Are the Bushitas looking for an early exit prior to the election?

[doubles]

Just saw a report on CNN, they are now hoping to hand over power to the Iraqis sooner and beg for international support from the once "debating society", the UN. It seems they want to pull troops out as well.

How can they do that, would they pull out of Baghdad, but maintain a presence around the oil fields?

[kyrasdad]

1. thay can't

maybe they decided to take the losses and run... chickenhawks are usually chickenshits

[leftofthedial]

2. there are no losses for them

They have made money had over fist

It's only the American and coalition soldiers, Iraqi civilians and American taxpayers who have losses.

[BurtWorm]

3. I think they are going to make it top priority.

Not because the people are tired of Americans dying for Halliburton, but because angry people don't give you enough numbers to make another credible grab of the election. Rumsfeld wants to stick US soldiers out in the boonies and only fly them in when things get really bad. Right now they are probably hard at work making a schedule to subtract troops from the cities and send enough home to shut at least some of the people up.

[dbt]

4. KICK!

!

[snippy]

5. Of course. It is ironic that a war launched for Bush's political benefit

may be ended for Bush's political benefit. Democrats should point this out.

[gasperc]

6. dump it in the UN's lap...that's what they are trying to do

and when things goes sour, blame the UN for screwing things up. That's the game plan, the EU knows it and is hesitating on supporting and/or taking over operations in Iraq.

[HFishbine]

7. Probably

They will probably wait to see what the outcome of the elections are. If some fundy sect wins a majority, the US will stay right where they are and use military might to keep the new government in line. They'll undertake a course of propaganda, subversion and uncooperation to try to affect the next election.

If the elections offer a reasonable hope that US interests will be maintained (yeah, okay, but it's a possibility), the U.S. will withdraw from everyday-policing and hunker down in military bases. Either way, we aren't leaving any time soon.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. Rummy just said that we'll be in Iraq "as long as it takes."

And that it may take "as long" as 2 years. :wtf:


Do these people even talk to each other?

[0007]

9. Does that mean those special contracts to those special contractors....

will be poo pooed? Or will Ahmed Chalabi be trusted to run Cheney's business. Or will junior bring our intelligent and trusted friend, Mr. Chalabi to United States of America for protection from those salvage, uncouth,ingrates called Iraqis?

Or are the troops gonna sneak around and slither up and down like Dick Cheney?

[catmandu57]

10. We know how well these idiots plan

I mean afterall, the Iraqi people were supposed to greet us as liberators, throwing flowers and virgins at the troops.
These idiots could plan their way out of a paper bag, we're going to be there for a long, long time. The real trouble starts as soon as we get thrown out of the country, civil war, religious war, resource control war, it's all leading to big trouble.

[Donna Zen]

11. Yes and Yes

This war has become too hot for junior, and in this White House, politics trumps everything. Josh Marshall suspected that this might be the case a few weeks ago when high level meetings were taking place.

While the vast majority of posters on this board would agree that the road to war was in the wrong direction for our country, the consequences of a hasty pull out go beyond the loss of face for America. The upheaval in the Arab region and the on going violence in the ME will be adversely affected by a policy based on the dummy's election, rather than on long term goals resulting in a more peaceful world. Not that I think the junta gives a f**k about anything beyond the retention of power. But on the day when junior's rangers run for their political lives, we should all pause for a moment of silence to lament the passing of what was once an America that actually stood for something. This poster would never suggest that the business of my country was a study in altruism, but at least there was hope.

Clark has given him a "roadmap" out of this mess. Although it has been but a week, junior sets his sights on one of the points Clark made: a quick turn over of Iraq to Iraq. Nevertheless, ignoring the supporting parts of Clark's plan will doom the region, and because of our deep connections to the area, the rest of us. Notice that the junta has not suggested turning over the economy to the Iraqis, only the political structure. Also, they are not suggesting a body of international advisors to aid the emerging Iraqi political body.

No, just cut and run...but hold on to those oil contracts. Always more blood for oil.

[neebob]

12. I'd be mighty surprised

if they actually do intend to turn it over and leave, as opposed to controlling the oil and building permanent military bases. I think they're just trying to crush the insurgency and quiet their critics here at home.