North Carolina poll

[pruner]

Edwards 43 (37)
Dean 25 (23)
Kerry 9 (17)
Gephardt 7 (8)
Clark 6 (3)
Lieberman 5 (6)
Kucinich 1 (1)
Sharpton 1 (0)
Braun 0 (0)

MoE +/- 4.5%. (September results in parenthesis)

numbers from http://www.pollingreport.com

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2003/11/16/202950/10

[Endangered Specie]

1. not much of a shock there

it is Edwards (and my) home state, and another poll shows hes lose to W* 52-42

[0rganism]

2. Was the other poll you mentioned national or NC only?

Not that I'd expect anyone to run very strong against shrub in the south, but 52-42 is quite the spread for a home-stater.

[pruner]

5. it was the same poll

North Carolina only.

[Endangered Specie]

19. it was NC poll

done by the News and Observer (aka the Noisy Disturber)

[arewethereyet]

3. Clark not looking so hot in this big military state

he seems to be fizzling overall though

[Renew Deal]

8. He is up in 3 national polls

last week. He was winning in one and he is fizzling. I like your logic.

[arewethereyet]

12. looking at pollingreport.com

he's declined in two, up in one and did not have a strong showing in the Marist poll.

he came in with a pretty big splash and some retrenching was bould to occur but he does not seem to be building at least to me.

and what press there is seems to like Dean better.

[IranianDemocrat]

4. Why is Clark good in SC but not NC??

?

[Renew Deal]

6. Because this is Edwards state.

I can't imagine anyone is going to beat him there exept Bush. That's why Edwards is a liability. He won't even win his home state.

[IranianDemocrat]

9. I can't believe I forgot that.

Duhh! Stupid me!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

10. Jesus. So why would anyone in their right mind think Dean could win NC?

or any other "red" state for that matter? I think this is proof how when a liberal Democrat is "tagged" he can't make it in these states.
At least Kerry's got the arguable fact that he's a veteran and very keen to foreign policy on his side.

[pruner]

13. who's talking about Dean winning NC?

Kerry sure does look strong there.

:eyes:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

15. Here's an example:

Count on Dean sweeping most red states

I mean....Give me a break! .... :crazy:

[pruner]

16. that post seems to be referring to the primaries… not the gen election

this poll pretty clearly shows that Dean has a better shot at winning NC than Kerry does.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

17. Read the thread post - it's about electoral college strategy

and I'm not saying Kerry could win NC. I'm saying he would do better in Iowa and other similar states than Dean in a general election.

[AP]

14. Not only would he not win, Republicans wouldn't even have

to spend money in NC.

[Hep]

20. Whatever!

Clinton lost to Bush I in 1992 by less than 1 percent. We routinely vote D senators in, representatives, and traditionally have had a D state legislature and governor.

Our problem is crossover vote. We can solve that. AP, please don't ever move here.

[Hep]

21. Dean can win NC

Now that we're clear on that...

[AP]

11. Clinton was losing by 15-20 points in Ark. 1 year out.

Losing by 10 pts 1 year out in a state which hasn't gone Democrat since 76 (?) isn't so bad. In fact it's pretty good.

There was lots of data in this poll that was good for Edwards. Some of his approval numbers went from the 30s to about 50. Edwards is heading in the right direction in NC, which is a state which has picked up EVs, I think.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

7. Because SC is a big veterans' state

and Kerry's tuned them into Bush's evil ways. Actually, McCain's getting screwed by W in 2000 is what set them off. Kerry just made sure they got all the facts.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

18. Bad news for Dean threads die here at DU

tsk tsk.