How does Bush* know God is on his side?

[Q]

- In my most humble opinion...there is nothing more 'immoral' than a politician hiding behind religion to escape responsibility for his actions. Adopting the mantle of a humble, 'God-fearing' man, Bush* has implied that God is giving him 'guidance' in his war against everything evil.

- George* once said that he 'believes' God wanted him to become president. (After waking up from a decades-long drunken haze). Many Republicans have implied the same thing...including a general in charge of 'democratizing' Iraq and the zealot attorney general and loser of an election to a dead man, John Ashcroft.

- This is much more than a 'leap of faith'. It's asking us to believe that Bush* and many so-called 'God-fearing' Republicans have some sort of 'connection' to God that the rest of us aren't 'righteous' enough to comprehend. Have they 'communicated' with God or seen 'signs' that lead them to believe Bush* was chosen by God to lead this country during these difficult times? Or are they simply using God and religion to appeal to their fundamentalist followers?

- GWB* provides a perfect example of why the Founders erected a 'wall of separation' between church and state. They knew from their experiences with the 'Motherland' that it was impossible to enjoy 'religious freedom' when the church and state acted as one to promote a dominant or state religion.

- Does George* have some sort of special communication with God or is he delusional? I submit that he's using God...as he did 9-11...for his own political advantage, to give himself the 'divine right of kings' and put himself above the law.

[pinkpops]

1. here comes the blind commissioner

they've got him in a trance

[Touchdown]

2. Elvis appears in his Cheez Whiz every morning

and tells him so.:crazy:

[CityZen-X]

29. False...god

That was not God who Bu$h*t heard from. It was the Ghost of Christmas Past!!

[Garage Queen]

3. How does he know? Easy, silly!

'cause God TOLD him so! :evilgrin:

(by the way, I agree 100% with your post - he's just another idiot attempting to hide his idiocy behind the mantle of God)

[ComerPerro]

4. Next time a fundie tells you something about what "God" told them,

Tell them that you feel that God has indeed spoken to you, and through thought and prayer he has helped you to be a better liberal, and therefore a better person. Tell them that God told you that we need to show genuine compassion for others.

They will, of course, tell you that you are a liar and are going to hell for using the lord to push your own agenda.

Ironic, isn't it?

[spanone]

5. what does His God believe? How many has * went to their graves?

[July]

6. It is a way to avoid real explanations or substance

We're supposed to take his policies on faith because he knows in his heart that he's doing the right thing, with God's guidance. Convenient escape hatch.

It's also the prettiest veneer he can put on what really happened in Florida. He knows he didn't get into the WH through his own talents or a fair election. But saying that God made it happen sounds so much better than "I got fewer votes and then my cronies cheated for me," doesn't it?

[Ardee]

7. Im surprised at you folks, really I am

I was under the impression that we had a literate and intelligent group of folks here at DU yet all I see in this thread are those who are so very uninformed......:+

As I must refresh your memories regarding the documented connection between the current administration and the Lord all I must do is remind you all that, when God needed to communicate with Moses he used a burning Bush, did he not? So, now that Bush has access to medication to control the burning, Preparation H works very well,why do you doubt that the lines of communication are still open?

[dbt]

16. Meaning that bu$h is talking out his ass?

:evilgrin:
dbt

[rucky]

8. So the real question is: Is * manipulative or delusional?

God told me he's delusional, but that's just one supreme being's opinion.

When the fundies give me that "God chose Bush" line, I tell them to beware of false prophets.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

9. the voices in his head ... who could it be? could it be

Satan? :evilgrin:

[Catshrink]

12. I would love to see the Church Lady go at Jr. n/t

[rucky]

13. WCTV: I found a photo of you on the 'net!

Now isn't that special?

[54anickel]

10. Cause Cheney (the devil) keeps telling him so. He's delusional and

gives Christians a bad name.

Here's an interesting article from a while back in Sojourners.

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0309&article=030910

Dangerous Religion
George W. Bush's theology of empire.
by Jim Wallis

Here are a few snippets to give you a jist of the article:

William Kristol, editor of the influential Weekly Standard, admits the aspiration to empire. "If people want to say we're an imperial power, fine," Kristol wrote.

To this aggressive extension of American power in the world, President George W. Bush adds God—and that changes the picture dramatically.

Then came Sept. 11, 2001. Bush's compassionate conservatism and faith-based initiative rapidly gave way to his newfound vocation as the commander-in-chief of the "war against terrorism." Close friends say that after 9/11 Bush found "his mission in life." The self-help Methodist slowly became a messianic Calvinist promoting America's mission to "rid the world of evil."

Every Christian hopes to find a vocation and calling that is faithful to Christ. But a president who believes that the nation is fulfilling a God-given righteous mission and that he serves with a divine appointment can become quite theologically unsettling. Theologian Martin Marty voices the concern of many when he says, "The problem isn't with Bush's sincerity, but with his evident conviction that he's doing God's will." As Christianity Today put it, "Some worry that Bush is confusing genuine faith with national ideology." The president's faith, wrote Klein, "does not give him pause or force him to reflect. It is a source of comfort and strength but not of wisdom."

[rucky]

11. MUST READ ARTICLE

I've had it bookmarked since it came out.

Good plug, nickel!

[54anickel]

22. Thanks, I only hope that those who claim his faith is fake are correct,

because if he is sincere in what he states he believes, he is much more dangerous.
I read the book by Charles Kimball, "When Religion Becomes Evil". If you read that with Bush's statements in mind, it gets pretty scary. Thought is was a pretty good book, especially the section on "The End Justifies Any Means".

Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

[Racenut20]

14. Every Bigot in the course of history

Has wrapped himself in the flag or the Bible. This one does both.

[matcom]

15. Cause Bob Dylan Says So!

:P

[pinkpops]

23. one hand is tied to the tightrope walker

the other is in his pants.

[Nikia]

17. He is using religion

I don't think that he is a spiritual man at all and may, in fact be atheist. He has realized that a relatively large voting block will be loyal to him if he invokes God. I think that some Arab leaders do the same thing with the Islamic version to gain support too. The question is whether they actually believe it. Considering Bush's past and upbringing as well as his very un Christian conduct and attitude, I say the chances that he actually is devote are slim. Most people who have some Christian beliefs would consider it a huge sin to use God for one's own glory and political purposes to hurt others. That's why I think that he is perhaps really atheist. If you have read "Brothers Karamozov" by Doestevesky, about the Grand Inquisitor, you'll know what I am talking about.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Bingo!

Bush is a phony bastard!

[nostamj]

18. the chimp's "religion" is as fake

as his "ranch"

it's pure, cynical politics.

remember, it's not enough for people to be thought UNPATRIOTIC for questioning BushCo, they want to brand any challenge to *'s entitlement to be viewed as BLASPHEMY too.

HATE, FEAR & IGNORANCE: The Real BushCo Trifecta

[BootinUp]

19. Simple: They are Evildoers...so he must be on Gods side

I'd say thats the message in a nutshell. Ignorance of the human story of suffering makes it easy for americans to buy into the Bush war machine.

[newyawker99]

24. Hi Jim4Wes!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[carpetbagger]

20. Massive ego/Messiah complex

It seems to be in the McLennan County groundwater, judging from their two most famous residents...

[kalian]

21. Strange things happen to the brain when people snort coke...

and drown themselves in alcohol...

[DS1]

25. Simple, God hasn't told him otherwise

Fundamentalist logic is always best figured out by taking the path of least resistance.

[leftofthedial]

26. coz Jeebiz done tol' him so

Hallelujah! I don' talk to Gawd, so George the Exalted MUST be destined to rule over me. Praise be to Jehuba.

What a bunch of unmitigated bullshit.

[knight_of_the_star]

27. Well

MY God didn't say that he talks to Mr. Bush EVER, so where does that put us then? Would it be blaphsemy for me to oppose him if I believe that MY God doesn't talk to him, hmmmmm?

What a load of horse crock this administration is. I seem to remember one of France's worst kings was the one who was most pious, I think it was Louis the Pious. He did a piss-poor job of running HIS country. Too much praying while your hands are on the levers of power has a tendency to soften the brain just a tad.

[54anickel]

28. Amen!

Love that line,
"Too much praying while your hands are on the levers of power has a tendency to soften the brain just a tad."

[bobthedrummer]

30. A traitor to democracy. A traitor to the People.

Cicero on traitors, 42B.C.

"A nation can survive it's fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly.

But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor...He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

He rots the soul of a nation...he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city...he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared."

G.W.Bush to press at Camp David, 9-15-2001
"This is an administration that will not talk about how we gather intelligence, how we know what we're going to do, nor what our plans are."

[Malva Zebrina]

31. evil fascist dictators in the past also invoked the same god

just take a look at past history. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco all had the church on their side, and they invoked that god often. It is easy to pull the wool over the eyes of those who believe, unconditionally, in the supernatural--if they can believe in godly interventions in other areas of their life that they pray for,such as getting a good job, help in times of financial need, being healed while the two year old next door dies a painful death from cancer, they can easily be led to believe in a godly intervention in their president's dictates--and his personal messages from the same god. If doubtful and it seems that a question may arise as to the lies and the murders committed by their sainted president, I suppose the mantra that the "god works in mysterious ways" is the one to fall back upon without causing too much trouble and the one most often repeated platitude that cures it all.

[kodi]

32. Bush is one step away from being a Moonie

and sometimes i wonder if he is one.

[opihimoimoi]

33. Bush is beyond a trance, he is delusionally arrogant

Watch my drive George will go down in History as a loser who threw it all away.

He listened to Rove when he shoulda listened to Karen Hughes

[Solomon]

34. Come On! Bush doesn't believe that nonsense. He's using religion

in the worse way.

[Lisa]

35. He reminds me of Vorbis in Terry Pratchett's "Small Gods"

Vorbis is a supposedly-devout man who leads a nation into war, in the belief that it's divinely ordained. He thinks God is telling him to do it.

Pratchett describes Vorbis's mind as a hollow sphere, brilliantly polished on the inside. What he thinks is the Word of God is really his own desires and ambitions, magnified as they bounce around inside his brain. He isn't hearing (or listening for) any sign from the outside world that contradicts him.

[Liberator_Rev]

36. "Liberals Like Christ" have been exposing Bush since 2000

We've been doing as much as penniless Liberals could to expose Bush to expose his whole diabolical family on the www through posting and through http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org

http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/BushRecord &
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/BushFamily


See why Christians who are serious about following Christ
ought to be Liberal Democrats.

[Q]

37. I remember RWingers screaming...

...about Clinton going to church and carrying a bible after the services. But now we have a 'president' that outright says 'God' wanted him to be president and routinely uses religion to explain his 'passion' for fighting evil.

- In another time and place and in a more rational world...Bush* would be put in a padded room and called insane.