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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:32 AM Original message |
Dean is no McGovern..... |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. I see Dean more like the 'Democratic Reagan' than McGovern |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think the McGovern criticism... |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. But why is he a loser? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Check post 10. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. huh? where does that come from? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I wasn't name calling. |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. perception by whom? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Dean can win |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. I agree |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's a shame that being "McGovern-esque" is a pejorative term. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. i know, it's amazing how much of that meme is being floated by |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 08:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. 72 election results easy to explain. $1,000 a year to everybody? |
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Dr Satan (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. yikes |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. if he was like McGovern, then it'd make you guys happy because he'd |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No one here wants him to lose against Bush. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. ehhh....what if Dean gets the nomination--what then? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Dean '04 baby. |
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TexasPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. Dean didn't help himself on this |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think there are some Democrats who want Dean to lose badly |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. good point |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I do not want to see Dean lose to Junior. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 09:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
51. That means you want junior to lose to Dean. |
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Dr Satan (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I want Dean to win |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. he never said he was like mcgovern....only his opponents did. |
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TexasPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. the way i read the quote was... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. the difference is that McGovern had a shitty organization |
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DemPopulist (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 05:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. McGovern did NOT have a shitty organization |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. and of course he couldn't have been joking |
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TexasPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. i agree completely |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Am I the only McGovern fan here lol |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. No John, I like him too |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. yeah, on the upside, Dean's running the best organized campaign |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I have this gut feeling that Dean is going to win big |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I was being a wise ass honestly but you get the picture |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. My point John, is that McGovern wasn't a radical |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I knew the Eagleton debacle was the final nitch |
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jeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Nixon was a moderate in all domestic policies |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. but a hawk on foriegn eh |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 05:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Nixon was a moderate (a bit liberal, even) in his domestic policies, but.. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Nope, you're not, John |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:55 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. lol I know |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 05:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. I wish I had had that opportunity... |
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Melodybe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Dean will win |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I dont doubt hes electable |
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Melodybe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 04:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I like Kucinich |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 04:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. A lot of people like Kucinich |
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Melodybe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 04:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Dean is stronger |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. umm Kucinich is older than Dean by 2 years |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. really? |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 05:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. An unfortunate answer... |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 05:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. No, you're not... |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. another dumb thing Dean said |
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drfemoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
32. Additional Links on DU thread |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
49. Let's be clear on this. George McGovern had a number of issues that Dean |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 12:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. that's true..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
54. That's for sure. McGovern is a WAR HERO! |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 12:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. So IS Kerry..... |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. Go Dean! , but its not what we think, its what America thinks |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. um.... |
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Hep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Lots! |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
60. :kick: |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. Only one prob with Dean but it could be a killer... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. he's good at making the argument that |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Oh is THAT why? |
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aldian159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Absolutly |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. There aren't many simalarities |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Dean survived the republican propaganda machine in Vermont |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I Don't See The Critique |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 03:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I know, and that's why it's vitally important to have a huge |
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