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rmacc Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:49 PM
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How do we compete?..Rush, Hannity, Boortz, Savage, etc...
Rush, Boortz, Savage, O'Reilly, Liddy, and Hannity along with a variety of local conservative talk hosts dominate the AM dial on a daily basis in my city(Atlanta).They misinform, exaggerate, tell half truths, and outright lie to millions of people everyday. Their shows are sandwiched in between real news which helps lend more credibility to their one-sided propaganda. They all adore anything the republicans do and make light of, or smirk at any idea or statement coming from a democrat. Without any fairness or need to be honest their lies simply get repeated enough to become the defacto truth to their easily manipilated fans. If you say the sky is green everyday for 10 years at some point blue becomes green and the statement becomes true. That seems to have happened in America. They have slowly taken over the media and changed the way many people think.

My question is..How do we combat this everyday beating that democrats take?..In my opinion, the fairness in broadcasting standards that were repealed, that allowed the Rush's of the world to come alive, need to be reinstated. If we ever get any majorities in congress or have the whitehouse this needs to be a priority. The media cannot be allowed to be a gigantic propaganda tool for either party.
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RedSox02 Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:54 PM
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1. I would like a Liberal talk radio
I listen to alot of talk radio in the car, especially when I get sick of listening to music. I would really appreciate a different voice out there. I tend to get stuck listening to Hannity and Savage among others, unelss I want to tune into sports talk, where whenever the hosts do talk politics, they again take up the right side.

I don't really care to boot peopel liek Hannity off the air, that really isn't very American to me. I would rather see someone step up to the plate and challenge ClearChannel and put some porgressive voices out there.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:00 PM
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3. I think booting Hannity and his sort off the radio would be VERY American.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 04:03 PM by Cat Atomic
These are the public airwaves, after all. We've every right to demand equal access to a public resource.

If Hannity can survive with the fairness rules in place- if his rhetoric can stand up without a mute button to silence dissent- then more power to him. I can't imagine Hannity holding up any of his propaganda arguments for more than about a minute in an actual debate.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:31 PM
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6. Free Speech
I don't care for Hannity myself, very smug guy, but is booting him off the air really in keeping with the principles of free speech?

You can talk about the will of the people if you want, but the point is we have individual rights to protect us from the depredations of the community.

Bryant
Check it out -- http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:06 PM
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5. Frankly
I think liberal talk radio would be boring. I would just sit there and think, yeah, uh-hu, yep, knew that, read it on DU.

What I think would be far more interesting and more useful is a left/right debate style program that had REAL liberal co-hosts (not the Colmses of the world) and that was demanding of the facts from guests (they're on our side, you know?)

Such a show could attract conservative and liberal listerners, but it would be more educational than Rush et al, because the left (and the truth) would be more fairly represented.
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:12 PM
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9. .....
Not if they are insightful/funny. They just need to be entertaining.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:54 PM
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18. regulation
bring back the fairness doctrine..
force them to give equal time to us..

F*CK the right wing!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:56 PM
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2. The "Off" Button
I must admit, I occasional pollute my mind by listening to those creeps, but for the most part they are preaching to the converted - those that want to be lied to - it makes them feel comfy.

But Randi Rhodes rocks...

http://therandirhodesshow.com/streaming.html
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:06 PM
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4. Like this
call your local station and get Randi Rhodes syndicated:
http://therandirhodesshow.com/iwantmyrandi.html

Or ask them to pick up some of these folks: http://www.ieamericaradio.com/default.asp

We also have these guys waiting in the wings: http://anshellmedia.com/anshell_home.htm
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:55 PM
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7. do liberals even listen to talk radio in large numbers
?
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:07 PM
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8. We don't need to compete
There are more Dems in this country than their are Repigs and they do not need to be told what to believe. The RW hate-mongers are just preaching to the choir. I have never heard of anyone being "converted" by Pigboy, Weiner or any of the others. I say let them rant.......
I have one question.......I listen to Pigboy in the car once in a while just to check out what my enemy is talking about. Every call in is a young, white, male, intelligent, well-spoken and all sound alike. I have this theory. He has about 15-20 on the payroll from different areas of the country (need that bit of an accent)and those are the callers. Wonder if anyone has ever run a voice check on his show. I think we would find that Bob from Atlanta is the same as Fred from Charleston and James from San Diego is also Mark from L.A., etc. Anyone else, herem ever wonder about that??

