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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:46 AM
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Ashcroft is having Greenpeace charged as a "criminal conspiracy"
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 01:52 AM by Wonk
Nov. 14 Ñ ÊWhen Greenpeace activists illegally scrambled aboard the cargo ship APL Jade, it was the start of a pretty typical day. Convinced the ship was hauling contraband mahogany from Brazil, the environmentalists aimed to draw attention to it by unfurling a banner with this message: ÒPresident Bush, Stop Illegal Logging.Ó Their arrests by the Coast Guard were also part of a dayÕs work. But the later use of an obscure 19th century law to charge the entire organization with criminal conspiracy has Greenpeace defenders claiming that they are the target of U.S. Attorney General John AshcroftÕs attempts to stifle political criticism of the government.

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But 15 months after the APL Jade incident, the U.S. Justice Department in FloridaÕs Southern District dramatically upped the ante. Drawing on an 1872 law, it filed criminal charges against Greenpeace USA for boarding a ship before its arrival in port, and with conspiracy to do so Ñ in a case scheduled to be heard in December.

Critics and some legal experts say the pursuit of an entire organization for this type of civil disobedience by its members is a break with 200 years of American tradition, and appears to be an attempt by the Bush administration to silence a vocal critic. In the words of former Vice President Al Gore, the legal move looks to be Òaimed at inhibiting GreenpeaceÕs First Amendment activities.Ó

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Some observers say it is possible that Greenpeace could lose its tax-exempt status in the United States Ñ a death knell for a non-profit organization. The Miami attorney generalÕs office declined to comment on that possibility.

More broadly, say rights activists, a conviction could have a chilling effect on other organizations that practice nonviolent protest.

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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:52 AM
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1. All that aside . . .
You don't have a first amendment right to illegally trespass on others' property. I mean, sure it's a dastardly (sp?) calculated political shot at Greenpeace (and it's kinda dumb), but still this is a little overdramatic.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:35 AM
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5. So charge the people involved with tresspassing. This law he's using was
written to prevent whores and bars from luring sailors off ships, leaving them unattended and unprotected, which isn't what Greenpeace was doing at all.

And, uh, why isn't Ashcroft charging the Captain and/or boat owners for illegal trade in bigleaf mahogany, an endangered species?

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-SPECIES/1998/May/Day-14/e12803.htm
(notice the year)

Can you say "selective prosecution"? I knew you could.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:42 AM
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6. Thank you Mr. Robinson...
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 03:43 AM by Isome
That kind of critical thinking will draw me into your neighborhood every time!

(I had to add... possibly obscure reference to Eddie Murphy's comic parody of Mr. Rogers...)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:51 PM
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14. Selective Prosecution is a common thing in Totalitarian Societies
As Imperial Amerika is becoming.

Unless We the People STOP IT! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER LOSE HOPE!
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:46 PM
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11. ermoore....You Just Don't Understand
The protestors were tried and convicted in court. They were sentenced to time served (two days). Greenpeace as a whole did not board that ship. Yes, the local organizers knew it was going to be done.

But should Greenpeace itself be tried on a law that hasn't been used since 1872? The law was called the "Boardinghouse Law" where boardinghouses would hire prostitutes and others to board ships as they came into harbor to lure the sailors into the boardinghouses to spend there money. How does that relate to peaceful protest?

You can bet that this trial will go before a judge sympathetic to Ashcroft and now that Ashcroft has attempted to demand that all judges will use the highest sentences that they can; Greenpeace will have the book thrown at them.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:54 AM
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2. I would never think
that the Attorney General would single out an organization.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 09:30 AM
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8. Get used to it.
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 09:31 AM by SpiralHawk
All the mechanisms are in place. They will just pick off the dissenters one by one, and group by group, until there is some fearful national emergency, and they can bring the "Iron Hammer" down on democracy in the US of A.

But this, too, shall pass. Quickly.
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:56 AM
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3. You take away non violent protest
And all that is left is violence. Thomas Jefferson knew this - even encouraged it. If the government does not fear the people, it becomes oppresive.

Be careful Mr. Ashcroft. You don't fuck with our Freedom.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:57 AM
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4. Come to think of it...
It does feel 1872'ey lately. Well maybe not.*






*Historical footnote: In 1872 there was a "Liberal Republican" party. :wow:


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 09:01 AM
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7. Bush claims he welcomes protests, but this is proof positive
he's a LIAR!
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 09:44 AM
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10. Don't look now, but it's been proven ever since the
first 'free speech zones' were set up.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 09:37 AM
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9. Ashcroft is a pimple on the ass of democracy
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:01 PM
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12. i've written to my Reps, Asscroft and
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 01:04 PM by buddhamama
the Florida Authorities about this.
i want answers. surely the Feds can find a more productive way in which to spend our tax dollars and their time.
not surprisingly, i haven't heard back from any of them.

edited for spelling


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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:49 PM
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13. kick
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