Has Rush blamed his addiction on his back today?

[eyeontheprize]

His apologists cling to the fact that he wasn’t an ordinary addict because he started and continued to use due to pain in his back. Did he have a miraculous cure for back pain in rehab? How is he coping without handfuls of pills?

It looks like the back pain issue will go the way of treason, WMD, etc…

[NewJeffCT]

1. no, no, no

The doctor who gave him the prescription is a friend of Bill & Hillary Clinton who intentionally gave him too much medication for his back, and also did not follow-up properly.

[CityZen-X]

7. Cerebral Location

Ae you refering to the same cerebral location (of pain) that kept him out of Viet Nam?

[Brian Sweat]

13. The Doctor who gave him the prescription

was really the Clenis in disguise.

[eleny]

2. He's being asked how he's managing his pain right now

He just said he's taking Vioxx and it's helping. And he's doing physical therapy and will probably need back surgery.

He also just went on to say he took the drugs because he liked them and should have gone to the doc as soon as he had pain.

[Old and In the Way]

4. Back didn't seem to bother his golf swing before he was busted.

Not only is he a narcotics junkie with an expensive habit, he is also a lying hypocrit.

[liberalnurse]

3. Lets keep the story straight, okay......

Rush is an addict who's drug of choice is a controlled narcotic, an opiate, either/or will do... oxycontin or Vicodin.....He has not had a legal scrpt for the oxycontin...He got them just like any other junkie, illegally. The fact that the narcotic drugs he enjoyed are by prescription have absolutely nothing to do with his habit......

So, when the new pundits say he was addicted to prescription drugs, that is indeed misleading. The phrase minimizes the truth..being..that he got them illegally, not by an over prescribing physician like Elvis had happen to him.

He's a hardcore junkie. Make no mistake on that fact. I'm sure his facilitator and group members pointed out that fact to him at Rehab.

[shanti]

5. wouldn't you love to be

a fly on the wall in THAT room! wonder how his therapists took to his lies?

[Stephanie]

10. What about this Vioxx he says he is on now?

Is that a narcotic?

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

11. Vioxx is an expensive NSAID

Like asprin without the stomach upset.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

37. VIOXX is what s known as a COX II inhibitor, not your average NSAID

further below you stated you knew your drugs, so I figured you would not mind the minor correction since Vioxx targets a very specific enzyme.

[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

52. Who the hell stalked you?

I posted on a thread about my STATE and I posted on this thread. Oh, and the other day I posted on a thread in which you left a rather strange reply....so three threads in which I respond to you makes me a stalker?

That is quite odd. This is a message board. I have interacted with you on exactly TWO threads. One that directly affects me as a Californian and the other that I had some insight on since I DID have back pain and back surgery and KNOW the difference between taking drugs for PAIN and pleasure.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

58. You're right - wrong choice of word

I meant Haunted and only in the manner in which I was stuck by attention. I apologize.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

60. I see.

So if on one thread, I challenge you to back up what you say and if on another thread, I comment out of interest on the topic since it is a topic I find interesting (i.e. a man that advocates locking up all drug addicts but for himself) that is somehow haunting?

If so, this is a very scary place :D :scared:

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

61. Sorry again, I'm just used to being ignored that I was distracted

It's hard to concentrate while being diluted with facts that have different concentric junctions than which I am trying to "solution".

[Timefortruth]

53. Rush couldn't help himself, you have convinced me.

Man, he is doing fine on a mild drug, but became addicted to the most powerful drugs created.

No question there, I'm sure Rush is a victim because he says so.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

57. It's not a Rush issue

It's an addiction issue and it's not to be taken lightly.

[Timefortruth]

62. It’s not a Rush issue, it’s a hypocrisy issue.

Rush has his deluded followers to excuse his addiction. Nothing he said today shows that he knows he is your regular run of the mill addict. He doesn’t even give a damn about other addicts.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

63. The last thing an addict needs is a "hypocrisy" guilt trip

When you grow up and gain empathy you'll understand. For now I understand your angst and hate. It's just a passing phase...

[Timefortruth]

64. Sorry, you don't understand addiction at all.

You don't fool me. Empathy is not foolishness, which is what you suggest.

Rush has not started recovery, if you really believe him (and I truly doubt that) then you are going to help kill him. He used drugs to get high so he could tolerate the harm he causes.

It really is that simple.

[DemBones DemBones]

67. Vioxx tears up my stomach just like all the other NSAIDs.

I can't take the stuff. Obviously, individual reactions vary.

