I'm so sick of all the bashing in this place

[artr2]

so I have decided to see how many of you mindless Dean haters I can put on my ignore function. I have tried to listen to your arguements but I am just tired of the mindless bashing and I could care less what you have to say to me. I can listen to rational arguements with facts & links to back it up but if you don't have any facts, screw you! - right to ignore. I am tired of having my blood pressure go up by reading bullshit posts. I've got about 20 people on ignore now. I wonder if there is an upper limit, well I'm gonna find out !

[slinkerwink]

1. I know.....I just hope those people can suck it up when Dean gets

the nomination.....:hug:

[Catch22Dem]

4. That's cool with me...even though he's not my first choice

But what disturbs me is the number of Dean supporters who say if Dean ISN'T the nominee they won't support the person who IS. In fairness, I've seen this from some DK supporters too. I hope that isn't true. I hope we all get behind the eventual nominee. Then again, I hoped for world peace a long time ago and you see how that's workin' out.

[frustrated_lefty]

10. *raises hand*

Yes, I support Dean. When it comes time to vote though, it's anybody but Bush.

I'll vote for my partie's nominee in 2004.

[Renew Deal]

2. If you can read this...

I have seen all kinds of things written about all the candidates, especially mine (Clark). I have yet gotten to the point of ignoring people. I don't want to do it because I feel it ruins the experience. Now there are several posters here that I don't take seriously (check the Clark threads). So I say accept what's out there and don't take it seriously.

[Catch22Dem]

3. right on

and I bet if we got together we'd name the same 5 people in order. Beyond that, I don't know, but I can guarantee 5.

[specimenfred1984]

5. Me too, but 1 out of 3 people are jerks!

who don't know any better way to communicate. After 100+ years of propaganda, we're lucky that we can even think anymore, much less talk or write.

I'm for Dean and I've been bashed twice. Once by an author and another by someone calling themselves a democrat.

Some poor woman got bashed the other night when her cat died. There's no other reason than 1/3rd of people are jerks.

[nyrnyr1994]

6. While I like Dean...

The one I'm voting for next November is the candidate with the (D) next to his name!

[leftofthedial]

7. this won't make you feel better, but

I like Dean. I'll support him if nominated.

[drfemoe]

8. Providing thoughtful rational discussion

is not encouraged on those threads. All facts not in agreement with the preset anti-dean agenda are ignored.

It is also as though once someone posts the latest spin/lie/flame bait, Deanies are supposed to flock to the post and try to straighten them out. But due to the above mentioned ignore all facts practice, our time is wasted. ..and blood pressure .. don't do it. Just because they throw another bowl of spaghetti on the wall, don't feel like you have to rush in and clean it up. It's their mess.

We're rubber they're glue .. sing that .. :)

:hi: howdy last chance . welcome to DU !!

[Dr Satan]

9. I have some good advice

Don't be emotionally attached to any politician.
The rest is gravy.

[Rowdyboy]

11. If I took every cheap slam against my candidate personally

I'd be a wreck. Chill.

[Maddy McCall]

13. I agree. Being too sensitive. It's an internet forum, for chrissake!

n/t

[drfemoe]

20. You've given me hay a few times for writing about

your guy.

I'm going to do a survey just to see who starts what how many times .. a scorecard. It'll take a little time to sort it out.

These are a few examples of a lot of what I see :

Clark guy:
Dean's signing of the civil unions bill as governor

Clark guy:
Anger is a gift, but to whom? (rnc tape of Dean)(which has been posted several times . even by me)

Kerry guy:
Dean supporters, I have a question for you...

Kerry guy:
Dean on CNN: None of them asked questions BEFORE they voted on IWR

Edwards guy:
Ire not enough, Edwards says (alluding to Dean)

... etc.

There used to be a Clark poster who posted a LBN related to Clark every three hours!!! That was an abuse of the forum, imo.

I've noticed (in life) that when someone is telling someone else that they are too sensitive, there is a pretty good chance the first someone is acting insensitively. It's okay to be insensitive, as long as you are not the one getting hurt. Otherwise, you might say, just bring it on and see how much abuse (lies, wild goose chases, back-hand "questions", fuzzy logic, fuzzy debate, bait-n-switch, pna* propaganda) I can ENJOY by being so THICK SKINNED.

