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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:55 AM
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What if Clark picked Powell for his running mate?
Now, First of all, I know Powell hates what he is doing when it comes down to Iraq. It is always the soldiers that are reluctant to go to war. I also know that he has been beaten down by the * administration and forced to play their game. He's been fuding with Condi, Rummy, and Rove. He isn't viewed as an insider and I know KKKarl put out the rumors about Powell getting fired to reign him in.

I'm almost positive Clark would never ask Powell and I'm almost positive Powell would never take the job. But it is a valid question and I'd like to see what you guys think.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:01 PM
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1. that would be a travesty.
Clark is not my #1 guy, but this would move him to below Lieberman on my list. Powell is a self-aggrandizing criminal in the service of criminals. He belongs in jail, not in power.
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MariaS Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:07 PM
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2. I am supporting the General
but if he was to have someone/anyone from this current administration as his runningmate I would feel betrayed and would no longer be able to trust him. My personal opinion but I want nothing that was tainted by the current Administration to have any part in our new administration whoever that might be. Powell is no innocent in all this. He stood before the UN and lied and I never once saw a gun to his head. He is as poisonous and corrupt as any of them. Just take a look at the FCC and see how it is a Powell family affair involved with this Administration.

Maria
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:08 PM
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3. I would not support Clark, then....
Powell, (no total fault on his part due to the Bush Administration's underlying desire to withdraw from the U.N.) has been a disaster at Secretary of State. Besides there are lots of really good democrats that would make a good running mate for Clark if he gets the nomination, and that's a big IF right now without a single vote being cast.

Dean - Outstanding grass roots democratic support. Brings Labor, youth, people concerned about Heath Care, and almost every College Campus in the country.

Graham - Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida.... and 27 electoral votes.

Edwards - North Carolina, and maybe Louisiana, Florida, and South Carolina. (A solid win paritally in the South running mate). However, there has been some trickery afoot lately in the Edwards camp that I belive turns Clark off to Edwards.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:08 PM
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4. That would be a great Republican team NT
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:09 PM
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5. Dean not powell
Clark / Dean would be unstoppable
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:09 PM
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6. It's not going to happen
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 12:10 PM by Spazito
Clark is too smart for that. He will pick someone that is not of a military background.

Edited to add the word NOT.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:09 PM
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7. Colon Bowell is a disgrace....
And Clark won't pick him.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:11 PM
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8. He would lose
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:11 PM
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9. At one time I would have been good with that...
Sadly, Powell has marginalized himself by being smirk's lapdog.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:12 PM
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10. How about Powell's link to the My Lai (Viet Nam) massacre cover-up?
Many people on this forum have posted about it...Apparently he was instrumental in covering it up.....
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:14 PM
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15. Wow, I didn't know about that. That makes me sad...I thought
He would have been the first Black candidate of any party to get a nomination and be first on the ticket.
Not anymore.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:12 PM
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11. Powell is the Bushevik General Jodl
It would never happen.

Plus, like the original Jodl, Colon Foul would never betray his Bushevik Masters (this is not a slur on African-Americans...people of all races follow blidnly the dicatates of their Bushevik Masters).
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:12 PM
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12. watch his supporters evaporate
poof
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:14 PM
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13. I would question Clark's sanity...
if he pulled a stunt that stupid.
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:14 PM
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14. Assuming Clark got the Nomination...
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 12:14 PM by Patriot_Spear
If Clark picked Powell as VP- I'd give up and quit the party.

Powell is one of the reasons we're in the mess we're in. You can't wash dirt.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:17 PM
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16. bad, bad, bad, bad idea!
I think a lot of people would be reluctant to vote for a ticket that is fully military. I never would have thought I would vote for a military man as my president, but I had never realized what sort of deplorable condition our country could be in, and how we might need someone with that international experience to dig us out. And I feel that Clark is incredibly different from most career military men (not like I know any). He has stated time after time after time that war should be used only as a last resort. I really feel that he has seen SO much through his career that he would do whatever it takes to avert war if at all possible. He HAS the diplomatic experience, he HAS been able to form and work with REAL coalitions (not pretend ones like the current)... he has dealt with leaders of countries, including looking dictators in the eye and telling them that they'll be really, REALLY sorry if they don't back down. And he has backed it up.

I also think that the emphasis on Clark needs to include his expertise in economics. He has a PhD in Economics, Politics and Philosophy and taught Economics at West Point. He has been involved in the business world, and knows how to balance budgets (did it for the military for years). Bringing another military man on board for VP would completely restrict the focus to the military experience - and I don't think a word would be mentioned about domestic issues.

ALSO, I am rather disgusted with Powell, and I wonder if Clark might be, as well. Clark talks about the responsibility to stand up to your superiors and tell them when you think they're wrong. You still need to follow orders, in the end, but it is your patriotic duty to tell your commander when he's wading into deep sh*t. Where was Powell in this regard??? I DO think he knew that we were headed towards hell in that handbasket, yet he went to the UN and to the American people and lied his stinkin' face off.

So, in a short answer, BAD!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:18 PM
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17. I would drop Clark like a hot potato
no thanks, I'll pass on Mai Lai Powell.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:23 PM
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18. I will not vote for him if he chooses powell
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:41 PM
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19. It would be a military overload
He needs a strong civillian running with him, not another general. Plus, Powell is too corrupted by BushCo.
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:44 PM
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20. i think i died and ended up in
free republic hell! colin powell? you can't be serious!
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:02 PM
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21. Two generals to run the government? Sounds too South American.
That would be the worst thing that ever happened. Even worse than Bush!

You'd have an administration dominated by the military culture with no moderating civilian influences. Disaster!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:09 PM
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22. Sorry, my fellow Clarkie. It is not a valid question...
I think Clark knows that Powell deserves to be investigated and prosecuted for treason along with the rest of the bushistas.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:16 PM
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23. Kind of a ridiculous question....
... on several levels. But lets just cover some of the most obvious. Clark would never be that stupid, even if it were an option, which it isn't.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:17 PM
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24. ditto. n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:26 PM
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25. Bad scenario. The "good" scenario would be along these lines...
Powell gets fed up, quits his job, joins the Democratic Party and runs for the Senate. Clark says nice things about Powell, and chooses Dean as VP.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:34 PM
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26. Remember when Powell was being courted
by Democrats & Republicans - the Republicans thought he was going to run for office as a Democrat and the trashing started - just like the R is trashing Clark now. Any military man that runs as a Democrat is going get trashed (McCain wasn't even a Democrat) and they have no shame - Max Cleland, as an example.
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