Clark Interviewed on Fox

[TexasPatriot]

I just saw Clark interviewed on Fox, where the Fox reporter began to imply that Clark disrespected members of the military. Man did he get pissed off. Interesting to see the guy's fire - he practically got into a shouting match with the guy, and the anchor backtracked.

i dont think i'd want a general pissed off at me either.

[xultar]

1. Tell me more! Did his anger play well? What was your take

on his performance? Which candidate do you support?

[CWebster]

6. Anger?

What were the Republican talking points the Clark corps were using against Dean? His anger?

Here is a new trend in the Clark corps borg operation---they demand to know which candidate you support--almost in an a deliberate outing, demanding allegiance to the Queen. You are either with us or against us.

[Qutzupalotl]

9. It seemed like an innocent question to me.

:shrug:
Just starting conversation. Enthusiasm for your candidate is a good thing, up to a point, and I don't think the poster crossed that line.

[xultar]

16. Merci...I support Clark, I like Dean, Kucinich, Kerry and Sharpton

So if you ever see me post an attack...which you won't you'll know where I'm coming from.

People think it is ok to bash. But most bashers have an agenda for bashing or there would be no need to bash.

Get my point.

So if someone is gonna bash I think they ought to tell us who we support. Why is it you think we have to say and provide a link to conservative propaganda if we post it. Becaus they have an agenda and the context of their comments should be reviewed as such.

[CWebster]

22. In other words

we are so partisan that we must draw lines around each other? Sometimes the issues surpass partisan allegiance. On another thread some fool is ragging on me for not demonstrating the proper goose-step behind the Democratic party. This is the level some people operate on and there is no point in reasoning beyond that. It is like Nationalism... Some folks just can't see beyond it.

[quinnox]

13. No, the with us or against us routine

I have seen is used by Deanatics more than anything else.

It's as if some buy Howard's hype, and think he is the only true Democrat come to save the party. It's smoke and mirrors.

[xultar]

17. I've seen it used by wingnuts and * also!!!

[vi5]

15. Why? Aren't we supposed to build candidates up....

as oppossed to tearing them down? Aren't people told on here by certain groups of people that rather than criticizing MY candidate you should tell us who you support and why?

Interesting how when that tactic is turned around it doesn't go down so well.

Good god, if I had to choose a candidate based on their supporters I would be one of the apathetic non-voting masses because I haven't seen one group on this here board that doesn't have a good chunk of people acting like 15 year old kids. I won't even bring up the fact that a recent age poll on here revealed more than a few offenders as actually being 15 year old kids.

[xultar]

19. AMEN!! Our candidates deserve supporters who do not tarnish

their reputations. That is why I call on all Clarkies to respect the Generals cause and to behave in a manner that will not tarnish his image. (Clarkies already do) I hope that the supporters for other candidates do the same for their candidate.

We will not win this thing by alienating anyone.

Why do KKKarls work for him? Make KKKarl work for the tear down.

[Kahuna]

20. Please stop. You embarrass yourself..

everytime you interject yourself into a Clark thread.

[Name removed]

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[xultar]

28. Hum, now that's what I call a liberal

:nuke:

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[Bertrand]

34. lol

you're imploding.

[CWebster]

38. I'm fine, thanks

And I'll tell you what, when the day comes, I promise not to gloat.

[xultar]

41. Gloat, you mean Dean winning the nomination....I'll help ya gloat

I'm a gracious loser. That's why I'm not going to be rude to anyone. You'll never know whom you'll be supporting after the nomination process. Hey maybe we'll be standing on the same street corner sportin the same t-shirts and hats for our candidate handing out flyers or something.

[Bertrand]

44. Ill tell you what

if Dean does win the nomination (which i at first didnt mind the idea of, but with every day im really starting to dislike him and the campaign he has run) but loses to Bush, i will be here to voice my opinion on how the Democratic party chose to kill itself over a fake populist rather than beat Bush.

[xultar]

37. Yes, I love Horses, Especially the Trojan ones...not the ones

in the foil wrappers though.
:loveya:

[xultar]

46. BTW I'm just playin with ya...Born again Democrat...Surely u jest

I'm a Single Professional Black Woman...I'm tough and you can introduce me as General SMACKDOWNS greatest supporter. You wanna talk about broad appeal. I know plenty of BLACK FOLK who like General SMACKDOWN.

So, becareful of who you decide to accuse of being a...what was it...a born again DEMOCRAT there may be SISTAHS in the house.

[Bread and Circus]

53. That's your problem, your whole premise is that Clark is a....

Trojan Horse.

You start from an unsubstantiated position so you have
to go to extremes to prove it. Then, in the eyes of many,
you discredit yourself.

