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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:16 PM
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DEMS need to start taking on the media whores, head on.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:17 PM by Dr Fate
...they need to start taking on the media more- pointing it out when THEY lie.

I'd love to hear a DEM ask Tim Russert or whoever-

DEM: "You refused to cover this story(pick a lie, any lie) about Bush- perhaps you would like to explain to me and the voters why you kept this important information for them..."

WHORE: "But this is not about me..."

DEM: "No- Tim, this IS about you- It is YOUR JOB to advance the freedom of the press by reporting ALL the news,even if it does make Bush look bad. Look Tim, I should not have to be the one to bring this topic up (Pick a lie, any lie)- that is YOUR job and I think the people deserve to know why you refuse to do it...By the way, you also "forgot" or refused to report this story (Pick a lie, any lie), and this story (pick a lie, any lie) and this story too (Pick any Bush lie). How can we have fair elecrions if peopel like you only report part of the facts? I think this is very important for 2004, and I think your viewers deserve an answer..."

Forget attacking Republicans, we need to attack their propaganda ministires.

If we CUT OUT THEIR TOUNGUES, then half the battle is won.

Seriously, why do DEMS REFUSE to call the media whores out, TO THEIR FACE, on TV? It would be beautiful.

I guess some of them are afraid that if they attack Bush/media, then Bush/media will be "mean to them"- Newsflash DEMS- they cant get any "meaner to you"- so you might as well show some fucking guts...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:22 PM
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1. And NOT back down after making strong statements
That is what pisses me off about Daschle. He'll call the repukes down and a day later apologize for speaking the truth.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:41 PM
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7. Daschle, more than once described Bush as "honest" and "nice"
And he said it in a punk-ass WIMP voice that sounded like a cross between Peggy Noonan and Floyd the Barber...

I will give him a huge piece of my mind if I ever get the chance...

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:23 PM
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2. I've kicked the CNN addiction
and stopped watching......period.

They decided no longer to mention my candidate by name....

so it's adios, aurevoir, goodbye......

They will not get my viewership numbers....no siree....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:32 PM
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4. Trust- me I do not watch Bush/media either...
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:37 PM by Dr Fate
I only read the transcripts on DU or Buzzflash...

I boycotted Bush/media long ago.

If DEMS would get confrontational with their greatest enemy, Bush/media, that might make it worth watching again...

Gore accused Alan Colmes to his face of being biased and basically a Lackey- it was great.
Gore LAUGHED IN HIS FACE when Colmes said "But-but Fox IS 'fair & balanced'

Then Gore chuckled and said- "okay, I wont make you bite the hand that feeds you"

I'd like to see this in every interview- use FACTS to back it up- bring up specific BOMBSHELL lies and ask them over and over

DEM: "Why did you hide this info from voters by refusing to report this?"

Cokie: We are getting off the subject...

DEM: NO, Cokie, I dont think it is off the subject AT ALL.
Cokie, It's not MY job to tell people about this- that is YOUR job, and you refuse to do it for some reason- care to tell us why? How can we have a real Democracy when our press does not report ALL the information about our leaders? If voters knew about these things, they would be concerned. I'm trying to inform them myself, but it's tough doing my job AND your job too..."

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:25 PM
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3. Would it be a plus or minus to put the media on the defensive ?
I think it would be a plus. They need to be called on their double standard of overlooking stories that might not reflect too favorably on the Repubs...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:36 PM
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5. Telling the truth is ALWAYS a plus, but will DEMS realize this???
OR are they afraid that Bush/media will be "mean to them" if they do?

I dont see how they could smear and distort DEMS anymore than they do now, or protect Bush any harder. I say we go for it.

Too bad (many?) (most?) DEMS are too scared to tell he truth about Bush/media though...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:39 PM
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6. One Current Target: The FEITH Memo
that Faux has been flogging for three days now. It has been devalued by the DoD press release that is on display at LBN, yet this A.M. Faux was continuing to call it the "smoking gun" and PERLE cited it on C-Span and the Weekly Standard's cover sez "Case Closed." Effing wingnuts have no shame.

