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Wed Nov-12-03 11:43 AM
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Leave it to MSNBC: Larry Flynt on Hardball tonight |
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Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 11:43 AM by Cush
to talk about the Jessica Lynch photos
get a life MSNBC
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:44 AM
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1. Larry Flynt makes alot more sense than |
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other guests that are on Hardball...(i.e., Ann Coulter).
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:45 AM
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2. Bet the topic will be why Flynt bought them and chose not to publish them. |
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:45 AM
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3. and will AnthraxAnn be defending Jessica's right to pose naked? |
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that should be an interesting spin.
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:50 AM
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4. Did Flynt broker a deal with Lynch |
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Flynt has been in possession of these photos for over a month. Lynch comes out last week and suddenly does a 180, saying that she was used by BushCo and that she wasn't really a hero. All this negative talk right before her book is due out. Why would she hurt her own book sales (which are doing badly BTW)?
Then the story of the rape? These photos show her partying in a barracks, topless. Also, reportedly, Flynt also got interviews with 2 of the soldiers she reportedly partied with.
Bottom line - I think Flynt blackmailed Lynch with publishing these photos. Lynch may be not the little angel she appears to be. Publishing the photos and interview would have hurt her more than backing down on the "hero" story.
Something to think about.
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:53 AM
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Flynt is no angel, but one thing he does not like is smug people. I think that if Lynch went around, flaunting herself and whoring for the WH, then he'd do it. But since she's making the rounds, but intends to return to normal life, and mean it, I think he's giving her a pass.
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:54 AM
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6. what's Flynt's motive? |
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I don't follow your thinking...
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Wed Nov-12-03 11:59 AM
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7. if lynch propogates the lies, he publishes... |
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if she comes out against the propaganda, he prevents others from publishing.
got it?
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:05 PM
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9. but that would take the credit away from Lynch |
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I'm going to continue to give credit to Lynch, until I see evidence that Flynt or anyone else forced her to do what she did.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:02 PM
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8. More importantly - What's Flynt's motive for NOT publishing these pictures |
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He's a pornographer. He will publish pictures of anybody for a buck. Why is he holding out on the Lynch photos. He could make millions on these photos.
Publicly he states he won't publish them, because he thinks she's a good kid and she's been victimized by BushCo.
Puhleeze! I don't believe that argument at all.
Remember...the Iraqi lawyer who supposedly help save Jessica now works for Bob Livingston - they guy that Flynt helped bring down.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:07 PM
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10. I think Flynt is more interested in bring the right's lies to light |
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than he is in publishing one women's topless photos.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:08 PM
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Flynt is a pornographer, but he's also political. What he's doing is consistent with his politics.
It's also consistent with the Livingston story. His bringing down Livingston exposed the GOP hypocrisy.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:15 PM
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13. Then explain Lynch's sudden epiphany |
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The timing of this is important. Lynch accepted an award a while back. She's had access to the media before now. Why didn't she speak up then. Why now? Right before the book and movie - they had to know this would hurt her book sales, but she did it anyway - Why?
I think because the photo and stories would hurt her more than the reversing the "hero" story.
This is just my opinion, but the timing of all this reversing herself and the rape story really got me thinking. It didn't make sense. But if you factor in Flynt possessing photos and story, it makes sense, at least to me.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:23 PM
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i don't agree at all, but I get what you're saying.
I don't think the photos would be damaging to her. No part of her story depends on her being a nun. She was just a normal kid -- 18, right?
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:50 PM
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18. Unknown, I have to agree with you |
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your arguments make a lot of sense.
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Wed Nov-12-03 01:35 PM
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20. You've got it all wrong. She has never 'reversed herself' |
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Her family denied the amsenia and gunshot wound stories fro the beginning. You will not find an interview or statement from Lynch where she claims to have gone down fighting. She broke off negotiations with NBC on the movie. The reality is that she has said very little - mainly thanks to the people who supported her and respect for the troops she served with.
I don't think the media works the way you imply - you can't just dribble out a little bit of a story - It has to be all at once, fully formed and on the best terms you can get. You see what the RW is doing to her now?
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:08 PM
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:24 PM
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15. I'm glad that Flynt is not going to publish the pics.. |
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As a liberal activist doing something like publishing the pics would make him lose credibility as a liberal activist. Everytime he would want to take up a cause the talking heads would bring up the Lynch photos.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:43 PM
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16. she probably never signed a release |
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And if she didn't, nobody can publish them.
Whoever "sold" them to Flynt can't sell them either, if she didn't sign a release.
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Wed Nov-12-03 12:48 PM
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Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 12:53 PM by Paragon
Technically, photos belong to the photographer, not the subject. If the photographer has a "release" (pardon the pun) from Jessica, then it's on the up-and-up.
However, the chances of that are zero, so Jessica could sue the photographer and anyone who might print the pix. Those types of lawsuits are usually settled out of court, with the magazine probably paying less to the injured party than they made on sales.
I wouldn't get that jaded about Larry, though - we have him to thank for Bob Livingston's resignation as Speaker, where he also withheld details of his "youthful indiscretions" when asked by the family.
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Wed Nov-12-03 01:11 PM
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19. And Flynt now looks like a great guy for not publishing the pics |
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but he gets what he wants, through "hero" Jessica Lynch saying that BushCo is a fraud.
Voila!
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