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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:09 PM
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Issues you are willing to budge on in order to get Bush Out...
Wondering, because, as Clark is my favorite candidate to beat Bush, Kucinich is my favorite candidate overall. America is just not ready for him. Which is a shame. I think Kucinich will be very important at motivating the foot soldiers of the dems. He can speak to the base like nobody else I've heard.

Anyway, I am wondering, what, if any positions are you willing to make concessions on in order to nominate the candidate most likely to beat Bush.

Clark has disappointed me with his stupid view on 'flag burning', but, I have to decide where my priorities are. So here are the issues that I can budge on (even though I do have strong positions on them):

- Gun Control
- Flag Burning
- Gay 'Marriage'
- Free Trade
- Affirmative Action

things I can NOT budge on:

- Military philosophy (preemption doctrine)
- International engagement and respect of the U.N.
- Environmental Concerns (ANWR)
- Civil Rights / Liberties
- Choice
- Prayer in schools


I'm sure there's more - I just wanted to get a dialogue started on this.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:12 PM
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1. ok
Guns

Abortion

We take those two away from the repukes and they got nuthin left.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:18 PM
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5. That's true
These two issues are the reason they win the South almost every election.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:15 PM
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2. I agree with your NOT BUDGE list...The other things are very
important and if the country starts going in the right(should say left)way these on your other list will eventually be taken care of.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:16 PM
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3. From me this time
Edited on Fri Nov-14-03 04:17 PM by La_Serpiente
Things that the candidate must do

Faith Based Initiatives must go
Gays in the Military must be allowed
We must have Affirmative Action
THE ENVIRONMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT
The candidate MUST engage in Multi-lateralism
Rollback the FCC guidelines

things I would be alright with.

Not repealing ALL of the Tax Cuts
Gay Marriage
Remaining in the WTO and NAFTA (but it must be reformed to put humans first instead of multi-nationals)



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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:39 PM
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11. Here here
I second that list
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:17 PM
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4. Sorry. I am ABB (except...prayers for it not being Lieberman).n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:32 PM
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8. Likewise I am ABB - but the not budge list is fine except "prayer" needs
some definition - as in no school sponsored prayer. I am not about to tell a kid that they can't pray. Indeed in NY City Muslim kids get the equivalent of a bathroom pass so as to go somewhere they do not disturb non-Muslims as they pray for 5 minutes - and I find no problem with that. And I know I said a prayer before every test! :-)

NOT budge:

- Military philosophy (preemption doctrine)
- International engagement and respect of the U.N.
- Environmental Concerns (ANWR)
- Civil Rights / Liberties
- Choice
- Prayer in schools
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:24 PM
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6. Won't budge on
Choice
Environment
stop US imperialism
separation of church and state

----
will tolerate:
no flag burning issue because it will never come up.
NAFTA-WTO - fixing, but not abolishing it is okay
universal heathcare....but we need a stepping stone to that end.
gay marriage as long as civil unions are encouraged and gay rights protected
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:31 PM
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7. Long term Short term
I think distinctions between long-term goals can be made. I would give up on guns and aborton in the short run. ENVIRONMENT is apical in the long run.
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:37 PM
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9. i'll budge on voting in a two-headed turtle if it means shrub's ouster
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:38 PM
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10. I would vote for the John Wayne Gacy / Charles Manson ticket
if it would get * out of the People's House. I don't mean to sound craven, but this time around, it's all negotiable for me. We must defeat Bush, even if it means voting for a candidate we might otherwise loathe. That's my two cents.

Whoever gets the Democratic nomination, that's who I'm voting for. Period.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:42 PM
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12. I Agree 100%
that's totally where I'm at.

Fortunately, we don't have to worry too much about any of the non-budge issues popping up. Lieberman's the only supporter of preemptive war, and even then he's somehow marrying it with the need for "international engagement". I could say I wouldn't vote for him if it came down to it, but I'd give him a chance to soften his stance before I called it a dealbreaker.
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