If you want to stick with the meme that
Clark is an inexperienced politician and that his
campaign started shaky, run with it.

It you want to convince people that "Clark is a Trojan
Horse", you start and end on shakey ground.

I am not in your face and I think you can say what you
want. Go for it. But don't cry if no one believes you.

[Bertrand]

29. He's not forcing you to stop

he's asking you to stop because he believes that youre embarrasing yourself by popping up in threads with a pro-clark theme and attacking him, and I agree.

[CWebster]

32. No one is stopping you.

And i will post where I choose, bully boy.

[xultar]

39. So here we are and ur gonna box us all

May I ask which candidate you support?

[Demobrat]

33. Been to the Clark Blog lately?

Gee, I wonder where they all migrated to?

[TexasPatriot]

12. well

First, I like Clark (so read what you want into my note), but I like to think I'm pretty rational about it all.

As to the details, the anchor was quoting from MTP, and asked if Clarks comment calling the actions in Iraq a sideshow was a mistake... Clark gave a good answer, saying that it was a mistake in lieu of the fact that Franks should have been going after Osama when he was making war plans for Iraq... but then the question got turned into something akin to 'so soldiers in Iraq are just participating in a sideshow' that's when Clark realized that they were going to try and twist the comment into a knock on the US military

he got pissed... i mean pissed... he got loud, was visibly angry...
wouldnt let the news anchor off the hook... something along the lines of "i gave 34 years of my life and my blood for the US military and to imply...how dare you twist my words..."

the anchor was giggly, like the kid who pokes the tiger but is safe on the other side of the cage (clark was being interviewed by remote)...

i dont like seeing any of the dems react when provoked, and i dont understand why any of them grant entities like Fox an interview. I dont think he said anything bad, and his reaction was one of those things that could well make those fence-sitting veterans say 'you know, that's it - they crossed the line' - but i don't know how many of them might have been watching fox at that exact point in time.

It's sorta funny. I've seen most of the other candidates angry - and non of them really make me feel like i should take them seriously. Clark has a little more weight when he gets angry (probably that military thing).

[xultar]

21. Do you think that will hurt him in the long run? What do you think

the undecided will think? Is there a way FAUX can play just that snipit of the interview and use it against the General?

[Palacsinta]

49. Side show

as in diversion..........that's exactly how I took it when I heard him say it on MTP. To say Clark meant "sideshow" as in carnival is unconscionable.

[wryter2000]

2. Good

What an incredibly stooopid question. I hope Faux puts that one away as counter-productive.

[Lefta Dissenter]

3. I have three questions for you

WHAT are you doing watching Fox?
Don't ya just love the General when he's mad and kicking @ss?
How the h*ll am I going to hope to view a re-play without having to subject myself to Fox all day long????

[Mountainman]

4. The right wing media needsa new way to deal with Clark

They are not going to run over him like they do other Dems. Clark is nobody's fool.

[Jim Sagle]

42. No one runs over Dean, either. Maybe you didn't notice.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Even People Who Disagree With Clark Saw His Point....

The troops did an outstanding job of carrying out their mission....

It just was the wrong mission....

Geez...........

[annxburns]

7. Thank God ....

.... someone needs to take on these idiots. The more Dean and Clark smackdown Fox and the right wing smear machine - the more I like it.

Fox News Smackdown. I LOVE IT.

[xultar]

11. That's why I'm glad Dean is on FAUX tonite. Clark hits'em in the AM

Dean hits'em in da PM. Sounds like a good plan of attack. FAUX should be spinnin Tues through Fri!

Go General
Go Dean

[annxburns]

23. Yeah, I just hope Dean doesn't ...

... suck up to Fox. They have been very nice to Dean lately, calling him "the good Doctor" and pumping him up.

I hope he sees through this and doesn't use it to attack other Dems. If Dean wins the nod, Fox will turn on him with a vengence ....

[xultar]

27. That is KKKarls plan. Pump Dean up secure the nomination then

bash his head in. The RW is scared of Clark. What they don't know is regardless of who gets the nod. We'll work tirelessly to get our nominated candidate elected. Yes, I'm a Clarkie, but I may end up being a Deanie, A Sharpie ;), or whomever elseie.

They think they are playing us but we know better. That is why Hillary C. said tha we weren't gonna let them pick our candidate. People pick candiates!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. Fox, Country Music, Hannity, O"Really" and all of....

the other Reich Wingers who attack the left for not supporting the troops will not be able stick that label to Clark. And yes, the woosies at Fox will Cower before General Clark on this issue!