Clearly, the candidates set the tone. That's why it's so hard for Clark's (& Kuchinich's) teams to come right out and be as mean, as say Kerry's team. C & K teams also seem to be more open minded, with a sense of fair play and willingness to participate in real dialog than say, a Kerry player, who, to stereotype, is basically looking for a punching bag.

.. tbc ..

[burr]

12. I know how you feel!

My fear is that it will only get worse during the primaries.

As far a the ignore feature goes, I also pick up around twenty after a few weeks. My solution..I forgive my fellow strongly willed Democrats every few months and wipe the slate completely clean. Then, in another month, a different variety of 20 posters end up briefly on my ignore list.

[jpgray]

14. Look at the Kerry threads, and imagine how they feel

Or better yet, look at what few positive Lieberman threads have graced DU. Dean fans have it easy.

[RandomUser]

15. I know the feeling

Tonight, for the first time ever, I put someone on ignore. For a long time, I resisted the urge to put anyone on ignore, and I hope I won't have to put a second person on ignore. Unfortunately, the person I put on ignore happened to be a Dean supporter. I like and respect many Dean supporters, such as Paidrag. But the most disruptive and uncivil ones I've come across are also Dean supporters.

I'm just as sick of the bashing as you are, and I wish they'd post positive things about Dean instead of bashing Clark. We're probably all a bit subjective though.

Question for you, artr2 -- since you're sick of the bashing, have you put the Dean supporters who bash other candidates on ignore too?

Believe it or not, there are Dean supporters who hate and bash Clark every bit as much as you accuse "Dean haters" of bashing Dean. I'm trying to really hard not to put a second person on ignore. So far, after many months, there's only one person on ignore.

I suspect it will get worse before it gets better. It won't get better till the nomination is over.

[foreigncorrespondent]

16. I really don't...

...care who gets it. I just want Bush* to be out next year. If Dean is the man, then good on him, if Clark is the man, then good on him, etc, etc, etc.

[TreasonousBastard]

17. OK, let's try this...

I'm not a mindless Dean Hater, I just don't think all that much of him-- he's OK, but he doesn't walk on water. He's kinda down on the list, but not too far.

I'll vote for him if he gets the nod, but I suspect the propaganda machine will make mincemeat out of him. Let's face it, it's not my vote that counts-- mine's already a guaranteed ABB. There's about 20-30 million others out there who have to be swayed one way or the other.

If his supporters are thin skinned enough to get upset about what's said on this board, they'll be positively suicidal in the general election when the pros get a whack at him with the gloves off.

It's not really Dean who pisses me off, it's some of his supporters who troll to start fights.

[quinnox]

18. Dean has the most support on DU

besides Clark, which I would put at second most.

Every day, Deanatics breathlessly post every utterance of Dean to here, as if it was the ten commandments. Someone said "Dean supporters have it easy here". I can't put it any better.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. Most support....

or loudest support?

[mouse7]

21. Dean people can be every bit as bad

I tried to post a legit discussion about the damage Dean is causing on the Campaign Finance Reform issue by pulling out of public financing.

Dean supporters called me a freeper, Rove, and a dozen other things because I dared to criticise their chosen messiah, and refused to admit documented facts such as the redistribution of wealth over the last 20 years because it was inconvenient at that moment.

There's a bunch of Dean supporters that act as if Dean is some religious figure. That is just silly. If you are one of them, feel free to block me. I don't need the quasi-religious ranting on my threads anyway.

[CWebster]

22. artr2, don't let their bullying get the better of ya

They are out in full force because they are threatened and pulling the stops. The Republican onslaught will crush them, but we have been tested. Stand firm.

[bleedingheart]

23. I do my best not to post to bashing thread unless they are bashing Repubs

I want to win in 2004 no matter who the candidate is.

This bashing of every candidate could just tear people apart and end up handing the election to *.

I respect other people's choices for the primary and won't spend time trying to demean them for their choice.

[Democrats unite]

24. Putting someone on ignore how freeperish!

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[ScreamingMeemie]

25. Locking

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