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messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:37 AM
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Ok Democrats is this a reasonable green party election strategy?
It is to me read on......
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From:
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/cobb.html
Green Party 2004 Presidential Strategy
By David Cobb
Introduction
The Green Party is the electoral arm of a growing worldwide movement for peace, social justice, ecology and democracy. The fundamental question facing us is one of sovereignty. Who shall rule - "We the People" by shared public decision-making or unelected and unaccountable corporate executives in private boardrooms?

The seriousness of the question cannot be overstated. Unrestrained corporate power is literally destroying the earth, and creating an unjust and ultimately unsustainable world with the plunder. Against this somber backdrop the Green Party must consider how we can continue to grow, and evolve beyond our current role as the party of opposition to the party of transformation of politics, culture, and economics.

Growing Our Party
I propose that the Green Party run a strategic presidential campaign in 2004 that establishes concrete goals to build the party at the local, state and national levels.

Specific Goals

Increase Green Party membership
Build and strengthen our internal infrastructure
Help local candidates and initiatives
Create state and local chapters were they do not yet exist
Hone our skills as citizen organizers by providing trainings to local chapters
Cobb Pledges
I commit that all actions of a Cobb Green Party campaign will work toward that end. If I seek the Green Party nomination for President, I make the following pledges:

I will publicly support the Green Party Platform as adopted at the Green Party national convention.
I will immediately share all volunteer lists generated during my campaign with the respective local and state Green Party.
I will share (at no cost) all donor lists generated during my campaign with the Green Party National Committee by January 2, 2005.
I will coordinate all hires at the national level with the Green Party National Committee, and at the state and local level with the respective state and local Green Party.
I will hire Green Party activists to work on my campaign at the national, state and local level.
The Proposed Overall Strategy
The Green Party stands at a crucial moment in our history. The unelected Bush regime has deeply divided the American people. It is unacceptable to claim that there is no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties. If we want our party to grow, we must demonstrate to the American people (and especially progressive voters) that we hear their concerns of the danger Bush poses.
I propose the following strategy for the Green Party Presidential campaign in 2004:

. We consistently articulate Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) as the only solution to the question of Greens as "spoilers."
. The candidate should publicly state that if Dennis Kucinich or Al Sharpton wins the Democratic Party nomination, we will withdraw from the race. Greens know that the DNC leadership and their corporate funders will never allow a Kucinich or Sharpton nomination. By publicly making this statement we demonstrate our willingness to work across party lines with genuine progressives, and when Kucinich and Sharpton are rebuked by the Democratic Party leadership (as were Jesse Jackson and Jerry Brown), it will continue to illustrate that the Democratic Party is not the progressive party in the US.
. The candidate should publicly state that if Joseph Lieberman wins the Democratic Party nomination our Presidential campaign will be run so as to prevent his election. We will not back away from an absolute rejection of such a corporate conservative candidate.
. The candidate should publicly state that if a marginally "moderate" (but still woefully inadequate) candidate wins the Democratic Party nomination, we will follow a Strategic States Plan for our campaign. Most of our resources should be focused on those states where the Electoral College votes are not "in play."
The Green Party can run a strong campaign in 2004 that grows our party, garners millions of votes, and culminates with George Bush losing the election. The Green Party has grown larger, stronger and better organized with every election cycle. With such strength comes a responsibility to exercise it wisely and effectively.
Response and Feedback requested
David Cobb - cobbweb@greens.org


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From 2003 National Conference--July 2003
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/cobb.html
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:40 AM
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1. No. This is not the time for culture wars, this is life or death.
n/t.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:42 AM
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2. why not just stick with winning Mayor's races until 2005? (nt)
nt
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:47 AM
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3. The reason this is a bad idea.
Firstly, you might figure NY (for example) is a safe place to promote a Green for President, but NY has a Republican governor. Other states which may seem obviously going one way aren't guaranteed.

Also, the county is inter-connected. You can't campaign in one state without being noticed in other states.

If you campaign in NY, people in New Jersey and Connecticut will hear your campaign.

No Green for President in 2004. Run for any other office.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:49 AM
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4. Put another way: Slow death or quick death?
Keeping the repukes in power gives us a better chance at quick death.

On the other hand, getting bush* out is a far greater priority if we wish to endure the sickness and go for a cure that will help future generations. It might be better off to wait 4 years unless there's an indication that the masses are tired of the failed 1 party system. (not 2 party because the Dems cater to corporate interest, too... even Dean does. NAFTA and FTAA, I need say no more about him on that. But even with that weakness, Dean has still said things that have impressed me. Lip service? Dunno.)

Mr. Cobb is correct regarding Kucinich. Getting Kucinich in there would be the BEST AND IDEAL THING TO DO THAT EVEN THE GREENS AND DEMOCRATS WOULD AGREE WITH. Sorry to yell.

Heh, it's like the Greens of 2004 are like the Dems of 1972... not nearly enough funds, fought corporate interests, had the pukes as massive opposition...
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:04 AM
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5. You're not for national euthanasia?
In an ideal world, Kucinich might be president. But that's not going to happen. Dean might not be the perfect candidate, but I think his intentions are pure. If it's a choice between Bush and Dean is there really a choice? I say it's a pretty obvious one.
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