:puke: Fox

[annxburns]

10. I really think Clark ....

... should go on Hannity and Colmes or Newshour with Brit Hume and beat the holy sh** out of them.

What does he have to lose? And taking on those idiots will make a hero to many people and negate any negative coverage they give him in the future.

Clark go right into the belly of the beast and start smacking people around.

[Kahuna]

24. LOL! I like the imagery your post provokes...

Clark beating the holy sh** of of them.

:yourock:

[xultar]

14. That's the plan...Call me liberal if u want but don't lie and say

that I don't support the troops...
The General can help us all (liberals) on that front.

[deminflorida]

18. Yeah, well I'm retired Military....

from the Clark era, and the guy is a rock star to most military folks. Any three start General that would put himself in danger along a road in hostile territory, and rappelled down a mountainside to try and save the lifes of his fellow soldiers from the inside of a burning military vehicle (APC)....who would do that??? Only a hero, and how in the hell can they say he disrespected his own troops, how can any single action be more RESPECTFUL to the people that server under you.

FOX has opened a can of worms on this one...

When cable television starts their biography series on Wes Clark, and believe me they'll do one soon. Alot of American's are going to see what this man is about, and then it's bye bye Bush....

Americans like real life heros, not fake, wannabe aircraft carrier pilots touting "Mission Accomplished".

http://www.lookatwhatwegot.com/wwwboard/messages/2726.html

:kick:

[Kahuna]

25. He's my hero!

:loveya:

[xultar]

36. First of all Thank you for serving in our Armed Forces

Second of all glad you're here to DU!
Third, I'm gonna donate to both DU and to Clark in your name.

I'm not sure if you support the General or not. I'll take it if you do. If you don't that's fine too. Don't be afraid to post to support the General or any other candidate. You'll get a bruised backside for posting positive for the General but you are a soldier so I'm sure you'll be able to take it.

It is a good practice not to rip other candidates. We consider it counter productive. We keep it real and focused on the issues. Third Don't join into a rip and if you agree keep it focused on the issues. Also if you can help it don't start an attack thread on any candidate. There are wingnut freeper people lurking in our midst. Don't give them any ammo to use against DU or our candidates!

Glad to have you here!

[Lefta Dissenter]

50. Thank you!

for serving, and for your comments. My husband served in Vietnam, and we have talked about the courage and selflessness that it took for people to remain in the service after they had 'permission' to leave. Most everybody, including my husband, got the hell out of there!

I LOVE that story about Clark trying to save his fellow soldiers, and then staying there, defending the burning vehicle, until backup could get there to retrieve the bodies of the fallen soldiers. I don't remember where I first heard it told, but the person telling it described how Clark was travelling with a fellow officer (I think?) who was yelling at him to NOT get out of the truck - but there was no way in hell he was going to leave those soldiers behind.

Where can I find an accounting of this story? It has stuck in my head and my heart, and I want to be able to accurately share it with others.

And, yeah, bring it on, Fox, do you think that Clark has gone through all that he has, faced down dictators, fought his way back from disabling injuries, just to be torn down by a weenie little snot-nosed tv personality? Are you NUTS?

[Punkingal]

51. Clark did that?

...Any three start General that would put himself in danger along a road in hostile territory, and rappelled down a mountainside to try and save the lifes of his fellow soldiers from the inside of a burning military vehicle...

That is awesome.

BTW, welcome to DU.

[Donna Zen]

30. Was it a thin skinned response or what?

Please could someone provide a completer discription of this interview.

That is why they have been questioning his honor; they wanted to push him too far. The bastards.

[DemCam]

35. He ain't Christ....

and evidentally isn't willing to let someone twist his words right to his face with the other cheek turned.

Arriba Wes. Dress the twit down!

We can't be so fearful of what "they" are going to say. That was Gore's worst fault, I think.

They are capable of every scurrilous lie, apparently...and from some of the comments here...so are some of our own.

As Wes said yesterday..."That's politics."

Let your passion and conviction ring.

[annxburns]

40. According to the Clark blog ....

.... Clark's official nickname is now "General Smackdown"

Mama like.

[xultar]

43. Ya hear that Clarkies - General SMACKDOWN! EU I like!

[Palacsinta]

45. Any details on the content in the interview????

nt

[xultar]

47. Check out post # 12

[Palacsinta]

48. Thanks .....

nt

[annxburns]

52. You can see it here ....

....

http://www.foxnews.com/access/video.html

[phillybri]

54. The RW media whores will start to resort to pissing off Clark...

....in order to further the talking point that he is "unstable" or a "loose cannon".

Fucking dicks...

[kaitykaity]

55. Locking.

Please see rule #2 here re: profanity in opening post.

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