Is Bush unbeatable if...

[CMT]

the economy noticably improves (meaning job creation) and if the Prescription Drug Bill passes esp now that AARP has endorsed it?

My feeling is it will make it tougher for us, but not undoable.

[La_Serpiente]

1. Will the economy improve?

This has been something I have been thinking about. Is it possible that we could have a jobless recovery?

[Melodybe]

5. Quit saying that Bush could possibly win, it simply is not true!

There are too many people out there that have been completely screwed by this administration. Victims of Eron/Worldcom, the families of any soldiers killed or wounded at war, the families of soldiers that have had their benefits slashed, any parent of a child whose school has been left behind, any homosexual in the country, the list goes on and on and on, the shrub is toast! We just have to vote, the American people will not be robbed again, things are uneasy now as it is, if the repubs tried to steal the election peole would revolt!

[everythingsxen]

7. We shall see..

Personally..

I am waiting for them to post-pone the '04 elections due to increased terrorist whatever. After martial-law is declared and the Constitution revoked, eveyone will fall into line.:eyes:

Either that or the blackbox voting thing will screw us and Bush will win.

[CityZen-X]

11. A Bu$h*t Win=Death of Democracy

Just the notion that this Resident Evil can steal (not win) the 2004 sends depression through my soul. If this is to happen, I am sorry people, I am out of here, for there is no there, there.!
The plan will be to liquidate all my assets, and move to an island country far removed from the inevitable sickness. My friends I am not a quitter. But as my friend "Flava Flave" would say, "do you know what time it is?"

[kalashnikov]

9. We are in a jobless recovery now.

There is no doubt in my mind that the economy will improve, its not just going to stagnate forever. Bushs tax cuts were a bad idea but they arent going to stop the economy from recovering.

[caledesi]

14. Since when does one give tax cuts during a war?

It just plain stupid.

[elperromagico]

18. Is this stupid enough for you?

http://www.nrc.nl/images/bush,7.jpg

Now, please repeat your question.

[adriennel]

2. think it will pass?

I don't think (hope?) the prescription drug plan will pass. Doesn't it involve shifting some Medicare programs to private insurance companies? This won't be good for anyone except the insurance companies (who don't need any more help, if you ask me).

Pharmaceuticals cost about half as much in Canada as they do in the U.S. Why not pursue this type of negotiation with the drug companies in the U.S.(I'm dreaming,I know. People are making too much money in this sector for reform.)

I thought we were already in the midst of a jobless economic recovery : ) And isn't that an oxymoron ala jumbo shrimp?

[Brucey]

3. No matter what the economy does, it will be mixed.

Therefore, Bush & Co. will spin it and the media will report it as being in recovery. Bush's wealthy friends will artificially drive up the stock market next summer. Troops will come home to hero's parades. Victory in Iraq will be declared (and reported by the media). Bush will wave the prescription drug law in front of all the elderly. Bush will be re-selected. Who do we run in 2008?

[bushisanidiot]

4. AWOL Will Lose Because He Has No Credibility. He Lied To Americans

who he swore to protect. He didn't protect us. Our soldiers are dying in Iraq. 3000 americans died on 9/11. AWOL has failed and will fail in the 2004 election.

regarding the economy.. he turned a record surplus into a record deficit. even if the economy starts to turn around, osama & hussein are captured, and AWOL learns how to read, the chimp will LOSE. He has been found out and will do time for his crimes.

[JNelson6563]

6. no he isn't but there is no chance in hell

that is a concern for us anyway. Look closely. There is no great recovery coming and seemingly great numbers have all been achieved through one-trick-pony methods. Unfortunately for Team Bush they are almost out of ponies. The jig is up. He's screwed and we can beat him with the economy stick without mercy. No worries on that count.

Julie

[brainshrub]

8. What is good for America is good for the Democratic party.

We don't need a bad economy to win. We have Bush!

Vote scams aside, Bush cannot win. He lied, stole an elections, invaded a country, killed Americ...aww screw it you know all this.

[kalashnikov]

10. yes.

Its sad, but look at it this way; he won two wars, weathered 9/11, cut taxes, and the economy is doing better. That is how he will be presented to the american people and unless the democratic candidate is Clark we have no chance in hell if things start to look up, which they most likely will.

I wish the Dems would stop talking about the issues and talk about the individual candidates and how they are all so much better suited to being president by virtue of having a brain and a mouth that can work at the same time.

[West Coast Democrat]

17. Bush* "won two wars"?

what spin!!!

[adriennel]

25. no clue....

...what two wars you are referring to as Bush winners. Please elaborate.

[kalashnikov]

33. they will say that he won in Iraq and Afghanistan

after all he did topple their govts.

[Wickerman]

12. On the AARP issue - when will impact be felt?

If I am not mistaken, the fees and impact will not be felt until 2005. At that point it will cost the US billions - 400 over 10 years if I recall correctly - most of it going to the drug corps and for profit HMOs - the rich just get richer under Bush*, and all is timed to make certain he has his shot at 2nd term without facing repercussion for selling out seniors.

