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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:54 AM
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Poll question: Attitude towards Edwards?
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 02:07 AM by AP
Describe your feelings about Edwards:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:55 AM
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1. didnt have much of an opinion but he seems to be a good guy imo
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:59 AM
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4. Same here.
He's always been in my top-3..

(1) Clark
(2) Kerry
(3) Edwards
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:00 AM
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5. yea
I think hes in mine as well. lol officially I only have my #1 candiate down on paper and maybe my second.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:56 AM
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2. how about
i liked him ok, and i still like him ok, but he's still not my guy
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Vikingking66 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:58 AM
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3. I think not enough options
I like the guy, I think he needs more executive experience and a trimmer message, I think he'd made an excellent VP, but I wouldn't vote for him in the Presidential primaries.

That's not really a category.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:16 AM
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6. none of the above
I liked him all along, but not in my top 3.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:23 AM
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7. Edwards's campaign is a sinking ship
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:32 AM
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9. Actually, it's about all boats being lifted by a rising tide...
really.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:32 AM
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10. pipe dream
no wait...dream
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:35 AM
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12. Don't change your log-in name once Edwards starts winning.
Because I want to make sure I can say I told you so.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:41 AM
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18. hahahahahaahahha
Keep me posted. And dont hold your breath.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:36 AM
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13. I agree...
When Edwards was first elected back in 1998, I said yippee..a potential President. When he began his campaign for President I thought, this will probably be my guy. Then came his votes for the IWR, now everytime I visit his webpage and read his lame agenda...I prey DEAR GOD DON'T LET THIS GUY BE NOMINATED! :scared:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:38 AM
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14. Burr, we have a 125+ post thread where you can barely
put together simply a coherent argument why you think Dean's better than Edwards on tax policy.

I have no idea what gives you the authority to call his agenda "lame."
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:40 AM
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17. Ask him which candidate he supports?
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 02:41 AM by SahaleArm
I bet you already know the answer:).
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 AM
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21. thanks for your kind observations...
I don't need your authority to call something that is lame..lame.

As far as making coherent arguments...try easing up on the funky medications, then things may seem more coherant. :hippie:
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:50 AM
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23. lol
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:23 AM
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8. I wish he were 'deeper'
Or something. I think he's really sincere in working for families against corporations. I think he'd do great things for this country in that regard. He's got to be intelligent, I wish we'd see some of that in-depth analysis that a President has to have. It's simply got to be there!!! That's my only disappointment with him, I really expected him to be doing better by now. Of course, he is in NC & SC. If they got the attention of IA and NH, maybe the media would be calling Edwards the frontrunner! Considering the electoral votes of those two states, maybe he ought to be given the title of frontrunner anyway!

(A Real President, you know, the one whose decisions affect every human on the planet?)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:34 AM
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11. It's a slow burn, with Edwards.
Supporters worth having don't blow like reeds in the wind.

I suspect that once Edwards converts a supporter, they don't go off and flirt with other candidates.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:39 AM
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15. He Likes the Patriot Act
doesn't have a problem with it ... I think he stands alone on that issue (in the Dem field) ..

This issue has crossed party lines, rw/lw lines, religious/non religious lines .. Americans don't like it . yet John Edward does.

http://www.bordc.org/
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:41 AM
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19. No he doesn't.
MR. RUSSERT: Some Democrats have a different view: “Joe Biden of Delaware called criticism of the Patriot Act. Dianne Feinstein, (Democrat, California), mounted a strong defense of the Patriot Act, saying she believes that there is substantial uncertainty and perhaps some ignorance about what this bill actually does do and how it’s employed. ...I have never had a single abuse of the Patriot Act reported to me.” Have you?
SEN. EDWARDS: To me, personally? No. But the independent inspector general in the Justice Department has found 34 credible complaints under the Patriot Act. I think in the first—if I’ve got the timing right, the first six months of this year, I think it’s a serious issue. I respect Joe Biden and Dianne very much, but I think we know that there have been abuses, and the inspector general’s findings would show that.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:27 AM
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25. That's not true at all
Where do people get these crazy ideas.

