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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:12 PM
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O'Really takes on Howard Dean
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 12:22 PM by La_Serpiente
(I think this is what he will say tonight)

Will the Real Howard Dean Please Stand Up?

Former governor of Vermont got a couple of big Labor endorsements this week. And many in the press have already anointed him President Bush's challenger next year. But it's hard to get a handle on Dr. Dean. The NRA, for example, loves him, but so does the far left. How does that happen?

Since Dr. Dean doesn't like one-on-one interviews, I have to say I don't know much about the guy. Most of the other Democratic candidates have entered the No Spin Zone, but it is apparently too much for Dean. But I do know this, Dean is against parental notification laws (search) regarding abortions for minors. He is on the record as saying that 12-year old girls should be allowed to have abortions without telling their parents, even if the notification laws provide protection for kids who are raped, the victims of incest or other sexual abuse. Even if.

Now that kind of position can't be changed. That's a defining position. And it is directly against what the overwhelming majority of Americans believe. So if I'm running against Dean in the South or the Midwest, that's all I have to say. He's immediately put on the defensive. Allowing children to have abortions without telling the parents is simply unacceptable in this society.

more...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103261,00.html

try the link now.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:16 PM
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1. I really hope Dean never enters the No Spin Zone
O'Really isn't that important that he needs to be kowtowed to.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:18 PM
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2. Amen
Anyone botherd by his not appearing can't vote in the D primary anyway.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:38 PM
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9. Really
Why add to the moron's "credibility"?
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alexwcovington Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:19 PM
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3. Bill O'Reilly is the closest Fox News has to a journalist
How Pathetic.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:15 PM
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23. Hey! He won a Peabody! He said so!
n/t
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:19 PM
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4. Had problems with the link
Please check...
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:20 PM
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5. This is my favorite part
The reason the doctor won't come on and do an interview with me is that I'd ask him that question and a number of others, and he would have to define his positions. It's obvious Dean does not want to do that.


He said this the day after Howard Dean was on Newnight with Aaron Brown with Wolf Blitzer as the host.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:21 PM
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6. Why is this posted?
Increasingly the line is blurring with Clark supporters use of Republican talking points, Republican media sources and even official Republican party sites,


Something stinks!
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:44 PM
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11. cWebster... I think you busted the snake!
What a transparent, cheap shot post! Who is this guy, a shill for the spin zone or just anti Dean?
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:32 PM
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18. You smell it too?
My good graces towards Clark has been holding my tongue on this, but it's getting looser....


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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:01 PM
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22. Really, it's just one giant conspiricy out to get Dean
The DLC, DNC, Bush-Rove, Kerry, Clark, Geppy, Edwards, Sharpton, Kucinch, and the Smoking man are behind it:evilgrin:

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:22 PM
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7. That ought to be Good. I hope Dean wipes the floor with O'Liely
Dean will be able to use his style to undermine O'Lilely. I think if Dean played O'liely...drew him in and let O'Liely look rabid and crazy. Dean would score some points. It would make Dean look like hes focused and that his Anger has a purpose wher O'Liely's does not. Furthermore O'Liely has a broad audience. That will be a great boost to his campaign. This is good for Dean. His campaign staff is AWESOME!

He can defend his position on the children abortion issue. He can take a stance that the child be afforded a legal gardian to determine the prosecution of the criminal who impregnated the child. The surgery should be performed and then the parents are notified after the fact. Health and Safety of the child should come first, beginning prosecution of the statutory rapist, and care and well being of the child with the parents. I'd be afraid the parents would beat the child or that the pregnancy occured by a male relative which could endanger the childs life.

He can get O'Liely easy on that cuz hes a Dr. and it is the right stance.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:30 PM
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8. Aw, poor little Bill!
Howard Dean doesn't want to go on his irrelevant little program, so Bill huffs and puffs and blows himself up to make it look like Dean is a-scared of him. Why doesn't Bill have Al Franken on his show? Or have a debate with Al in a setting where Bill doesn't have absolute control of the cameras, the microphones, and the studio?

Would someone please cut some cheese to go with Bill's whine? Never mind, I'll do it myself: <Poot!>
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:43 PM
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10. I doubt if many of the candidates have gone on with
O'Reilly. I never heard about it anyway.




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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:58 PM
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21. Kerry has been on in the past, several times...and O'Really shuts up
and treats him with respect. Kerry has been excellent against him. He just is totally unfazed and doesn't take any crap. That's one of the reasons why in the beginning, I was leaning very strongly towards Kerry. Since the Iraq thing, he's dropped to about third on my list.
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:49 PM
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12. O'Really made the same kind of comments about the Canadian PM
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 12:50 PM by lefty_mcduff
Claimed Chretien was a coward when he wouldn't go on the 'Massive Spin Zone' (to 'clarify' Canada's resistance to the Iraq debacle). Could it be, and I'm reaching here, that the significance of O'Really's show is all in his head?
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:57 PM
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13. If a candidate can't standup to O'Reilly or Tweety,
how can anyone believe they could stand up to Sharon, Putin, Kim, or any other world leader.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:21 PM
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16. Wha?
That's an odd line to draw! I would expect anyone who can stand up to Sharon, Putin, Kim, or any other world leader would be above talking to O'Reilly anyway. It's not like you see world leaders whoing up on his show.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:24 PM
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24. Oops, Dean will be taking on Tweety 12/1
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:42 PM
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26. I threw in Tweety for Kucinich, not Dean.
Sorry, I should have made that clear.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:03 PM
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28. Are Sharon, Putin,Kim or any other leader. Media whores like O`Reilly or
Tweety? Sharon,Putin,Kim are world leaders and deserve at least some respect. O`Reilly and Tweety are paid GOP chasers of Clinton`s crotch. And they serve their only purpose well. Which is to deceive the public. And the court appointed moron in Al Gore`s White House does plenty of that. So I see no need for any respectable canidate to waste there time with those morons. Bu$h can not even get Parliment to see him. They said no way. And I don`t blame them. They should not stoop so low as to take time out for a murderous usurper as Bu$h is.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 12:58 PM
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14. Forget O'Reilly
He is bringing himself down. He will be irrelevant by the 2004 election.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:00 PM
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15. It's not that Dean doesn't like one-on-one's...
it's just he doesn't like having one-on-one's with lying polemicists, that's all. Had no problem with Russert, but he's a different league, isn't he?
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:29 PM
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17. Dean would do great on O'Reilly as would any
of our candidates. I just don't really see it as any help to go on any of the Fox screaming shows. O'Reilly keeps saying (until this day) that Al Gore would have won (he did) had he gone on his show. He also tries to pretend his book is in competition with Hillary's - he's a joke.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 01:47 PM
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19. O'Reilly should be shunned (nt)
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:51 PM
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20. kick
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:38 PM
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25. Sorry, but I don't see your own opinion here. Just an RW speculation.
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 09:39 PM by mgdecombe
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"3. If you post an article or other published content which is from a conservative source or which expresses a traditionally conservative viewpoint, you must state your opinion about the piece and/or the issues it raises. "

edited to quote GD rule #3
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 09:59 PM
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27. Locking
3. If you post an article or other published content which is from a conservative source or which expresses a traditionally conservative viewpoint, you must state your opinion about the piece and/or the issues it raises.

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