[Zolok]

6. All junkies make excuses...

stress, pressure, pain...or some such nonsense.
It's what makes them junkies...
When he makes that excuse though, and he will, mark the moment...it'll be proof positive that he hasn't recovered with a damn and is still blaming others for his own choices.

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com

[Capn Sunshine]

8. AS someone whose spine was broken in four places..

and could not walk for months, I can tell you that I was addicted to morphine, and finally got off of it with a physician's help, but I never had to scrounge for it, it was given to me by a physician.

They told me I should have pain medication with me "for life" but I don't like feeling medicated. I just put up with the pain.

If pain is always around, you just acknowlege it and move on. It's like a realtive you have no control over. Will always be in your life. So, hello, pain. How are you this morning.

Limbaugh is a party head. Big difference between injury and a high.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

12. Party head

Intresting. I have not heard or seen that report. I have known many people hanging off opiates and mostly in private but not too many his age that did them to party. Got a link to this "party" report? It could be useful.

[Dr Fate]

14. He plays golf and is a radio host while high on drugs...

...he is certainly not taking them for his back- or else he could not swing a golf club- right???

He is a party head- he obtains illegal street pharmecueticals, and gets stoned while playing golf and running his mouth..

I'm sure he was having a blast until he got busted...

Guys in their 50's dont "party" the same way college kids do...


...Just becuase you are not staying up all night in the frat-house does mean that one does not like to alter his consciousness...

He played with fire and he got burned. Not the 1st pro-Drug-War conservative to be found a hypocrite, and not the last...

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

16. And you have known none with that type of addiction?

Or their political leanings made it ok fine if they had such a problem?

One of the wiser traits a person gets as they age is a sense of compassion based on human faults rather than political beliefs. I would try to explain it but you'll learn it as you get older and wiser.

I may not agree with the political beliefs of a fellow human but they are still human when they suffer. Perhaps it's guilt or just a weakness that is able to infect any of us given the chance.

[Dr Fate]

40. Rush would INSIST that I hold him to his own hypocritical standards...

So I shall ablidge.

You have no idea how old I am, or how many people I know who have succumbed to drug abuse.

Rush has always wished the worse on drug abusers-he is on record saying so.

I think he should go to jail for a long time- he has said on his show that this is right for other drug addicts, so I think it should be fine for him.

[Norcom]

25. Back and Golf

I have seen more than a few posters on here claim that his back pain/back surgery story is a lie because of Rush's love of playing golf. Well, the back pain/back surgery part may be a lie, but such surgery and pain is not something that will prevent someone from playing golf, nor playing it very well.

More than a few people on the PGA Tour have had several back surgeries and or are on pain medications for their back problems.

Fred Couples s probably the most recognizable to the non golfing public and slight fan of golf. David Duvall is another. Though his game has gone to shit the past couple years because of vertigo.

Hell, Jack Nickalus has a metal hip and he could whip all our butts!

[Dr Fate]

41. Except those guys are not desperate Narcotics addicts though...

...who get busted buying street/black market pharmacueticals at a gas station...

[Norcom]

51. reread my post

Reread what I have said. I have said that I have seen many posts by people claiming that Rush lied about his back surgery and based this claim on his playing golf. They wrongfully believe that if he had this back pain and/or back surgery he would not be able to play golf.

This is not true.

Further I said that the back surgery, back pain could be a lie on Rush's part regarding why he started the drugs.

[Timefortruth]

45. Pleazzze, he used handfuls of drugs for atl east SEVEN years.

And today he was able to go to work on asprin?

He liked to get high, that's why he abused drugs. If you listened to him today he did admit that. His addiction is unrelated to his pain.

When Rush kills himself it will be his enablers who will still be explaining why he wasn't responsible for his addiction.

We will know that he had to be wasted to be able to harm so many. He paid for it with his life, but he was rich when he died.

[Capn Sunshine]

20. a link to my opinion?

IMO Rush is a party head, How else do you explain someone making 200 plus mil a year buying tens of thiousands of opiates?

You dont see him buying cases of motrin , do you?

[Norcom]

30. I think your off on his income

200 million a year doesn't ring true. If memoery serves me right (a little Iron Chef there for ya) he signed a 10 year deal worth 250 million.

[Dr Fate]

42. You can buy a lot of DOPE with those Bucks- stay out of jail too!!!

Why is Rush not in JAIL, where he says drug abusers belong???

[Cheswick2.0]

68. too bad you are a tombstone, I would like to tell you what a dolt you are

you know nothing about drug abuse if you think people who are boomers don't use drugs to party. If he were 80 you might have a point.

[Dr Fate]

9. Rush does "street drugs" while he plays golf...

For a guy with a bad back, he sure does pack a decent golf swing!!!

