Freepers Are Beginning To Turn On PNAC...

[jayfish]

and they don't even realize it. Very strange birds, those Freepers. They seem to turn on anyone who is not in 100% lockstep with their fearless leader.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1023597/posts

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(William Kristol and Robert Kagan)
The immediate danger is that the American mission in Iraq may be the first and most dire casualty of this administration's parsimony. In these pages a few weeks ago, Lewis Lehrman felicitously observed, "prudence counsels that to desire the Bush Doctrine is to desire the indispensable means to make it effective." So far, the Pentagon has shown little interest in developing and deploying the indispensable means to make the Bush Doctrine effective. The stunning victory in the war to remove Saddam has been followed by an almost equally stunning lack of seriousness about winning the peace, despite the vital importance of creating a stable, secure, and democratic Iraq. That is what the Bush Doctrine of "regime change" means, or should mean: Not blowing out the bad regime and then leaving others to pick up the pieces, but staying long enough to ensure that a good regime can take its place.
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To: rmlew

But we must also face the reality that we are a nation at war, and normal troop deployment schedules can no longer hold in every instance.

If this war in Iraq is so critical to the survival of this nation that we must change "normal troop deployment schedules" for our military personnel, then I would suggest that this war is also critical enough to the survival of this nation that Mr. Kristol and Mr. Kagan can put on their f#cking uniforms and go over there themselves.

In light of the fact that almost nothing in this war has gone the way the folks at The Weekly Standard predicted (or wished), I'm surprised someone liek William Kristol can even show his face in public anymore.
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To: rmlew

An extroadinary piece emanating from the citadel of neo conservatism - the philosopy and its popularizers who led us into Irak.

If this is an attempt to pin the tail on the Bush admistration, it should be resisted as any policy or criticism broached by those who are blindfolded. The problem in Irak is not the lack of troops, but of intelligence or of original conception - the conception of the Weekly Standard.

The Weekly Standard wants us to stand and die for their conception, but what does victrory there mean? America will sustain casualties, but only if it sees the point.

8 posted on 11/17/2003 1:37 PM PST by nathanbedford
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To: nathanbedford

Ah, some of us "paleocons" predicted this months ago. The worm has turned and "neocons" will abandon and blame Bush for Iraq- a war they lead him too.

9 posted on 11/17/2003 1:40 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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Maybe they will start to do some research on the subject and really enlighten themselves.

Jay



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[nadinbrzezinski]

1. They won't do any research

but maybe they will stay home, especially if they realize that
bush means draft... and they will not put the uniform themselves

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. You said:

"Maybe they will start to do some research on the subject and really enlighten themselves."

Yeah, and the porcine beasts, down on the flightline, just got the signal to turn their props. ;-)

[arcane1]

3. about damned time...

hey Freepers- how is that "new Pearl Harbor" working out for ya?

[cliss]

4. The PNAC

or the Project for the New American Century is an ill-conceived plan based on delusional thinking and a lack of understanding of the world and people in general.

It's based on the theory that the United States will be the dominant force in the world. All other countries will do our bidding. All threats to us will be eliminated. Even though the US only comprises about 5% of the world's population, we will successfully control the other 95%.

This is a plan that's been vying for its place in the sun for about 20 years now. After Bush was granted admission into the White House, and PNAC planners had their chance. They had tried before to convince Bush the 1st and Clinton and were turned down.

After 9/11, though, circumstances made it possible for these men to push their agenda on Washington DC. To the horror of many who knew better, they were given free rein to try out their blueprint for world domination.

The end result is Iraq. This country was only the first country to be occupied and "improved". The plan is to make the entire Middle East a vassal state of the US.

Like it so far?

[HFishbine]

6. What a great summary

well done.

[9215]

5. Nice to be able to snooze.....ah.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

open an eye now and then to check on the progress of the Repukes implosion, smile satisfactorily, and return to snooze mode....zzzzzzz

:boring: :boring:

Wake me when its over.

Are the "paleocons" the Buchananite anti-Trilateralists?

[JackRiddler]

8. Buchananite anti-Trilateralists?

Yup. And you must admit, they have one part of that equation right.

Here's their big site:

www.antiwar.com

[dani]

7. why do some of the Freeps

still insist upon spelling Iraq "Irak"?

And why do they ignore copyright regulations by posting entire articles in their forums?

[9215]

9. Their mispelling is a carryover

from their infantile anger as gradeschoolers being "coerced" into spelling properly. Now they can misspell and get away with it.

[Malva Zebrina]

10. Oh how romantic--we are at war!

and we have the dressed up, costumed commander in bulging crotch leading us to victory~~~ over the Muslim infidels~ How wonderful! What a leader! Send our young people over there to die--but do not require me or my kids to go there. If you do, I will send them to Canada!

Commander in crotch,commander in costume, commander cod piece, and c ommander of displaying little boy genitals to the world. Take that you infidels~!

You are our crotched leader, Bush, even though you went AWOL yourself and are a proven coward in chief, running away from the 9-11 attack when your countrymen needed you and finding safety for yourself, because,well because you are a shaking, shriveling coward when it comes to facing up to an enemy. You sure do know how to display your pathetic crotch though, as if that would make up for your cowardly retreat in the face of crisis, to prove, well to prove that you do indeed have a little boy penis and a couple of little balls--and that proves, indeed, that you are a capable man and leader. LOL Proud of yourself now? I bet. Keep up those photo ops--I saw one today that showed you very very mad at someone--you do not know who really, but you were told to look angry and you did what you were told and assumed the angry face and the pointing fingers.

Asshole--making jest while our children are being attacked in Iraq--he is visiting sports stars. He is insane. I want my country back.



Asshole of a clown