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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:43 AM
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Gallup Poll: Clark most favorable across party lines
http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031114.asp

Several of the candidates, including in particular Clark, have a more positive image among the general American population than the others do.

John Kerry +12%
Joe Lieberman +16%
John Edwards +10%
Dick Gephardt +4%
Howard Dean +4%
Al Sharpton -50%
Dennis Kucinich -34%
Carol Moseley Braun -14%
Wesley Clark +26%

As can be seen, Clark clearly has the most favorable image of any of the candidates, with a net positive of 26 percentage points among the group of Americans who know enough about him to give an opinion. Clark is followed by Lieberman, Kerry, and Edwards, with net favorables in the +10 to +16 range, and then Gephardt and Dean. The remaining three candidates have net unfavorable images, with Sharpton in possession of the most negative image of all. ~ Gallup Poll

Some very interesting stats on various political questions asked on the link provided, in almost all, Clark wins hands down





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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:46 AM
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1. And looky there
Lieberman is second. That sounds about right.

Clark a moderate Republican, Lieberman is a conservative Democrat.


Makes sense to me.

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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:49 AM
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3. Clark is a moderate Republican...
...and I suppose Dean is a raging leftist? Please don't make me laugh so hard this early in the morning.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:51 AM
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7. LOL
Yeah, Dean is a raging leftist. He just wants laws curbing freedom of speech rather than an amendment. ;)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:54 PM
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27. Burning The Flag Is A STATE ISSUE
Just like gun control :D
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:08 PM
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19. Has Dean or his supporters decided
just what he is yet, other than a candidate....or is it dependant on the moment?



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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:49 AM
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5. Drop the name-calling for a minute
And take a look at the pragmatic side of this poll.

This poll means that Clark has more of a chance of beating Bush than any of the other candidates.
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:53 AM
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8. Coming in second
is only the first loser.



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joshan361 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:54 AM
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9. and you are BIASED!
all your post show such. and in typical Dean fashion you are taking cheap shots at fellow candidates. with that Dean camp thinking you arent part of the solution you are the problem!
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:58 AM
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12. name one issue that Dean is to the left of Clark //nt
??????????
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:54 PM
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32. still waiting for one, just one issue
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:22 PM
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33. kick, for a reply
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:01 PM
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14. Howard Dean Still an Unknown Quantity to Many Americans
http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031114.asp

1. Are the Democratic candidates becoming better known after months of intensive campaigning?

No, except for retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark. Despite a great deal of media focus on the Democratic race, including a number of nationally televised debates, most of the candidates are not better known today among members of their own party than they were back in August, just before the campaigning began in earnest.


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:01 PM
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30. I Don't Know Which Is More Dismaying
Your naievete or willing suspension of disbelief....


A Democrat can't win an election without attracting swing voters....


Unless the Doctor has repealed the laws of mathematics....
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joshan361 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:47 AM
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2. nuff said!
that is something most of us that have followed Clark way before a draft movement knew already.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:00 PM
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13. Exactly......he's most appealing to the most people,
and he's a smart, great and gracious guy.

:kick:
DemEx
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:49 AM
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4. Wow!
That is wonderful! More good news for the General and I suspect, with time, this is will be more and more common. JMCPBO
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:56 AM
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11. Click the link
In almost all catagories, Clark is the winner!


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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:50 AM
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6. That was very interesting reading, thanks for the link!
It is fascinating that Clark is doing so well given his late entry, the lack of national press coverage and the fact he has yet to release his first ad. He must be getting some good local press coverage, thank goodness!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:01 PM
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15. It's because he's a military man in an era in which Republicans have
convinced Americans that the most important thing for someone to be is a military man.

What Clark Sensei is doing it political Kung Fu. The Republicans have made militarism a strength. So Clark Sensei is taking that strength and turning it on Bush.

There will be one of two results: either Clark will get nominated once he neutralizes the Republican advantage on national security issues, or, his neutralizing of the issue will allow an FDR-Lincoln style Democrat to step in and open a can of democratic middle-class opprotunity/race/taxes whoop-ass on the weakened Bush.

Either way, it's important for Democrats to allow Clark the room to destroy Bush on national security. However, I think it's also important for Democrats to remember what really makes a Democrat a Democrat and to make sure that the nominee stands 100% as a symbol for those issues (ie, middle class opportunity, racial equality, and progressive taxation).
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:55 AM
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10. confirms once again that Dean and Gephardt are the least electable
serious candidates

Nominating a middle class tax raiser who is either a boring labor union-slave or a beligerant whiner would be suicide for the party
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:02 PM
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16. jeez.
nice Democratic supportive stance there....
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:02 PM
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17. Please, Bombtrack, don't use this good news for Clark thread
for bashing others....

:-( :thumbsdown:

DemEx
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:06 PM
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18. I was having my doubts this makes me feel much better.
I believe if Clark gets the nomination. He will win the election.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:16 PM
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20. This is the same poll that shows Dean with a slight lead.
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 12:33 PM by madfloridian
The new nationwide Gallup poll shows Howard Dean at the top of the field (October 24-26 numbers, followed by October 10-12 results, in parentheses):

Dean 17 (16) (13)
Lieberman 15 (12) (13)
Clark 14 (15) (18)
Gephardt 12 (12) (10)
Kerry 10 (10) (11)
Edwards 7 (6) (6)


The 17 is from Nov. 12, the 16 from Oct. 24-26, and the 13 from Oct. 10-12. This is way too close for anyone to shout about.

