NBC Poll: Bush at 51% (Headline: Bush Stops the Bleeding)

[phillybri]

Nov. 12 — President Bush’s approval ratings are taking a turn for the better, boosted by a recovering economy that has driven unemployment claims to the lowest point of his presidency, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

THE POLL of 1,003 adults by Hart/Teeter Associates of Washington found Bush’s overall job approval rating at 51 percent. That was essentially unchanged from the same poll in September, indicating that the White House is succeeding in stopping a precipitous fall in the president’s support from a near-record high of 88 percent one year ago.
The survey results suggested that Bush’s support has been shored up almost exclusively on the foundation of the economic recovery. Favorable assessments of the president’s management of the economy spiked from 44 percent two months ago to 51 percent this month, an increase more than double the poll’s margin of sampling error of 3.1 percentage points.

[Skittles]

1. he stopped the bleeding, did he?

better check that bandage:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=3814236

[zinsky]

2. Some People Are So Damn Shallow

A hiccup in the economy and these poorly informed people think everything is rosy. How sad.

Two points:

(1) Alan Greenspan has had the pedal to the metal for three years now and it has barely helped. He had his foot on the brake for eight years with Clinton and the economy was still vibrant. When will people realize that "trickle down economics" is the most failed, discredited economic theory in history?!

(2) There is healthy growth and there is cancerous growth. I would argue the "growth" we are temporarily seeing in the economy is cancerous and unsustainable, since the Bushies are essentially "eating the seed corn" and ensuring a bleak future for all Americans.

[Flaming Meaux]

9. Well put.

Wait until after the holiday season. My prediction is we're in for another lackluster Christmas shopping season.

With as much as the Bushies have spent on 'economic stimulus' during his 'presidency,' you'd think the economy would be plowing full speed ahead. A baloney sandwich would be about as effective at economic policy as this idiot.

[1songbird]

18. Extremely well put

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Great post! Says it all in a few short sentences...

...and I would add that Greenspan started raising interest rates at the beginning of 2000 to combat inflationary tendencies that no other economist was seeing. He did not start lowering interest rates again until January 2001 after the Bushies had completed their bloodless coup. By that time the damage to the economy was such that it couldn't be immediately revived.

Coupled with Greenspan's raising of the interest rates in early 2000, Big Oil began to increase gasoline and heating oil prices during the summer of 2000. That had the effect of a double-whammy anchor on the growing Clinton economy, and the current recession was born in late 2000.

When you add in the extremely damaging economic effects of the elimination of the Federal programs that augmented state programs, the 9/11 attacks, and the tax cuts for the wealthy, you have a complete formula for disaster.

Thanks to the nearly $1 billion in program cuts to the states, each individual state has been forced to cut programs in turn. Guess which programs have been cut first? That's correct...education and social services, programs that we as a nation can ill-afford to see cut at all.

But no, the Bushies weren't done. Now we have the ongoing economic drag of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, wars for which the Bushies have absolutely no exit strategy.

In addition to so-called blue collar manufacturing jobs being sent overseas, now we're seeing white collar information technology jobs disappear into the sunset and land in India.

Bleak picture? Stand by...it's going to get a lot worse.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi zinsky!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Spazito]

3. That is one of the most disgusting headlines given that soldiers....

are bleeding in Iraq! I am sooooo glad that Bush has stopped HIS bleeding (not that I believe it) but for NBC to use that particular headline is incredibly insensitive, imo.

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[Ripley]

5. How pleasant of you.

To like a good economy over a quagmire that will empty the Treasury over the next 5-10 years.

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[Ripley]

8. So you believe more tax cuts and perpetual war

are actually good for the Federal Government's budget? How will it pay for anything else? How long will it be before someone has to raise taxes again?

[Capt_Nemo]

12. Famous last words!

is it you Leonid Brezhnev? :evilgrin:

[HFishbine]

6. A lot of people

are one-issue voters. At least we can rest easy knowing that if the economy is still bad, you'll be voting democratic.

[berner59]

11. Iraq will take over...

The economy will not improve enough to change the average american life so votes will come from empty pockets but as this war continues to worsen, his credibilty will be shot to the point of unspinable...

I sense a state of panic over Iraq right now in the WH...

[Zero Gravitas]

16. Economy = JOBS

for 90% of the people. Only a few care about corporate bottom lines and statisitcs about "productivity". Bush has to hope that the 3,000,000 jobs that have disspaeared since he was appointed "President" come back in the next year. And guess what? all those jobs that his corporate buddies have exported to China and Russia and India aren't coming back no matter how high the Dow goes and no matter how low wages & benefits go.

[Ripley]

19. Exactly. And ask "regular folks" how much they'll receive

in dividend or capital gains tax changes, or by the repeal of the estate tax? They know the "anti-tax" mantra, but they can't explain why they don't actually get any relief from most of the tax cuts. Hey moran, it's because you don't have any money and you don't have it socked away in tax shelters!!

[59millionmorons]

10. I wish NBC would actually do a poll with atleast likely voters

This adult crap just doesnt work when only 44% of adults vote to begin with. To me this poll is worthless. This is why there is such a difference from head to head match ups in polls of just adults. The closest Dem in a head to head matchup is Clark at I believe 49-37. Polls that ask likely voters the head to head matchups are within 5% for all the candidates. Likely voters pay more attention than just your average adult.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Dead Cat Bounce

I always view government economic "news" with extreme scepticism...especially when it's spun by this regime. Yes, the markets are performing better and after 3 years of non-stop bad news, the economy is better. Now that's not better than 2000 or 2001, it's just better than what it was earlier in 2003.

For those out of jobs or having felt the economic bite of these recent years, this only means that bite is a little less now than what it was...but it still bites nonetheless and will continue to do so.

This upturn is pure paperwork. I just reviewed finances and I am once again seeing strong earnings on investments. That's wonderful, but that does NOTHING for the economy. This isn't money I'm spending or planing to. This regime's lies about things getting better should be qualified: For those with money, the outlook is very good...hopefully you've gotten in low and now will ride while the rest (those without money) can go hang.

I always find it interesting how really thin skinned Repugnicans are when the word "class warefare" is mentioned, since they are waging it on the majority with a vengence. And the sheeple will be fed that this is a good thing that means we must re-elect this un-elected regime.

[glarius]

14. Shouldn't the "would not vote for him again" result be the one that is

emphasized???...I keep seeing polls saying for example: 52% approval...63% say they would not vote for him again...These figures are not from any specific pole but the point I'm making is that these polls show the ALL IMPORTANT information, in my opinion...They may say they think he's doing alright but THEY WON'T VOTE HIM IN AGAIN!....Why is this statistic not being featured????

[Zero Gravitas]

15. G.E. = Defence Contractor

NBC is just a propaganda outlet for G.E. and it's interests in perpetuating the "military-industrial complex". OF course they are going to whore for *.

[htuttle]

17. Bah, they tried this with the Gallup poll last month

Wasn't true, and all the other polls showed something quite different.

Feh.

[ProfessorGAC]

22. The Average of the Big 5 . . .

. . .shows no statistical change for the last 4 weeks. So the bleeding hasn't stopped, the wound just isn't getting any more infected.

(I use the 5 largest polling service numbers. Zogby, Gallup, Harris, ARG, ORC, and do a statistically weighted average based upon differences in sample size and stratification techniques.)

So, the headline is baloney.
The Professor