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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:45 PM
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See them now! Only 25 cents! Self-Mutilating Democrats from Outer Space!
I wasn't going to post this: in fact, I sent another version of it somewhere else, but the infighting reached my nausea limit, and I had to put this out there:


People, we are going to guarantee the "election" of George W. Bush, and I am getting sick and tired of people supposedly on our side helping to make it happen through acts of mutual and self mutilation.

I am not talking about the petty sniping that's going on between supporters: I think we've all proved what incredibly partisan fools we can be inside of our own milieu. This appears to be the nature of the beast, and I've stopped trying to change that.

I am talking about the misreading of the American Electorate. They don't have our concerns, they can't think past two candidates and they are not listening anyone's rhetoric past the sound bites. Therefore, it goes without saying that we are going down to defeat if we don't change the scenario. Now.

PART ONE
Here in the hinterlands, all you have to do is read the local papers, and it all becomes clear as crystal:

"I trust the President."
"Bush has restored our moral compass."
"George Bush always tells the truth."

This is becoming more common with time, and if we deny it, we are whistling in the dark. Joe Bag-O-Donuts actually believes the propaganda; and if you remember the statistics, for every letter written, you can count on 20 that believe that way but didn't bother to write.

Here in Port Huron, Michigan, the homeless rate is beginning to skyrocket, and yet, these letters keep flying in. Why do these people, whose jobs have gone to Korea, Mexico, and Indonesia still support this guy? Because Radio, TV and the Papers tell them to.

Michelle Malkin is given at least one mid-page banner opinion space every week in the local rag, usually two, and sometimes three. Michael Reagan is there once or twice a week as well. Tie that to the "Community Columnists" (one, a retired economist for Ford Motor who thinks Reagan was GOD, and another, a buzz cut teenage member of the Young Republicans at one of the upscale high schools)….Well, you get my drift.

The upshot of this is the normal outgrowth of the voter's tendancy to go for what is comfortable. They don't understand enough to dig through our concerns and although they are frightened enough to care, the Right Wing is doing its best to assure them that Uncle George will take care of everything if we let him. This is difficult to fight with issues, if we ever really got to them, that is.

Maybe we can't do a lot about PART ONE, but we sure do something about PART TWO:

Our Candidates are going nowhere. All of them.

They started too late like Clark did and can't seem to catch fire: he's starting to fight back, but why the kid gloves? Or they don't stand a chance, like Sharpton or Kucinich or Moseley-Braun: I'm sorry, they just won't make it, no matter how wonderful someone thinks they are. Gephardt has Iowa and nowhere else. Kerry is a nice guy but his campaign is talking in a whisper, plus the money is going to start coming from his family; that hasn't worked yet. Is Edwards still running? I haven't heard his name even mentioned lately. Lieberman? Get real. And I swear to God if our current "Front Runner" (Dean) doesn't roll his sleeves down, quit mumbling to himself in the debates, and stop being the lightning rod for any electricity the Bush Campaign cares to loose, I will consider going to his next rally to give him a wake-up slap in the face. That man has shoes almost as clean as Bush from sticking his foot in his mouth.

What is up with these guys? Don't they hire Spin Doctors and PR Hacks? None of this should be happening in the first place, and the result of this is the entire Party selection process is starting to look like "Send in the clowns" with Karl Rove as the Ringmaster. I don't dislike any one of them with the exception of Lieberman, but for crying out loud, they all need to stop doing the RNC's job for them!

Also, if I hear one more time about how the incredibly wasteful in time, money and other resources "Primaries" will sort things out, I swear I will projective vomit on the shirt of the perpetrator. Waiting until then is starting the game at the second half, and spotting the opposition two touchdowns, then letting them receive the kick. Bush already has enough money to spend on the election to make Midas weep with envy, and he won't have to spend a nickel on primaries.

Kids, we have no more time for these arguments. You can complain all day long about this guy or that guy doesn't represent you or won't do all you want; tough. I'm a Socialist: take a wild guess how I feel about all of the candidates.

What it comes down to is this: you can have thin soup and bread for lunch with the Democrat of "not my choice" running things, or a feces sandwich on moldy toast with Bush in charge. We let this happen. We did. Clinton and Gore did not get our best efforts: we were busy with our 401k's and riding the prosperity tide. "Eternal Vigilance is the price of freedom," and we were asleep at the switch, the worst part being that we did it twice: 2000 and 2002. There is precious little time to stop the juggernaut of the Bush Administration no matter how much we believe differently on a personal level, and if we keep fighting among ourselves long enough, then there won't be any chance at all.