BTW- "Prescription" means you get them LEGALLY from a Doctor for a diagnosed illness...

- any drugs obtained illegally are known in Law Enforcement circles as "Street Drugs"...

Two lies for the price of one, but that's Rush for ya!!

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

15. Bashing political enemies is fun but I have a question (or two)

Has anyone here ever had to get off opiates?
Is collective punishment good?
Are there better arguments against him other than things any of us could be "guilty" of?
Are we not better than "them"?

[BiggJawn]

17. No, Maybe, What? Yes.

Never been on opiates. Not even with 2 herniated discs.

Define "collective punishment"

I don't do drugs, ands I'm an Atheist, so I don't buy the "there but for the grace of gawd..." excuse.

Yeah, I'm "better" than them. What's that got to do with kicking their hypocrit mouthpiece when he's down?

[amazona]

19. not sure of the rationale behind these questions

I had backpain for over 20 years and I never took a single OxyContin, Vicodin, or any other scheduled drugs. Did you know that 80 percent of Americans have back pain at some time in their life? Yet somehow we manage to get through life without intimidating others into trading money for drugs in a parking lot -- drugs that, by their very nature -- must have been stolen from people with serious pain issues like cancer victims.

Because of people like Rush, people with serious pain from cancer like my friend's father are not prescribed sufficient pain medications and end up begging for death for months. Too many doctors flat-out won't prescribe sufficient treatment for pain because these drugs have to be monitored by the DEA. There are lots of drugs out there for people who want to get high. Rush could have smoked crack or hash or taken any number of other drugs that don't involve stealing from the truly ill.

Don't minimize what this criminal did by saying "any" of us could have done it. Sorry. I know too many people with serious back pain who would never lower themselves to this extent. I also know several people who had to get off opiates when the prescription ran out -- and they did not start hitting up their friends and family for THEIR prescriptions, nor did they start buying drugs on the black market.
It's a question of character. Rush has none.

[Capn Sunshine]

21. I just mentioned I was addicted to morphine

maybe you didn't know it's an opiate.
It was for pain, not party.
Thus my partyhead comment above.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

31. Believe me, I know what an opiate is

Oxycontin is a time release compound of oxycodone which can be bypassed by crushing and snorting or by direct injection. Oxycodone is a synthetic morphine. Morphine is a very potent mu agonist and has been used for centuries.

I don't care for his politics but I don't like to see humans suffer and refuse to be party to such petty hatred without any gain. Hatred is for bad people and not those that portend to bring betterment to the world.

[DemBones DemBones]

66. If you know what an opiate is, why didn't you acknowledge that

Cap'n Sunshine already said he had to overcome an addiction to morphine?

Do you see Rush one of "those who portend to bring betterment to the world"?

[eyeontheprize]

22. Rush has made a choice to bring suffering through lies.

He is only able to do that if he is using massive amounts of opiates. He has an opportunity to begin to do good with truth and appears to have rejected that opportunity.

Would you have compassion for Saddam if he were also an addict? Not to say Rush is Saddam, but he does cause untold misery to millions and is proud of it. It is very difficult for many here, including myself to have compassion for Rush because he has no capacity for compassion. Rush is hate and lies; he has no interest in changing. Rush has no compassion for the soldiers who will die in the name of greed. Rush has no compassion for those who will suffer and die for want of medical care. Rush has no compassion for the addicts who go to jail rather than a posh treatment center.

Rush claims not to be a hypocrite because he didn’t persecute those with his problem once he became addicted. Wouldn’t we all love to be excused from the crimes we chose to commit and leave others to suffer severely for the failures that aren’t our own.

Rush doesn’t need our compassion and won’t get it. He has his dittos to enable him, here he has to face facts.

[Terwilliger]

24. who's them?

Fuck Rush Limbaugh...he's a lying scumbag sonofabitch.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

34. Love your compassion dude

You are such a spokesperson for liberal values. We were talking addiction - not politics. Some of us can see the difference.

In the end we are really equal. We are born and then we die. Everything in between is influenced by our own thoughts and others. Many people are liars, scumbags and "SOBs" but often they have some redeeming quality that keeps them keeping on regardless of the crass condemnation of others.

[Solomon]

39. Just wondering if you're this compassionate about other drug

addicts, like crack addicts, heroin addicts, cocaine addicts, etc.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

47. Much, much more so

I just wish they we not so neglected here instead of focusing on this blowhard Rush. Ya follow my drift?