But as for the topic at hand, I hear ya, am wicha, but also have a binful of e-mails to media whores sent out since the FAKE impeachment. See any difference yet?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:44 PM
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8. The DEMS are the only people who can call them on this, but WILL THEY?
Apparenty (most?)(many?) (all?) DEMS are too scared that Bush/media will be "mean to them" if they do.

I try so hard to support DEMS, but DAMN, somtimes I really do wonder if they are all black-mailed or somthing...

FIGHT GOD DAMMIT-FIGHT!!!!
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:46 PM
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9. The Media, the Whore of Babylon
I should have added them to my Apocalyptic about the Bush Administration. <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=721542>
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:46 PM
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10. Please edit your post removing the profanity Dr. Fate.
"so you might as well show some fucking guts..."

Or I will have to lock it.

Thanks,
MrsGrumpy
DU Moderator

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:49 PM
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13. interesting
Bono can say it on national TV, but I guess he can't post it here

interesting
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:50 PM
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14. dupe
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:51 PM by buycitgo
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:46 PM
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11. beautiful, beautiful thread.....great idea
they should make a POINT of deMANDing to know why certain stories are NEVER covered....like all the LIES condi tells, for just one obvious example. they could just keep on the lie tack forever.

point is, just go at every interviewer, every time with this/

"sir, madam--until you tell me why you have NEVER, EVER mentioned the fact that George Bush's TANG records have been altered (providing documentation--photostat of torn page/untorn page), I won't answer any of your questions."

what if they ALL did that?

all the time?

remember how #41 quashed Dan Rather's interview back in 88?

I've mentioned this before in another thread

why doesn't somebody get to the dems with some sort of similar idea?

Gore got the hint.....too bad he can't do it against anybody but Colmes
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:47 PM
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12. Reply--Dems need to take on Media Whores.
We have reached a point in this country where we as activists need to band together--all types of activists--need to have a war room of sorts and and get as many members of each website as possible geared up so that at a moments's notice we can call on them to call, write- EMail the media.The Republicans never would have reached their level of success had it not been for their grassroot activists. Look jow quickly they geared up and made CBS foldregarding the Regans. long the activists on the Left look disorganized and unaffected the Media will continue to follow the bidding of the right. The grassroots on the rightwrites calls, EMails. Tjhe Media is afraid of this grassroots action. The Right has just about convinced thdem the country is conservative. Half the country does not even vote. We have permitted a small group who are well organized take rule of the country. Liberal Views are superior to Conservative views--Even O"Reilly admits that but for some reason we choose to let the Conservatives rule.

Here is an example where serious Liberal Action is needed. Cheney and some other Republicans have told all Republicans to call talk shows, Radio Programs and other Media Outlets to complain about George Soros and his 15,000,000 plan to help Democrats unseat George Bush.

Liberals should be hitting the networks with EMails, telephone calss
Mail. illustrating by example how hypocrtical the Right are being.
During the 2000 campaign, some walthy Texas Businessmen called themselves an organization had TV adds made to bring down John MCCain. This is legal. Therefore George Soros has every right to do do the same on the left. All the Corporate Money brought in by Republicans dwarfs Democrats. Until we strike back the media assume the Left is too weak so they go with the Right.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:52 PM
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15. I've taken it to the people
Whenever anyone begins telling me about some trash news, I just say...you know they are lying to you, they lie all the time.

More times than not, the person just sadly shakes their head. Many years ago I ran across a quote about how Americans were/are the most propagandized nation on earth. Now the Soviet Union was still up and running at the time; however, the quote went on to say: that although Pravda told more lies, the people of the Russia knew they were being lied to, and believed nothing they were told. Whereas, the Americans actually thought they were hearing the truth.

While we may hope that the future holds more-some-any honesty in the media, we all can do something now. Never let a lie become the message.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:56 PM
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16. you are correct, madame
check you email, btw

Elvis is lonesome; getting new home in my kitchen
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