This horserace started a long time ago, and if it were not for the fact that the animal we are racing against is a blind Texas plow pony with one lame leg, the race would already be over. Time to saddle up one horse and start racing: pick one.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:51 PM
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1. I agree....which depresses me......
It really does depress me.

The only thing that gives me hope is that whoever is the nominee will pick one of their primary opponents. This would be such an incredible act of unity and putting aside of egos that I think it would energize so many dems and would show the rest of the country that we are unified.

I'm not holding my breath for this. I'm predicting another Leiberman moment whereupon the vp selection is announced and I just feel a loud thunderous thud.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:56 PM
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3. In light of the continuing Dem infighting, and the Draft news....
We have moved up our dates for going to Canada. We had targeted it for 2006, but now with the increasingly unrealistic attitude of the Party and the news of the July 2005 target for the draft, we are setting up for the Spring of 2005.

I had planned the extremely spiritual experience of building our house, but I can't wait. Getting in and Getting legal is much more emergent than that; I'll settle for the Shito Shrine and teahouse.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:56 PM
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2. Isn't that what happens in the primaries?
Bush is not the anti-Christ. He's a contender for worst POTUS but hey, we've been ushered into this phase by both parties for years.

Sorry... I'm not getting my knickers in a twist. The moving hand, having writ, moves on...
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 04:00 PM
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4. Hope you're right.
Don't think so. Not anymore.

I'd even support Dean, if everyone else would, RIGHT NOW, or if an overwhelming number would, even thought I believe he has less of a chance than others.

It's not happening. Our message is split 10 ways with almost 30% undecided. THAT is an unqualified disaster, in need of damage control.

That, with the SCOTUS, BBV, and the lack of control through matching funds, I am resigning myself to the fact that we will likely lose.
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 04:06 PM
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5. From The Planet....
The current Demo's in power are from the planet Stupidtron! They are the councel for the citizens of the "Mushroom Nation." (Those who are kept in the dark, and thrive on mass quantities of Bu$h*t!)
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 04:08 PM
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6. And it doesn't have to be this way.
All one guy has to do is step up and make an unholy amount of NOISE. If you get heard, you've got at least a chance.

It's so QUIET out there.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 04:33 PM
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7. I agree
Unfortunately, I have picked one, and a bunch of other folks picked someone else. I hate it as much as you do. I'd be happy to let the primaries play out and I've said I like Kerry and Clark. My only issue with Edwards is the war. Instead I get "Dean can't win" shoved down my throat everyday. I want to pick one. So does everyone else. Think it's bad now? Wait until the Iowa debate where Dean gets called a loser wanna-be racist.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:55 PM
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8. Way too early
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 06:57 PM by BeFree
To be hyped up...0nce the primarries have run the course and one Dem has risen to the lead, the time for unity will have arrived. The fights going on now have occured every time this country has had a pug prez.

I've seen worse. Just be ready to get behind the winner of the primaries. Anything else is kinda like pissing in the wind.

I will say, however, it is enthusing to see and hear so much passion getting hyped up, so far ahead of the final electon! 12 months to go... pace yourselves my friends, pace yourselves.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:36 PM
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9. HMMMMM. 2000?
Gore was in place about 6 months before the primaries...?
The primaries were sort of a "chop" on his candidacy, and we STILL "lose" the election.

The only insurance for this one will be a 10%+ majority: that CAN'T be "black boxed," and I think it's already too late for that.

Bush will have $300-$400 MILLION by the end of the primaries, and some stations would not carry pro-Gore ads for love or money last time.

Sorry. I think you're dreaming.

Check, Please!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:39 PM
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10. We'll be fine by April.....
The nominee will have it rapped up following Super Tuesday and will probably have already selected a VP by mid April. Everyone will rally, and it will be a 7 month race to the finish.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:56 PM
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11. With less than $200 million to Bush's 300-400
Hey, that sounds like a big winner to ME. Boy oh Boy.

Even if Dean makes his quota that he's projected, and doesn't spend a NICKEL on the primaries, then Bush will only be able to outspend him by say, 2 to 1.

This justs gets better and better. God Save the Queen (just practicing)
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