If Bush stood on the White House steps and confessed--

[skjpm]

to not only knowing, but planning 911, and then laughing maniacally--no one would care. We keep on assuming that if we expose Bush that the country will wake up. But they don't care. They don't care. They don't care. 45% would still support him, and would come up with some thing like "911 was necessary to stop terrorism. Those 3000 died in the name of freedom. Bush's strategy was brilliant--he brought the world's attention to the terrorist threat and now the world is safer. Let's sing in honor of the 3000 who gave their lives for Bush's brilliant plan."

[SammyWinstonJack]

1. Sadly, what you said is probably true.

:-(

[11 Bravo]

2. Thanks for waiting until after noon to post this.

If I had read it this morning it would have ruined my day.

[LittleApple81]

3. Depressing but true. n/t

[Roses_R_Red]

4. This is the kind of statement

That drives away moderates.

[LittleApple81]

5. Why? n/t

[info being]

8. do you refute it?

or just find it distastefull?

[tom_paine]

12. And yet the truth is the truth, isn;t it?

And this truth is only midly exaggerated. From going AWOL during Vietnam to demonstrable vote fraud to lying the nation into war to the collusional no-bid contracts...any one of which would have had Clinton in an orange jumpsuit (and rightfully so) ...it is quite easy to envision this scenario coming off exactly as it is.

As I am fond of saying, with their Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media and the parasitized Corporate TV Pravda that dances to their tune, there is no truth so pristine, so factually demonstrable, that it couldn't be obfuscated, and conversely there is no lie that couldn't be laundered, sanitized, and turned into "conventional wisdom".

The whole lying infrastructure, which consists of much more than I have laid out, which I call Goebbels v2.0 (much improved from v1.0, which itself was quite effective), is the most powerful Proganda Machine the Human Race has ever seen, empowered as it it with 60 years of progress in psychology, marketing, advertising and public relations.

Democrats have moderated their replies out of just such fear for so long and where has it gottewn all of us? Entrapped in the equivalent of the Matrix. And the assertion that Bush could appear on the White House steps and admit everything and get away with it isn't much of a stretch, after all I've seen.

"Our Leader has had a breakdown. Not in his right mind. He has reached this state of exhaustion nobly serving the Amerikan People. Can you believe those DemonRATS (NOTE: yes, Hitler called the Jews, RATS, too, and that's the truth) are trying to take advantage of this breakdown? How can you belive our Leader would do such a thing. He had to be out of his mind."

Repeat 24/7 along the netire Right-Wing Sub-Media and Corporate TV Pravda infrastructure for a wekk, stall an invstigation...down the Memory Hole it goes.

And I'm a moderate, but I know Totalitarinism when I see it.

[tom_paine]

6. I have long ago come to this conclusion

It is not natural in a Free Nation, but then Imperial Amerika is no longer technically free, anyway.

This has been cultivated (now in retrospect it's very clear) by a concerted strategy of propaganda that I like to call Goebbels v2.0. It includes many aspects from the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media and the parasitization of the Formerly Free Press even down to the smaller Rovian Dirty Trciks such as the lying Bushevik e-mails that are so routinely circulated, often attributed to people who didn't write them or to people who simply don't exist.

The Teflon of Ronnie Raygun was a mere "test run" and now that this Lying' Shield protects Emperor Bunnypants*, it is grotesque and Orwellian, completely out of sync with what you what expect from a Free Nation.

But, as I said, Imperial Amerika is not free, although we at the bottom can still live lives (for however long it lasts) that superficially resemble our lives during the Old American Republic.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. Yes, because people hate to be proven wrong..they will try and

find any way to spin it into the right thing to do.

[skjpm]

10. maybe if Bush strangled a cat--

while he was confessing, we could expect a lowering of his approval rating by 2 pts. But a lot of people would start boycotting cats and cat-related items, singing songs like Year of the Unidentified Mammal and seeing plays like Terrorist Creature on a Hot Tin Roof while eating freedom fries, of course.

[info being]

9. I think you nailed it

If Iraq hasn't changed everyone's thinking, why would this?