:kick:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:20 PM
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12. I agree. Why should we have a DEM version of Their National Enquirer
mind boggling bs?

We don't need to spew, spin, twist and tell lies to gain favor, power or glory.

All we need to do is continuing telling the truth, working for the people, and working for change.

Right IS might.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:04 PM
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19. Taliban fuels the fire with bullshit
just like right wing radio. Just like Fascism/Nazism. The fire has to exist to begin with. The listeners already believe so strongly, that nothing you or I do can convert them. It just excites them.

I say let it go until they start inciting violence.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:16 PM
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21. There are more Dems than repugs....but
right wing radio and right wing television inspires
their listeners to go to the polls and vote big time.
Democrats are far less inspired and many don't vote.
Left leaning radio and television might change that,
Also there are a lot of young college students that
are joining the repug party.....if this continues the
trend says we will be the minority party in the future.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:12 PM
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10. Well first, we'd have to get lobotomized...
then find some rube...errr...talented yakker to get on there to talk up the liberal cause...but with a lobotomy, he/she'd quickly turn neo-con in about a week.
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grkda Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:12 PM
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11. Hard to get happy in 2004
Where is the leadership, direction, substance, and viability in any of these candidates? Rhetorical question in this forum, but consider the 40% of Americans that havent made a decision and ask yourself how they would answer it.

Hard to get happy or what?


Dean is falling so far to the left that he forces 50% of Americans to renew their rush limbuagh membership.

Clark, 120 days ago he was campaigning for Bush!

Gephardt could not be more uninspiring.

Kerry cant pass up any opportunity to flip on an issue or "misquote" a source.

Lieberman is missing in action (if seen, please call the DNC immediately).

Edwards is really campaigning for 2008 (Ive suggested he should make campaign signs with 2004 on one side and 2008 on the other).

Kucinich has taken a long walk on the far left wild side.

Braun, never had a chance and wont ever get one.

Sharpton, whack job (literally! expect the tawana brally issue to kick in).




Am I wrong here?


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Cat M. Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:22 PM
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14. Yes, you're wrong.
Clark never campaigned for Bush. He appeared at a republican fundraiser (as well as democratic fundraisers) and praised the team that Bush had assembled on national security. Many democrats at the time also praised Bush's choices. Rice had once done work for Gary Hart during his presidential nomination. Biden and others said voting to confirm Powell and Rumsfeld "was easy." The team assembled, including Cheney, was considered to be very knowledgeable and experienced. One doesn't often think of a foreign policy team as being extremely partisan, which in this case they seemingly are.

Either that, or they are incapable of independent thought. But Clark did not campaign for Bush nor was he registered as a republican at any time.

Funny how this is your "first" post and it's simply made to criticize all the democratic candidates running. I thought DU had a policy against this?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:23 PM
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15. Oh, please
Dean to the far left? Give me a break. Dean takes an interesting mixture of positions which add up to moderate, and you probably know that very well. I see this is your first post so I'd say the odds are good that you're a troll.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:21 PM
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13. The truth has a way of catching up to anyone.
The will fade in time, after people get tired of being spun into poverty and war.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:25 PM
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16. win at all costs
then purge

make Stalin's ghost jealous.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:28 PM
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17. Does anyone know the percentage of Democrats as opposed
to Repugs? The other day the idiot Hannity was saying that all the Democrats hated Bush. Well, I'd like to e-mail him to give him a total count of just how many million people hate Bush.
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MagicMan Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:13 PM
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20. No interest
in shutting them up. My interest is in seeing a roster of liberals to combat them. Sheldon Drobny has started AnShell Media and is supposed to launch in January to do just this.

If there is a built in audience clammoring for this programming I hope they tune in, and advertisers see the audience size and pour money into advertising.

That is how to handle the situation.

If it fails miserably and no one listens it is not the fault of Rush, Hannity, Boortz, etc... But of US, the liberals who have been demanding counterparts to listen too and claiming a massive, clammoring audience ripe for such programming.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 07:32 PM
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22. Another angle
Let the SOB's keep running their mouths and just wait for the big collapse which is sure to come with Bush and Iraq. Then sit back and say, I told your so.

Don't just do something stand there. It's a rigged game anyway.

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