Besides, you can rant about repealing the Patriot Act all you want and it's not going to happen. There's a whole big country out there and what they want are sensible laws enforced without violating civil rights. This Administration doesn't know how to do that. Ashcroft dug up an 1800's law to go after Greenpeace, it's obvious the abuses of the Patriot Act are his and his alone. Edwards would make the changes that need to be made, pull terrorist investigations out of the FBI, and make sure our civil rights are protected. He's a trial lawyer for chrissake, they live and breathe civil rights.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:35 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. no surprise
guess you didn't take a look at the link provided .
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lancemurdoch Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:39 AM
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16. Who is Edwards?
I never knew much about Edwards except he was from North Carolina. I had the other candidates pegged as

Gephardt - labor
Lieberman - DLC
Sharpton - black
Dean - early anti-war and bold, with a seeming liberal yuppie following
Kucinich - far left on (virtually) everything
Clark - came in late. People think perhaps general could beat Bush.

Some of the candidates were vaguer. Where does Kerry fit in? I'm not really sure - so I ignored him. Edwards was like this as well, although he was behind more than Kerry in terms of recognition.

Labor is behind Gephardt so I'm behind Gephardt. And he has done a lot for labor over the years. Dean and Kerry have picked up one or two labor endorsements like it's a big deal compared to Gephardt's dozens.

I think "identity", especially in terms of race, is important overall, but it seems to me that labor is the only backbone possible that has ever worked for the left, and a labor-centered base of the left with connections to African-Americans and so forth is what will do it. I mean, African-American workers have the problems of other workers to begin with, so labor takes care of that, plus special attention to their specific problems.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 AM
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20. Identity?
Where does Kerry fit in? I'm not really sure - so I ignored him

Why vote for identity over substance? The substance of Kerry's agenda is progressive which is well reflected in his record.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:49 AM
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22. Need I say anything?
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:53 AM
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24. say what?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:36 AM
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27. Edwards also managed to miss votes
for the anti-abortion bill .. but he came out with a statment later condemning it ... it wasn't important enough to vote?

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:51 AM
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28. Like him....after Clark he's my favorite....
DemEx
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:01 AM
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29. He's a distant third for me.
Like all the Congressional candidates(except Kucinich), he voted for the IWR so I don't like him.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:45 AM
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30. I just broke a tie (liked him then and more now)
:)
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:58 AM
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31. I think
that he is really shooting to be the next Attorney General (being, that he is a lawyer and all). I would like Edwards there (anyone but Ashkkkroft)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. Really? I think Dean is really shooting for SG
if the point here is to belittle a candidate's campaign.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:49 AM
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39. Dean would be an incredible SG
And thanks for making yet another thread about him!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #39
41. certainly more appropriate
and consistent with his training and experience than Commander in Chief.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:31 AM
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43. Sure
which I guess would be why Kerry should stay in the legislative branch.

Tell me, please. How many years did Dean practice medicine vs. how many years he served as governor?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:04 AM
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33. He's all image,
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 10:06 AM by GreenArrow
with no depth and less substance, a purely political and self seeking creature.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:15 AM
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34. Personally
I preferred the original version. ;-)
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:20 AM
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35. so did I
but I thought I'd play nice. :)
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:22 AM
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36. If it weren't for his vote on the IWR...
I'd have no reason to dislike him. But I have to put him in the same boat with Gephardt, Kerry, and Lieberman.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:25 AM
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37. Edwards is The Man.... in 2008/12
He's likeable, has good policy... and it's all "written down on paper" (heh, heh). He's in a good position for a VP or Cabinet Post next term, and will have his solid name recognition and resume primed for him to kick butt on a Edwards/Clinton or Clinton/Edwards tickee next time around.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:49 AM
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38. Other: Completely indifferent
Doesn't inspire me at all.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:53 AM
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40. what kind of rigged marketing-style survey is this?
Sounds like something a campaign would come up with...

How about "likeable and mostly harmless. Good-looking innocuity, charming also-ran..." ?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:23 AM
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42. Neither
Voted for him. I like him ok except for the war vote. He wants the military vote in NC. I would take him more serious if he could win our state against Bush.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:36 AM
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44. Edwards is my 1st choice.
I believe he could win it all. However, even if he does not win the democratic nomination, I believe he has something up his sleeve. He has opted out of another term as Senator, which does not make sense unless he already has some kind of promise that he will be the nominee or will have a position in the next administration. Time will tell.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:39 AM
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45. I like him
he's realistic and appeals to the base.
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