Please do not pick just certain parts to exclaim about. There is something for a lot of the candidates here. No one nationally is doing that well. I could not post this whole section, so I put the top 6. The others polled below 7. Graham was already out.
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:32 PM
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23. The portion of the poll I posted to make my point
was reaching across party lines, which is what we have to do in order to win this thing, not just on our side of the fence, even Dean knows that, and so far Clark has the ability to do that heads above the rest.

And your post showed only that Dean was ahead "ONLY" on this side of the fence so to use your own words: Please do not pick just certain parts to exclaim about.


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:21 PM
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21. Very interesting..
Does this mean Repubs that might be disenchanted with Bush might vote for Clark when they might not vote for another Democrat? Except Lieberman does very well with this group also...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:13 PM
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31. Not quite
Republicans for Dean
http://atlblogs.com/republicansfordean/

Independents for Dean
http://deanindependents.org/


And look what I just found, which isn't as germane, but IS very interesting so I'll post it anyway: The Money Map
http://www.fundrace.org/moneymap.php?cand=RepVDem&zoom=Zip3

Eloriel

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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 04:48 PM
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36. Oh come on, every campaign has
that kind of stuff:
go to http://clark04.com/grassroots/
and find links for these groups
African Americans for Democratic Leadership
» Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders for Wesley Clark
» Clark's Army
» Disabled Americans for Clark
» Environmentalists for Clark
» George Washington University
» GLBT for Clark
» Hispanics for Clark
» Hispanos Con Clark
» Hoyas for Clark
» Independents for Clark
» Latinos for Clark
» Physicians for Clark
» Republicans, Independents, Dems for Clark
» Runners for Clark
» Students for Clark
» The Clark Coalition
» The Wesley Clark Weblog
» US 4 Clark
» Veterans for Clark
» WesleyClark.us
» Wolverines for Clark
» Women for Clark
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:23 PM
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22. Clark is a true uniter.
Sounds kind of Pollyanna, but it looks plain to me that Clark can win for Progressives and win the respect of Republicans. I want a president who can help heal the rifts in this country. I really think Clark can do it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:35 PM
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24. Does he appeal because of his military background or....
for some other reason? He has been talking like a "progressive" so I cannot see that they support him on the issues, except perhaps the "flag burning" issue, which is really not much of an issue in practice because it is so seldom done...
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:49 PM
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26. From an outsider's perspective...
His military background has alot to do with it, national security, REAL national security not the codswallup that Bush is pushing, is a big issue with most Americans, it always has been.

I think he appeals on another level too though, for those who have been looking at all, those being moderate repubs and independents, they have seen that he offers alot that they can live with and I think that is key. They may not totally agree with all his positions but he has not angered them either.

It will be interesting to see the polls once he really does start hitting the national stage, getting his positions out there.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:00 PM
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29. The military background is a plus ...
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 01:02 PM by gulliver
... for at least two reasons, IMO. First, obviously national security is a big issue for me and for others. Strangely, as a four-star general, Clark will be in a unique position to refrain from military action.

Second, Clark's tremendous rise up the ranks in the military and the many glowing accounts of his brilliance (even from Colin Powell) show that Clark is a man to be reckoned with. His service career is a credential that inspires confidence independant of its militar origin.

But perhaps Clark's biggest appeal to me is that he takes a big picture, historical view, strongly (unmatched, IMO) promotes progressive ideas, and does not play "divide and conquer." I see him as a great candidate in the Democratic tradition who can win over reasonable Republicans and end this spiral of hate we are in -- globally and domestically.
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joshan361 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 04:13 PM
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34. he is
and he makes a point of not tearing up fellow dems to get his point across and message out. that cant be said for anyone of the others.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:44 PM
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25. "various political questions asked...in almost all, Clark wins hands down"
Yeah, except that little question about who they want to win the Democratic nomination.

The trends:
Poll Dates 8/25 9/8 9/19 10/6 10/10 10/24 11/10

Dean 12 14 13 16 13 16 17

Clark 2 10 22 21 18 15 14
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 05:17 PM
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37. So I guess because
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 05:20 PM by retyred
Dean was ahead on 4 of those dates and Clark was ahead on 3, Dean is the clear choice? World series logic!



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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:57 PM
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28. Clark is Bush beater
until the $200 million in Bush ads start attacking him. Clark's had a positive campaign so far. People don't hate him the way they hate Dean, yet. So he is definitely capable of sending W back to Crawford for good.

Man, I really hope Bush has his ass handed to him in a most humiliating way.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 04:38 PM
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35. I also think Clark has a visceral appeal that most of the others don't
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 04:42 PM by roguevalley
have. He's a gentleman. <Not to say others aren't, but he's
got a southern repectful manner and that is so soothing after
faux fat head. That is very apparent. Polite, concerned,
listens to people, talks to them directly.

He's smart and global in his thinking. I don't think it can be underestimated how much people want to go back and be a part of the world. Bush broke all our alliances. Americans don't like to be hated, especially when its all done with maliciousness like Bush and Co. did. Clark can put us back with our friends right away.

Clark is calm, reasoned and respectful. He's smart with an approachable demeanor. I feel flashes of John Kennedy from him, a sort of hopefulness that I have not felt in decades. We could become what we should be with his kind of level-headed and progressive leadership. Couple that with military experience -which is now necessary because of what Bush has caused- and his relationships with world leaders -the head of NATO, Sir ?, the Scotsman- said that Clark
was his personal friend in an interview shortly ago. None of the others can bring to the table what he already has, including working relationships with diverse world leaders.

He also has economics degrees and experience running towns, ie military bases. He's a genuinely good man.

That is why he will appeal. He's not a man you would say had visible extremes like Bush and others. He's willing to listen and have good people around him. And he will continue Clinton's dialogue about race in this country, which is SERIOUSLY overdue.

That is why he is where he is with only eight weeks behind him.
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