[libertad]

23. I think the drug benefit goes into effect (if passed) in 2006.

nt

[CMT]

13. list of issues which are still potent for Democrats

even if jobs begin to be created--there is no way it will be more than what has been lost under Bush.

The poverty level has risen under Bushenomics

The Budget surplus turned to the biggest deficits

the number of people without health insurance has risen

Enron

Bush lied, people died

American credibility has declined in the world

the rape of the environment under Bush

Not funding Children Come First

Not funding Homeland Security

The price of rebuilding Iraq

Rightwing judges and potential for a far right tilt to SCOTUS.

the list goes on...

[blu_dog]

15. Probably Unbeatable

The economy is getting better, and jobs are beginning to appear. It will take some major gaff on his part to loose.

But worse yet, I don't think the selection of candidates we have can beat him even if nothing improves. I know what the GOP felt like when they ran Dole.

[CMT]

19. but

the job market will not create as many jobs as Bush lost during his term, it will not eliminate the deficit or the lost medical benefits and it is doubtful that the Iraq situation will improve markedly. We still have issues, but it will be harder--but overall the Bush record is pretty abysmal.

[blu_dog]

26. Yes, there are issues

But only people out of power complain about deficits (remember Newt in the minority).

Medical care and education are only lip service issues. Everybody talks about them but not much ever gets done.

What people will vote on is am I doing ok, and is it getting better?

None of the people running can convince the majority of Americans that they can do a better job. The 9 running for office are uninspiring. I think most Democrats will stay home.

[tritsofme]

27. It is possible that Bush* could come out near parity

in jobs if 200,000 or so are created every month until the election, which is a real possibility.

The deficit isnt going anywhere for a very long time. It is structural, that means that it will be impossible to grow out of, especially as baby boomers retire in the coming years. Bush has screwed up so much here, that there is nothing we can really do.

Iraq can be skewed to make it look like things are better.

This is going to be a very close election no matter what happens.

[adriennel]

24. jobs are beginning to appear?

are you just saying this or speaking from experience? the last official numbers I heard still amounted to a net loss of jobs.

major gaff other than lying about 9/11, Iraq, his tax cuts, and the size government increasing 27% during his reign?

sorry, but if you don't think we have a candidate that can beat him, why not just give up. geez, talk about apathetic Americans.

[blu_dog]

28. Do you have any idea of just how right you are?

Americans ARE apathetic. They need someone to vote for, not just someone to vote against.

We voted for Clinton, the GOP ran Dole and most of his votes were to vote against Clinton. He failed to inspire their core, so they stayed home.

There are still a lot of us moderates, i.e. SOUTHERNERS, who will stay home. Give me someone who isn't anti gun, doesn’t constantly whine about me driving a Surburban to vote FOR. Dean is right (as in correct, not wing), you need us.

[adriennel]

30. I know Americans are apathetic...

I just wish they weren't ;-) besides, you're talking to an Independent here...sometimes the Dems want us, sometimes they don't. But I will never, never believe or say that George is unbeatable in 2004. Not even the day after the Supreme Court declares him emperor..uh, I mean president.
BTW, my state is very pro-gun and pro-SUV, if you ever want to move way up north to the mitten.

[WindRavenX]

16. No matter what happens

Bush's propaganda spin doctors can turn it into a positive for Bush on just about every subject. This is biggest obstacle the Dems face; not Bush himself, but the people who create his image.
Bush could pull a Monica-gate and he would, despite the record setting hypocrisy, still turn it into a positive thing.
This is very difficult.

[phillybri]

20. It's a 50/50 country no matter what...

Who else is up for the fight?

[mmonk]

21. We'll lose

if the employment picture improves. Democrats need to keep calling for investigations on 9/11 and the Plame leak. It needs to be hammered home as much as possible. And democrats need to keep complaining (have they?) about lack of transparency in government. We need a spokesperson that isn't running to hammer this stuff over and over again especially to the press.

[Cat Atomic]

22. Bush can win even if the economy *doesn't* improve.

They'll scare people.

Bush's regime has been breaking the economy on purpose, you know. Starting a war and lowering taxes at the same time, starving the portion of government that average citizens depend on while feeding the defense industry... this stuff isn't an accident.

When you stop to consider the fact that Jr's cabinet is stuffed with men from the Reagan/Bush era- men who watched Bush Sr. lose an election- I have to think they've got a plan to drum up popular support.

It could be anything from an Operation Northwoods sort of domestic terror campaign, to the usual beating of the war drums, or something else. It'll almost certainly center on scaring the populace. That's always the way unpopular men maintain power.

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. Not unbeatable,

but MUCH more hard to beat. How things are going in Iraq will certainly be a factor.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

31. Which is why Kerry is a sure thing

He has the authority to question Bush on the National Defense issue, and as blm mentioned earlier today, he's got an unbelievably heavyweight team to do the hammering away at Bush.

[tritsofme]

32. and he voted for IWR