is in publishing one women's topless photos.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. I still don't follow
Flynt is a pornographer, but he's also political. What he's doing is consistent with his politics.

It's also consistent with the Livingston story. His bringing down Livingston exposed the GOP hypocrisy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Then explain Lynch's sudden epiphany
The timing of this is important. Lynch accepted an award a while back. She's had access to the media before now. Why didn't she speak up then. Why now? Right before the book and movie - they had to know this would hurt her book sales, but she did it anyway - Why?

I think because the photo and stories would hurt her more than the reversing the "hero" story.

This is just my opinion, but the timing of all this reversing herself and the rape story really got me thinking. It didn't make sense. But if you factor in Flynt possessing photos and story, it makes sense, at least to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. ok
i don't agree at all, but I get what you're saying.

I don't think the photos would be damaging to her. No part of her story depends on her being a nun. She was just a normal kid -- 18, right?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Unknown, I have to agree with you
your arguments make a lot of sense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. You've got it all wrong. She has never 'reversed herself'
Her family denied the amsenia and gunshot wound stories fro the beginning. You will not find an interview or statement from Lynch where she claims to have gone down fighting. She broke off negotiations with NBC on the movie. The reality is that she has said very little - mainly thanks to the people who supported her and respect for the troops she served with.

I don't think the media works the way you imply - you can't just dribble out a little bit of a story - It has to be all at once, fully formed and on the best terms you can get. You see what the RW is doing to her now?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
12. Go Larry Go
:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:24 PM
Response to Original message
15. I'm glad that Flynt is not going to publish the pics..
As a liberal activist doing something like publishing the pics would make him lose credibility as a liberal activist. Everytime he would want to take up a cause the talking heads would bring up the Lynch photos.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. she probably never signed a release
And if she didn't, nobody can publish them.

Whoever "sold" them to Flynt can't sell them either, if she didn't sign a release.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Wrong
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 12:53 PM by Paragon
Technically, photos belong to the photographer, not the subject. If the photographer has a "release" (pardon the pun) from Jessica, then it's on the up-and-up.

However, the chances of that are zero, so Jessica could sue the photographer and anyone who might print the pix. Those types of lawsuits are usually settled out of court, with the magazine probably paying less to the injured party than they made on sales.

I wouldn't get that jaded about Larry, though - we have him to thank for Bob Livingston's resignation as Speaker, where he also withheld details of his "youthful indiscretions" when asked by the family.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
19. And Flynt now looks like a great guy for not publishing the pics
but he gets what he wants, through "hero" Jessica Lynch saying that BushCo is a fraud.

Voila!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC