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[alexwcovington]

1. Subliminal messaging is said not to work...

but depending on how paranoid you are... you may ask, "Is that what they want you to think?"

[tom_paine]

7. Subliminal messaging doesn't work?!? BULLSH*T!

:wtf: :wtf:

You'd have to show me AT LEAST one credible link for me to even get close to buying that.

From it's inception and the 700% increases in popcorn sales over controls back in the 50s, subliminal messaging works and works very wee.

All manner of "spin-offs" that are indirectly related to subliminal messages arose out of their being made illegal in the direct "insert a frame into a movie too fast to consciously register" traditional methods.

"Fast-clip" technology which is now emulated by the music video industry (one assumes inadvertantly, or perhaps because "fast-clip" has been so successful in dictating what is cool and making the psychomanipulative startegy cool, itself.

There are many more.

[pw]

9. Popcorn study was an urban legend

But things like that headline aren't subliminal. They're right out there in the open as propaganda techniques.

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[JackRiddler]

34. "Subliminal"

sub•lim•i•nal adjective (1886)
1 : inadequate to produce a sensation or a perception
2 : existing or functioning below the threshold of consciousness <the subliminal mind> <subliminal advertising>
sub•lim•i•nal•ly adverb

Merriam-Webster's Collegiate

The second definition above fails insofar as there is no precise threshold of consciousness. Everyone has things they are vaguely aware of, things that enter consciousness intermittently, or things they actively suppress.

What may be ragingly obvious to you ("Help, that madman is swinging around the nukes!") may seem different to someone else ("He gives me a reassuring feeling. I think I trust him.")

Think of subliminal and explicit as opposite poles along a graduated axis. Subliminal messages need not be hidden in the form of single-frame images or supersonic commands, though these also exist.

Subliminal effects may be packed into

- assumptions (e.g., "people" as a synonym for Americans)
- context (e.g., orchestrated events within a ceremonial space, like the White House red room, or the exploitation of a disaster area to make a speech about defense)
- uncommented symbolism (e.g., a flag)
- subtle signs (the choice of a tie)
- editing, the sequencing of facts and of stories within a news program
- body language
- design
- setting up false dichotomies (Hannity vs. Colmes)

etc.

The graphics flashed next to the anchor person at the beginning of a TV news story immediately and almost imperceptibly structure one's perceptions: "oh, the graphic says CRIME, so the story is about (street) crime." They transport a story and set of assumptions: e.g., by showing a dark man in a stocking with ominous shadows lurking above a city skyline (whereas the story itself might be about white people). These messages may fail to get through, but they are usually transported successfully, whether one notices it or not.

Mind control by whatever name has been the mission of propaganda (a.k.a. public relations) ever since its pioneers adopted the findings of social psychology and psychoanalysis early in the 20th century - and set out to use scientific principles in influencing the behavior of crowds. The government got heavily involved in scientific propaganda starting with the First World War at the latest.

Mind control is effected through schooling, law, organized religion, advertising, marketing, television, entertainment, explicit political speech, the exploitation of traumatic events, legal medicine and the drug war, the omnipresent technological infrastructure with its constant small demands - beep! Ringring! you got mail! - and the behavioral routines imposed by social architectures like the workplace, the supermarket, the roadway, the apartment complex and the suburban district plan (with prisons and psych wards as the ultimate enforcement).

Modern mind control is the industrial/scientific extension and expansion of ancient techniques of force, rhetoric and control. It has developed into an organic system; there is no one origin, no single set of controllers and no single explicit goal; but an overwhelming overall effect to reinforce particular systems and values, to define and enforce the roles and the rules that people simply accept as natural and self-evident.

The system entered a new phase with the rise of the permanent national security state after World War II. McCarthyism played the role of brute force, even as 1,000 varieties of gentle muzak were developed to keep people in the thrall of the sirens. One of the most essential elements of mind control consists in the dispensation of rich, pleasurable diets to the majority who conform. Keeping you sated is half the game.

