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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:00 PM
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Why do they want a "democracy" in Iraq? Why not a "republic"?
Since most of the right-wingers are always correcting Democrats on what we have in this country. "This is not a democracy - this is a republic." As if the "republic" is superior to a democracy? So why not build a "republic"? Or is it already a republic? A republic in chaos, thanks to Dubya. Yeah, as soon as we finish building a democracy over there, we can start over here.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:05 PM
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1. OMG! Great point! (nt)
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:07 PM
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2. Democracy sounds better for some reason (n/t)
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:53 PM
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11. Too complex for dittoheads to understand. Democracy sound simple.
Except they don't realize we haven't had a decent democracy since Carter administration.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:09 PM
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3. that "democracy vs. republic" rubric applies only domestically
note that we also want to give them schools, healthcare, jobs, voting rights, and other priveleges that do not exist in the US.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:12 PM
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4. a matter of definitions
A Democracy, the people (Greek 'demos') rule. The United States is a Representitive Democracy, where the people select others to represent them. So is England. But not the People's Republic of China, where the leaders are not voted on.

A Republic is any system where the rulers are not heriditary. This also applies to the United States (or used to). Also, the People's Republic of China. But not to England, who still has the Monarchy and House of Lords.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:41 PM
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5. That is a great definition and allows us a great comeback to their meme
"We are a Republic not a Democracy" All we need to say is yes like the Republic of China or the Republic of North Korea and not the Representative Democracy of England.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:49 PM
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6. Alas, North Korea is not a Republic!
Since the son inherited the ruling post!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:16 PM
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7. They use it in their name is what I was referring to.
A lot of ex-communist countries do also.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:21 PM
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8. But it is NOT a monarchy.
A republic is a form of government which is NOT a monarchy.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:09 PM
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9. Not yet it isn't
Let's see if the grandson also inherits the leadership...
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:24 PM
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10. Because a "republic" might be Islamic, or a collection of free...
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 06:26 PM by Scott Lee
states, as was the original plan in this country. A loose association of free states would be too hard to control, and the energy misers would have too tough a time taking control of resources.

If the USA can get a puppet under their thumb, in some sort of farcical "democracy", they would know exactly what pressure to apply and where to get what they want.

Nation manipulation and control 101.


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