[louis-t]

11. Completely true

He could say he did it just to get re-elected. He could say he knew everything about Iraq was a lie, he just wanted the oil and to give his and Cheney's friends a lot of money. He could say he knows global warming is a fact and doesn't intend to do anything about it, and Ashcroft really is dismantling the Constitution for his own psychotic reasons, and he knew the air around the WTC was poisonous and purposely lied about it. He could say he intends to declare marshall law at the end of his term to hold on to power. The Right would spin that into 'what a hero''what a patriot''saved the world''climbed Mt Everest''singlehandedly wiped out communism'-oh, wait that was Reagan. 'singlehandedly wiped out terrorism'....

[banana republican]

19. As if once

isn't enough. He could have his friends fly another airplane in to another target about the middle of next year... Just to prove his point that the terrorists are a "real threat"

[Nadienne]

13. As Hitler has said:

"The great mass of people...will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one."

[JackRiddler]

14. Okay, ace, you convinced me...

it's not like I think this scenario is impossible, either.

You have me on board. Americans really are this bad. PEOPLE really are this bad. Why should I think I'm better?

Therefore I'm going to do the only logical thing and join the bastards. From now on, I shall kiss ass to corporate reality and do my best to get ahead, by trampling on others as necessary. I'll join the clubs and smile the smiles and fill out all the forms, and not bother with any politics except to pretend when called on that I have whatever the prevailing opinion may be.

Did I get your message okay?

[Nadienne]

15. Does anyone else wonder

What else he might have caused, let happen, or whatever in the name of profits for his buddies and personal gain?

[Malva Zebrina]

16. I'm wondering

why. What is there missing in the minds of those who would so blithly follow this man to the point of total surrender of all their cognitive functions? I can plainly see the evil , the lies, the Jesus propaganda (those haloed pictures--the obvious blatant propagandist photos, day after day) and the use of religion as a political tool, the lies by, not only this incompetant ass, but of all of those around him-and it turns my stomach to think we have a man in the White House as evil as this-if I, just a common man,(woman) can see it, how is it that others, presumable more educated, cannot? Or, if they can, why is it that , like barbarians, they continue to follow like lemmings, or continue to lie over and over like psychopaths? I just do not understand how and why. :shrug:

[Nadienne]

17. don't know

but you notice all the hate they spread? Some people will look for any excuse to be angry, to be violent. "Righteous anger" and all that...

If only there was a way for them to kill themselves off without killing us off, too...

[Sparkle]

18. It's because they hated Clinton so much.

Their hate for him boiled over and turned into fake love for a weak and pathetic man by the name of Bush*.

[ElementaryPenguin]

20. True. But let * say he is converting to a liberal Democrat - and will be

Torn from limb to limb - and hung on meathook ala Mussolini!!

[Walt Starr]

21. But it would all come to a head and he would be reviled if

after doing so, a mechanical DU boxing glove punched him in his chimp face.

[MoonRiver]

22. I do not believe that.

Maybe the media wouldn't care, and we'd never know about all the outraged citizens, but no way would Americans not be up in arms against His Lowness. Heck, about half already are and he hasn't even confessed.

:mad:

[Scott Lee]

23. Conservatives are married to their beliefs

And one deeply cherished belief in them is that they are always right.

Therefore, when facing an obvious and agregious wrong, as a conservative you are left with no choice but to turn that WRONG into a RIGHT.

This is what basically sets the conservative (especially neocon republican) apart from the liberal thought process. Progressives and liberals tend to be open to new information that may require saying they were wrong, or that they may have to change their minds.

One of my long passed Uncles had a great phrase to explain this. He was describing my Archie Bunker like grandfather:

"Well, there goes Clarence again. When he's right, he's right; and when he's wrong, he's right."

[KansDem]

24. I don't know...

"Maniacal laughter" could turn a lot of people off. However, if he looked directly into the camera and, with a glimmer of moisture in his eyes, spoke softly and said something like:

"Yes, my fellow Americans, I planned 9/11. But I had to, in order to wake the "fighting patriotism" I believe resides inside all Americans; "fighting patriotism" that has laid dormant since that immoral miscreant Bill Clinton became President; "fighting patriotism" that I believe, and I'm sure you do too, is necessary to put an end...a full and complete end...to global terrorism.

Besides, have you noticed the price of gas lately??? (followed by "maniacal laughter)