There are many specific sciences of mind control through conditioning, brainwashing, hypnotism, torture, drugs, military (and cult) training programs, psychological addictions, and genuinely subliminal messages (i.e., things most people really cannot consciously hear or see). The biggest and most obvious success has been in the area of drugs: tranquilizers, uppers, downers, happy pills, smart pills, speed, stupefiers.

The last part may sound sinister, especially if it has so far been subliminal to you (in the sense of nothing you ever thought about much). But it's also normal. Scientists at countless institutes, public and private, have been working on many different techniques for decades. There are truth serums, patents on technologies to broadcast messages into minds and to hook microchips straight into the nervous system, plans to create drugged-up supersoldier cyborgs who control missiles by mental impulse, etc.

I think most people here do not doubt that the modern media function as a political mind control system, and that the creative and executive people within that system are aware of how the system works and participate in the consensus to keep it working. This is considered sound commercial sense. It's also good for your career. Pull in the sales, get the ratings, keep the audience hooked.

I have no doubt that the hidden-government system of intelligence and law enforcement agencies long ago set out to control the messages broadcast to the people, and little doubt that they have largely succeeded in gaining control. Many means have been used to this end: regulation, hidden proprietorship/control of key media, academies and think tanks, sponsored publications, invented events, placement of agents as reporters, bribery, hooking reporters on given sources so that they become de facto mouthpieces, secret deals with editors and publishers, brute-force ostracism of deviants ("you'd better watch what you say!")

It gets worse. For a start, if you've never heard of the following declassified cases of experiments on unwitting humans, please look them up:

Operation Mockingbird
MK-ULTRA, Operation Artichoke

Q. Do you think these programs were ever suspended?

[Beetwasher]

42. I'll Find a Link, But It Doesn't Work

Subliminal messaging has been studied and there is NO significant effect.

I'll see if I can find a link to some of the studies, but I come from a strong marketing background and I've read the studies and my dad is somewhat of a reknowned expert on marekting and PR techniques and he emphatically maintains that subliminal messaging is NOT effective.

However, that doesn't mean it 's not used, which is a different matter altogether.

[Cleita]

2. You can file that "most" Americans along with "very popular" President.

Duh, popular with whom??? Most Americans??? Doubt it. When you cruise the bulletin boards of the internet, praise for Bush is very light and criticism very evident.

[number6]

3. I do,

I believe they try too, whether it works or not I don't know ..
:smoke:

[Abe Linkman]

4. Of course it "works"

All advertising is cumulative. Over time, the message sinks in with the target audience (non-critical thinkers: the public).

[RichM]

5. All of American culture is 'mind control,' for Pete's sake. (Not

you - the "other" Pete!) It never stops from the minute you're born. Every movie you've ever seen, TV shows, the History Channel, the sorry excuses for "history" courses one gets in high school & even college, the New York Times... everything! It's all mind control, constantly devoted to the glorification of winning, conquest, power, wealth, the wealthy, consuming, and slinky blondes. It would be pretty odd if CNN, now blessed with the hypnotic advent of the suddenly ubiquitous "News Ticker," should miss the juicy opportunity of squeezing every drop of propaganda out of it that's humanly possible.

About these new goddamn "News Tickers," BTW -- they didn't have these nasty little things 3 years ago. Suddenly, you can't get away from them. Just a total "coincidence," I'm sure! If you ever actually read them, MOST of their inane blurbs are nauseating BS, & not really "news" at all.

[tom_paine]

8. Allright, Rich, color me propagandized on the issue of slinky blondes!

Especially those with large mammary protuberances...

:evilgrin:

But does that really make me a bad guy?

[RichM]

16. No. All those susceptible to slinky blondes shall receive special

dispensation, come the Revolution. But if you've subscribed to "People Magazine" or are on the Sharper Image mailing list, you might be in a lot of hot water!

