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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:59 PM
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Jimmy Carter first prez to write a novel
Once again, he shows that he's one of the smartest and best ex presidents we've had. Haven't read it, but am anxious to.

It's about the Revolutionary War era south, and it's called "The Hornet's Nest."

The story follows the lives of Georgia militia leader Elijah Clarke, British commander Thomas Brown and independent frontiersman Ethan Pratt.

Set in Georgia, Florida and the Carolinas, the novel paints a picture of deadly battlegrounds, changing allegiances, Indian massacres, political dissent and undecided colonists...

Mr Carter apparently read more than 35 books on the war in preparation, and spent seven years writing The Hornet's Nest.

He is also said to have consulted several professors to learn about creative writing, and painted the book jacket himself.

"Historians will find the book to be quite accurate, as far as what actually happened," he said.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3263253.stm
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:05 PM
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1. I think bush* has a book too...called the 'Stupid, Stupid Catipillar'
I think it's about bush* and the many legs of the president that moves his agenda along? since a catipillar has such a small brain but many legs that move its body along...I think it will be a best seller?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:18 PM
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4. "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" is not a bad book
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 05:33 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
.........................

I've enjoyed it with my daughter a few times. "From Head to Toe" is very enjoyable too. Eric Carle is quite good. I highly recommend him.
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dkamin Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:18 PM
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19. this was
one of the funniest posts i've seen in a long time. dunno why, but i'm laughing very hard right now. thanks patdem.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:11 PM
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2. Well, There Was at Least One VICE-President Who Wrote a Novel
Spiro Agnew. Seriously. Called "The Canfield Decision."

And with Agnew's way with words, you can imagine the results.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:15 PM
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3. Actually
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 05:25 PM by Ficus
speaking of pols who wrote books, Newt Gingrich wrote a novel about an alternate history where Germany is victorious in WWII. He never finished the series, actually only finished the first book. I for some reason can't even remember what it was called. I tend to read alternate history books, but skipped Newts, but part of me wants to read it just because.

Anyone know the title?
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displacedyankeedem Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:22 PM
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6. Gingrich's Book Is Called....
1945, it's badly written. A MUCH better(and frightening) written alternate history is Thomas Harris's Fatherland.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:23 PM
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7. I read Fatherland
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 05:24 PM by Ficus
Great book. Harry Turtledove is great at alt. history if anyone else reads that sort of thing as well.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:28 PM
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10. Turtledove is indeed great at alt history.
I've read most of his WWII series and want to read his Civil War series.

I just finished his book about Shakespeare and Queen Elizabeth I, in which England does not defeat the Spanish Armada and England is ruled by the Inquisition.

Have you read his The Toxic Spell Dump???? environmental polution in a US ruled by magic.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:34 PM
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13. sounds interesting
Check out the Great War: American Front series. I liked it a lot. CSA wins the civil war and it picks up at trench warfare in northern Virgina, Kentucky, and in the West.

I just finished his book about Shakespeare and Queen Elizabeth I, in which England does not defeat the Spanish Armada and England is ruled by the Inquisition.

I gotta check that one out. It looks interesting.

Have you read his The Toxic Spell Dump???? environmental polution in a US ruled by magic.

Is there a Wizard appointed by a magic Bush who runs the EPA in that book?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:07 PM
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18. Have you read "A Different Flesh"?
That wasn't so well written, but got me thinking about the world.

I thought the Civil War series was one of his weaker works. To me he was playing around with his social ideas more than writing alternative history. To me it was too easy to figure out, and Turtledove is at his best when he surprises.

PS - read a short story recently called "Southern Strategy." That was a great 20 pages of alternative history.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:02 PM
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15. I love alternative histories
Fatherland was great.

Newt's first book, 1945 was bad.

However, if you like the Civil War, his latest alternative history book, "Gettysburg" is a wonderful read.

If you like alternative histories in general, I think Harry Turtledove is by far the best. Professor of Byzantine History. How cool is that?

Start with "Guns of the South" if you'd like to try one and see if you life alternative histories.

Then try his WWII series and see what you think of the Fleetlord, Avtar.

I didn't like his Civil War series as much.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:24 PM
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8. Lew Wallace wrote Ben Hur
Wallace was a military leader on the Union side in the Civil War, was known as 'the savior of Cincinnati,' and was on the court martial court of the commander of Andersonville prison.

He was a governor of New Mexico territory and a US minister to Turkey.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:19 PM
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5. Bush's memoirs will be the first shelved in the Fiction stacks
He can't put the truth in there. He just can't.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:25 PM
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9. Didn't JFK write a book
"Profiles in Courage"??
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:30 PM
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11. Carter wrote a NOVEL
JFK's work (which was actually written by Ted Sorenson) was a collection of non-fiction essays.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:41 PM
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14. Dammit, ZombyWoof, you beat me to the Sorenson!
Why did you have to come back? >JOKE!< (I'm really glad you are here)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:25 PM
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22. hehe
Thanks, I think. ;-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:04 PM
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17. hey look, it's
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:25 PM
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21. LOLOL!
Ya know, I told you to lay off the :smoke:, lol. ;-)
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:31 PM
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12. We're talking
fiction novels. And that was written when he was in the Senate.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:03 PM
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16. Herbert Hoover
the candidate with the best resume of anyone to ever run for president wrote at least five books, one of them on fishing techniques.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:24 PM
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20. we're talking FICTION
Novels. Fiction. Cracking me up that some of you are having trouble grasping the original post. ;-) But yeah, many presidents and ex-presidents have been published - Grant wrote the best memoirs of any ex, mainly because of his Civil War experience, not because of his corrupted and lackluster presidency.

Theodore Roosevelt wrote lots of naturist works. Hoover wrote about engineering, and so on... most ex-presidents wrote memoirs (including Clinton, whose work should be out in a few years).

Carter also was the first president to write and publish a book of poetry, btw.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:19 PM
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23. jimmy
ex-presidents should do good work. jimmy carter is a great man doing great work for humanity. how about george mitchell? clinton too. shrub sr. works for carlyle. ronnie sold his face. nixon? do you imagine tom delay doing great civic work upon retiring?
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