[Timefortruth]

59. Got your drift.

We should have compassion for Rush, um, because we should have compassion because compassion is deserved when one is addicted because addiction deserves compassion. You have made it very clear.

[Timefortruth]

44. Calling from earth!

If we excuse him (call it compassion if you want) we are pretending to buy his line that he became addicted because of back pain. I’ve got news for you; he is just a plain old addict. The pain, if there was any, is not the reason he was buying pills by the truckload in parking lots. The man has access to the best medical care in the world, but didn’t use any of it. Why? He liked the drug, it was not pain, he deserves no compassion.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

48. Thanks for the news

I'm always hip to the angst ridden scream avatar and completly understand where you're coming from. Thanks again!

[Timefortruth]

49. Do you read your posts before posting them?

It really would help.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

32. Yes. I got off opiates one week after back surgery

Not because I was pain free but because I KNEW I would have TWO problems to deal with if I didn't.

There are plenty of better arguments and they have been posted on many many threads, so perhaps reading the archives would enlighten you. It is also a bit of a stretch to say ANY of us could be guilty of ingesting thousands of opiates...most of us could not afford that many.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

33. I've been enlightened - thanks

Knowing you got off them after one week enlightened me that anyone can do it if you can. I just wish I could have known that beforehand without the reminder. Thanks again.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

36. I simply was pointing out that it is not something ANYBODY

might do. You are welcome. I am always happy to be a source of enlightenment. Got any more defenses of Limbaugh?

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

38. defenses of Limbaugh?

My defense was for opiated addiction since I know something about it.

Why would you distort my defense into such a thing so personal as "defenses of Limbaugh?"???

Was that really necessary or are you trying to project something on me?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

43. Gee, you seemed to have set the tone with your response to me..so

perhaps you might point that finger inwards. And PROJECTING...gosh, read your posts ...that's where I got it from, but I DO find that an interesting choice of words.

BTW when discussing addiction, the ONE thing Rush DID have going for him was that he COULD have afforded ANY of a number of options to deal with his problem...something the average addict cannot do.

[WeirdSceneGoldmine]

50. I'm pretty tone deaf so sorry to mislead you

I just read them and noticed you came at me with total disregard to my concern about addicts and assumed I was defending Limpballs. The sooner you understand I'm not a pre-pubic knothead and have no agenda other than honesty the better.

BTW, there is no such thing as an "average" addict - they are all unique. I've been helping addicts for 25+ years - how about you?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

54. Actually I help some addicts since my job deals with disabled people

Some left addicted to prescription drugs due to intractable pain from injuries and I have been doing it for TWO decades. The difference being, the people I deal with became addicted through actual PRESCRIPTIONS for those drugs.

[Timefortruth]

56. If you were concerned about addicts

You would demand that Rush be honest.

All you do is excuse him and call it "compassion."

[BeachBuckeye]

18. His ads for the mattress company said......

that the mattress had "cured, taken away" his back pain. Was he lying in the ad or is he lying now. Fair and balanced, you decide.

[Stephanie]

27. Ha Ha Ha!

Did anyone tape that? I would love to hear that ad juxtaposed with his quotes today about his back pain and how he needs surgery, but he was afraid to get the surgery before because it might affect his VOICE.

[MIMStigator]

23. Maybe he'll blame it on his ass like his draft dodging

n/t

[Norcom]

26. Ya

wouldnt want to blame it on his back like Dean.

[EMAN51]

28. Robertson and Falwell should announce that Rush's troubles are divine

retribution for the years of spewing venom against decent people and their ideology. The hearing loss, multiple marriages, firing by ESPN, the drug addiction and other failings are the result of his loss of a moral compass and God's wrath. They have blamed a lot of social problems on liberalism (Remember the desire for a hurricane or other natural disaster to befall Disneyworld in response to the extension of same sex partner benefits to their employees?) If they want to be consistent, they should tell Rush to change his ways or beware the consequences.

[eyeontheprize]

29. Let me be the first to welcome you to DU EMAN1!

It's not too often that you will find a consistant Republican, in fact it is logically impossible.

[newyawker99]

35. Hi EMAN51!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[kentuck]

55. He's not "addicted to prescription medications"...

He had no prescription. He's "hooked on illegal drugs". Not one time have his defenders used the word "drugs" in describing Rush's problem....

[eleny]

65. Guy James mentioned Rush's back thing and it was funny

He said that Rush has a mattress company advertise on his program. Rush did some ads for the company and said that his back was cured after sleeping on that particluar mattress for only a short time. So, he's either a bold faced liar about how good the mattresses are. Or the mattress is crap and he needed tons of drugs for his pain.

Just another lying liar, I suppose.