Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton on the Democratic Ticket together?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

[WindRavenX]

1. NO

How many times does she have to say she isn't running for anything until her current term as senator is done?
Jesus...

[ProudToBeLiberal]

2. did she refuse to run as VP?

[jeter]

3. Thank you WindravenX

Jesus people. Get over it. No Hillary. No Gore.

[lancdem]

4. I agree

She's not in the running for president or VP.

[mlawson]

5. Not unless you want Whitewater, Travelgate and Vince Foster

to be the top three issues next year!!! Believe me, the media whores would see to it!! 24/7!

Poor Dr Dean wouldn't even be able to get air time in that mess.

[Democrats unite]

6. Some people just don't understand what no means...

When Hillary says it. What part of no don't you understand?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

7. No can mean many things.

There are many shades of "no." For example if someone ask somebody if they want something to eat and the person responds with a "no." Sometimes it means that he/she really wants to eat. Thats with many cultures. Maybe a "no" means not a no to a draft. but a no to an outright primary

[ProudToBeLiberal]

you're advocating

that there is only just a black or white... you have to consider the gray area too you know. Don't be like bush who always think it's either evil or good

[Field Of Dreams]

8. No Hillary -- to polarizing at this point

Let her continue to duke it out in the Senate.

[keopeli]

9. Hillary: "No."

No means no. Hillary is a trooper for being willing to deal with all the crap she gets. Let's stop saying she might run; it's not helping anyone, really.

[CMT]

10. if a woman on the ticket I prefer Mary Landrieu.

Hillary would be wonderful but she did make a committment to the people of NY.

[jeter]

12. I like Mary Landrieu as well

[quinnox]

11. Nice picture of

the future first female president (2008 possibly) and a future failed presidential candidate.

[w13rd0]

13. No...

...though some might think it wise, and prepatory for a Hillary Pres run in 2012, it just wouldn't be wise. The Democratic party is more than just the Clinton family, just as the GOP SHOULD BE more than just the Bush family. I'd rather not turn this nation into an Empire that rotates control between two families...

[Ouabache]

14. She Did Not say no run to VP

?

I thought she just said she wouldn't run for prez.

Also this is just a kick to the top to get any lurking freepers panties in a bunch. They see this they will scurry back to their rock to begin the wailing and knashing of teeth. heheh.

[Scott Lee]

15. She has to renounce her pro-IWR vote first

and seeing as that's not likely, I'd not really favor her as VP.

[freespirit2003]

16. Dean and Hillary

You are as likely to get Hillary as Deans VP as you are to get Bill to leave the women alone.

[oasis]

17. speaking of leaving...goodbye!!

[tsipple]

18. Is This When We Hear about Brokered Convention Fantasies?

Just wondering, because it hasn't been posted yet to this thread and, well, I'm just worried that it's overdue now. (Yawn.)

I'll just note for the record that Republicans pulled this same stunt in 1992, talking about every prominent Democrat who wasn't running and who wouldn't be the nominee. They thought it was good media strategy or something. I don't know why they thought that, but like father, like son, eh? :evilgrin:

[Dems Will Win]

19. A brokered convention is actually a likely scenario this year as Winner

Take All primaries are illegal in Dem primaries now. Dean would have to win 60% of the delegate vote because 800 Super-Delegate politicos are pre-chosen and almost all are anti-Dean. In my opinion, a brokered convention is more likely than a non-brokered one under these rules and it's just because the news media is so DUMB that they still think this thing is wrapped in March.

[tsipple]

23. Uh, No

There's this thing called the 15% threshold in most states. Winner take all primaries have been uncommon for a great many years now. Nothing new there.

Actually, there are fewer primaries this year. We're trending back toward caucuses because they're cheaper. Caucuses are even less friendly to the outcome you describe.

No, superdelegates are not pre-chosen and/or "almost all anti-Dean." Lots of them support Howard Dean already, but the vast majority are uncommitted. As the nine candidates get whittled down, more superdelegates will switch to uncommited or will pledge to other survivors. (They almost always switch to uncommitted, because any particular survivor could lose the next round.) Moreover, they tend to vote with their constituents. (There's this big myth that they vote en masse against their rank-and-file.)

This premise was actually tested in 1988. Michael Dukakis came into the convention with a shade under the number of delegates required for an outright majority. Despite the hyperventilating of press pundits everywhere, desperate for some tidbit of news, the superdelegates oh-so-predictably voted for Dukakis just like everyone else. If anything they super-reinforced the popular will.

If they don't in 2004, especially after the 2000 Florida debacle, that's probably the end of the Democratic Party. Superdelegates are not stupid. (You can argue they're lots of things, but stupid they aren't.)

Sorry. It's a fantasy. The bookmakers aren't even taking bets on that one.

[ellie]

20. No, she's not running

for either president or vice president. Next question.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

22. do you like applesauce?

:P

[arewethereyet]

21. not a chance

way too much ego between them but it would be a pretty good ticket.