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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:22 PM
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Elad is for sale
Post from Elad here:

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=402215&mesg_id=402215

Me. Yes, I am up for sale, so to speak. If DU makes it's goal, I will be able to quit my full-time dayjob, which keeps me highly distracted from DU, and concentrate all of my energy on improving DU.

As the techie/programmer, you may be unaware what having a full-time elad means to you as a user of DU. Allow me to explain.

When I first came to DU I came as a regular poster looking for an anti-Bush site. I posted for a couple months, and eventually it came up that DU didn't have a programmer and there were some things that needed to be programmed. Being unemployed at the time, I happily volunteered. The initial couple of projects grew and grew, and soon became a constant flow of new features, bug fixing, and other projects. I worked for DU for free, volunteering, for about a year.

After that first year, DU had grown enough that Skinner was able to start sending me a small paycheck. By this point in time, DU had become a full-time job for me. During that first year while I was unemployed, I easily spent 70 or so hours a week, if not more, working on DU in some fashion or another, either programming or doing administrative duties. About the time Skinner started paying me part-time, I finally found a job and started working a dayjob full-time.

This has been the situation now for the past 1 1/2 years or so. I work 32 - 40 hours a week at my dayjob, and then come home and spend another 30 - 50 hours a week on DU. I've been doing this for a long time now, for only a part-time salary from DU, because I believe in DU and I want to see it succeed.

I (and the other admins, for that matter) don't post terribly frequently on the public boards, so you may not know what's going on behind the scenes or how much time, energy and work we actually put into DU on a daily basis. It may seem like we're absent a lot, but we're here everyday, all 3 of us, reading threads, dealing with situations that come up, brainstorming ideas, working on technical issues, and helping the moderators.

I can't remember the last full-day that I went without checking in on DU at least once. DU has become our lives, for better or for worse. Weekends? We don't have weekends. Sure, the office may be empty on the weekends, and we may spend less time on DU than during the weekdays, but we're still here, every weekend, checking in, making sure things are running smoothly, and dealing with any problems.

The job can be extraordinarily stressful, as well. We have to constantly field complaints telling us how crappy our website is and how biased we are towards one side or another. We have to make very tough decisions and then deal with the consequences. We're called names and belittled constantly, and not just by conservatives in the form of hatemail, but also often from people who are supposed to be on our side and are upset about something or another. Skinner, who has to deal with most of these problems, I tell ya what, sometimes I don't know how he does it. The man has the patience of a saint. I would have thrown my computer out the window months ago, screamed "SCREW IT ALL!!" and ran off to be a hermit in the mountains somewhere if I had to deal with half the BS he puts up with.

But anyway, back to what I was getting at... if DU makes its goal this fund drive, Skinner will finally be able to hire me full-time. What does it matter to you? Well let me tell you.

Ever get frustrated if the site's running slow? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, I'll be able to babysit the servers all-day everyday, which means I can start to identify bottlenecks in our code and improve the speed. The process takes a lot of time and there's simply no way I can gather enough data to do this when I have to work a dayjob, since I'm at work during the peak-hours when things are busy and the site slows down.

Ever get annoyed with a bug in the software and wish it'd be fixed cuz it always seems to hit ya at the most inopportune time? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, bugs will be fixed much more quickly.

Ever have a cool idea for a new feature and wish you'd be able to see it on DU? If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, new features will be coming out much, much more often.

If I'm able to concentrate on DU full-time, not only will I be able to improve how DU runs from the technical end, fix more bugs, and add more features, but there are millions of tiny things that will get done to improve the site as well. I'll have time to add new smilies, I'll have time to finish old projects like the "Member since" date, I'll have more time to help on the administrative end and take some of the workload off of Skinner and EarlG, I'll have more time to do dozens of other little things that have been piling up in my todo list.

And all this will lead to a better DU for everyone, because then all 3 admins will be able to spend more time coming up with new ideas for the website and how we can really make an impact in 2004. Ever since DU was started, we've been building up to this: the 2004 election. Do you really want distracted, stressed out, burned out admins with piles of half-finished projects running the site this year?

None of us are getting rich off of DU. In fact, if you consider the loss of insurance and other benefits I'll take if I work for DU full-time, it could in actuality turn out to be a sorta paycut for me. And for a full-time programmer, I'm offering myself to DU at a bargain-basement price compared to the industry standard.

