Would this foreign policy idea be supported by DU

[jiacinto]

Immediate withdrawl of the UN
Immediate withdrawl of troops from all over the world
Immediate withdrawl from NAFTA and the WTO
Immediate cessation of foreign aid
Immediate withdrawl from the I/P Conflict

What do you all think?

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[maddezmom]

2. didn't we have this discussion last night?

just in another form?

[LibInternationalist]

3. NO to all

would be more harmful than helpful

[HereSince1628]

4. Sounds like the far side of isolationism

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[KG]

5. all except the first one.

[gristy]

6. no, no, no, no, and...

NO! Glad to see your post, jiacinto.

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. All except number 4, with one stipulation

Immediate cessation of all MILITARY aid, replaced by blank check to every non US, non UN affliliated NGO in the world to clean up the massive humanitarian crisis the regime has created.

That together with all the others, could give your grandkids a chance to grow up in a place that does not resemble Rwanda.

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[ulysses]

9. who speaks for DU?

I'd support #3 and a gradual approach to #2, but that's me.

[jiacinto]

10. Well

I was wondernig what the world would be like if we became totally isolationist.

[ulysses]

11. a purely mental exercise

We won't, and I don't see it as a progressive or even moderate position that we should.

[Steven_S]

12. That sucking sound your hear...

besides this foreign policy idea is the sound of a power vacuum.

I don't have the answers to these crises but this isn't it.

[Walt Starr]

13. A lot of it depends

1) No way. That would have disastrous consequences.
2) In some places, that would be good, in others it would have disastrous consequences/
3) I don't have a problem with this one.
4) We should dump about 90% of it. Most of it is buying off dictators or fascist regimes, IMO.
5) We have to be involved as more than a superpower propping up one side of the conflict before we could actually "withdraw" from it. IMO, withdrawal completely would be preferable than the lopsided view we have on it.

[Dr Fate]

14. No. I oppose the way Bush went into Iraq though...

But creating a terrorist-breeding power vaccum NOW, like Poppy did in Afghanistan is not the answer.

It's too bad Bush/media lied to us- we needed to take care of Saddam with UN and international support-

It's obvious that this "Coalition of the Willing" was a hoax- show me the MONEY and TROOPS from this so called coalition...

We need to get the UN back in Iraq ASAP- no one in the international community trusts Bush anymore after his repeated lies- so it will take a DEM prez. to make this happen...

[welshTerrier2]

15. Where do you get this stuff ??

why, after spending as much time on DU as you have, would you conclude that DU'ers are isolationists?

many of the Iraq threads talked about turning operations over to the U.N. ... before the IWR, many argued that we should not attack Iraq without U.N. authorization and participation ... and just because many oppose NAFTA and the WTO does not mean we're opposed to trade ...

i think american foreign and military policy has been abusive to many nations around the world and unfair to the american people as well ... i think we've used our military inappropriately ... and our intelligence agencies too ... but this does not mean I'm opposed to reasonable policies designed to help us keep the peace in this world, to aid impoverished nations or to protect our own country when it is genuinely threatened ...

when our policies are only self-serving and when we violate the rule of law to prop up dictators who may be supportive of american commercial interests, then yes, i say we should steer the ship in a new direction ...

the emphasis here is on global cooperation, not isolation ... if our interaction with the rest of the world is for the right purposes, then I'm not for isolationist foreign policies ... you seem to have assumed that because the left is critical of our foreign policy that isolationism is the only alternative ... i'm not sure why you would reach such an absurd conclusion ...

[Dr Fate]

16. I think he is being hypothetical...

...and just garnering various responses...

[welshTerrier2]

17. perhaps so

i guess my point was that it should be more than clear that there is no reason to test this hypothesis ...

thousands upon thousands of posts on DU would attest to the fact that the hypothesis is false ...