But if DU doesn't make its goal, I have to keep my dayjob, and much of this won't be possible. DU, the admins, and by extension ALL of you, will be that much worse off going into an election year. So please, take the time to donate. You know DU provides you with a unique service you can't find anywhere else on the internet, and if you want DU to continue to grow, evolve and become a real force that can actually make a difference in the election next year, then send in some money, it doesn't matter how much, whatever you can afford.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:30 PM
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1. I thought sex threads were banned in the Lounge.
:shrug:
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:34 PM
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2. Don't worry honey
we'll pull through for you :-)
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:47 PM
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3. I can relate 100% to what he's saying
I used to run a forum about as busy as this one is, but it was much, much more volatile than anything seen here. It was a debate forum on Gender Issues. Basically, it was inhabited mostly by very angry men's rights activists and very radical feminists. There were a few people taking on the role of peacemakers. The only way I could manage the forum was to have the policy of no censorship whatsoever beyond threats and spamming/flooding. As volatile, nasty, hateful and shocking as the place was...it turned out to be very therapeutic for most of the members. I ended up turning the helm over to a previously self-labelled misogynist who had discovered that all he needed to get over those negative feelings towards women was to be able to get his frsutrations out of his system. Last I talked to him he and those same radical feminists were exchanging friendly e-mails and got along just fine. When I first "met" the guy he made some very violent and disgusting posts. Most of the radical feminists had become much more sympathetic to the feelings of the men's rights guys and the forum became pretty much a place to joke around, have light conversation and make friends. Bizarre as it began, it turned out to be great therapy for some very bitter and angry people. Needless to say, I got an awful lot of hate mail, complaints and whining from people who didn't like the lack of censorship. And some members felt they deserved special treatment over the others and would attack me all over the forum. After a year I got burnt out from it and decided to have an actual social life and get away from all the negativity for awhile. Elad is right that Skinner has a lot of patience. If he didn't this site would be long gone. Members should appreciate all the work a site like this takes. I wish I had the spare money to make a contribution myself, but unfortunately I don't right now. Anyone who can spare a little should try to donate. Just the bandwidth alone must cost a fortune.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:34 PM
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11. Fascinating story, Karaoke.
I think you really did make the world a better place by letting these folks express themselves.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:12 PM
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17. I think so too.
This is why I have tried to play devil's advocate over the whole Confederate flag thing. Some people embrace the thing more out of frustration than racism. That frustration comes from white guys feeling as if they have been made the scapegoat for all things evil in society. Until people let go of political correctness enough to allow people to express those negative emotions, they aren't going to get them out of their system and nothing will change. Dialogue, however volatile and painful it might be, is going to have to take place if things are ever to get better.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:55 PM
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4. Yeah, I'll give him all the money he wants
but he has to put on a g-string, and dance on top of my desk :D
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:28 PM
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10. I will buy him a new shirt!
:D

Great job elad, in all seriousness. I not only think this is the best site on the web in content, but it just looks damn good too. Easy to use, plenty of great features. It has it all! :thumbsup:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:01 PM
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5. Thanks for all you do
I had no idea how much work went into making this website such a great success. It's truly appreciated and I was happy to donate.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:18 PM
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6. KICK!!!
:KICK:
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:29 PM
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7. Kick for elad
Dance boy, dance. :evilgrin:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:32 PM
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8. I'm in, but only if he struts down the catwalk and does a little twirl.
;-) I put some money in the hat. :hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:23 PM
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9. another kick for elad!
:kick:
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kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:37 PM
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12. DU can make extra money...
Elad's Beefcake 2004 Wall Calendar!!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:41 PM
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13. he is a bit of a cutie pie, no?
:7
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:45 PM
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14. Let's not let anyone else get him......fork over the cash, folks!
Just imagine how super DU will be with Elad full-time, 24 hours a day working for us! :D

DemEx
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:53 PM
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15. Just waiting for my unemployment check
I'll make the cut.

(sorry, Elfwitch)
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:09 PM
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16. how much for a table dance?
sho shexshy
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:13 PM
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18. I donated to keep Elad as our own private techie! He is....
the best!!!!

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 10:24 PM
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19. Having been in a negative cash flow mode for the past 5 years
I can feel the pain of these heros, Skinner, etc. I am 280 K in the hole and slowly climbing out due to some recent good fortune.

Now I have donated a small sum and soon will do more.

Next year, in about 2 1/2 months or so, I will be able to Host a small Luau for the DU Gang who wish to make the trip. All proceeds will go towards the DU Warchest. The expenses will be minimal, food, music, hula dancers, booze, etc.

We will be able to finally meet and have a sushi or two? Perhaps. I am serious about this. PM me for for some discussion. This means anyone here who wishes fun in the sun and talk all night. :o)

Come, we eat, drink, sing, laugh, plot.

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