[tom_paine]

35. Well, I'm ok there!

<whew!>

[punpirate]

6. Subliminal influence...

... may not have the wished-for impact, but endless repetition does....

Cheers.

[indigo32]

48. You better believe it

eom

[maggrwaggr]

10. i'd swear Pox news has something subliminal going on

when you turn to it, the colors are cranked way up, there's that sorta dreamy, hypnotic waving of the flag image and those blues and blacks in the background ..... you start to get lulled in ...... pretty soon there's something just oddly compelling about whatever's on that you don't want to turn the channel .....

Or maybe it's just a "I can't believe they're saying that" response. The sheer audacity of their lies.

[maggrwaggr]

11. "Most Americans think Bush is a strong leader, share his values."

No shit, you actually SAW that?????

[Minstrel Boy]

All I have to say about that is

[tom_paine]

13. Yes sir, MinstrelBoy...yes, sir.

[RichM]

17. I have a question about that movie. How does it end?

I watched the first half last week, but fell asleep when there was some stupid long fight in an alley way.

But that scene in your picture above was fantastic! So I'm curious -- what did I miss?

[Minstrel Boy]

36. boy, was that fight ever stupid...

The movie ends with the resistance destroying a transmitter, which makes the aliens visible to the "sleeping" humans.

If only! ;)

[frank frankly]

20. MB, you nailed it again

damn, that's nice.

that movie is too scary to watch now...even the 15 minute alley fight!

[LifeDuringWartime]

30. what the hell is that from?

n/t

[smallprint]

33. They Live.

Classic 80s movie, directed by John Carpenter, starring "Rowdy" Roddy Piper in his finest role ever (heh heh). Very subversive beneath the 80s silliness.

synopsis from imdb:
"Nada, a down-on-his-luck construction worker, discovers a pair of special sunglasses. Wearing them, he is able to see the world as it really is: people being bombarded by media and government with messages like "Stay Asleep", "No Imagination", "Submit to Authority". Even scarier is that he is able to see that some usually normal-looking people are in fact ugly aliens in charge of the massive campaign to keep humans subdued."

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/plotsummary

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

12. Absolutely

and this certainly does NOT make me feel any better. 50 years from now they will be studying the mind control done in America today. It will mostlikely be in another country's textbooks, however.


CNN let army staff into newsroom

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 12, 2000
The Guardian

Two leading US news channels have admitted that they allowed psychological operations officers from the military to work as placement interns at their headquarters during the Kosovo war.
Cable Network News (CNN) and National Public Radio, (NPR) denied that the "psy-ops" officers influenced news coverage and said the internships had been stopped as soon as senior managers found out . For its part, the army said the programme was only intended to give young army media specialists some experience of how the news industry functioned.

The interns were restricted to mainly menial tasks such as answering phonescough...BULLSHIT...cough, but the fact that military propaganda experts were even present in newsrooms as reports from the Kosovo conflict were being broadcast has triggered a storm of criticism and raised questions about the independence of these networks.

"Maybe CNN was the target of a psy-ops penetration and is still too naive to figure out what was going on," wrote Alexander Cockburn, a liberal newspaper commentator. "In the Kosovo conflict, as with other recent wars, CNN's screen was filled with an unending procession of bellicose advocates of bombing, many of them retired US generals."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,178620,00.html

[atre]

22. Look closely

That would have been during the Clinton Administration.

[JackRiddler]

37. Correct

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

Just keep thinking that Clinton was not Bush. And hell, he wasn't. He had a different job: to fatten you (and your treasury) so that Bush would have some good livestock to slaughter.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

50. So what?

I really don't care WHO was president and the CIA's and psyops agenda are certainly not always that of the president's (not that I am dismissing that this COULD have been done with Clinton's knowledge or control, he certainly had everything to GAIN by a favorable impression of the reporting of that war)

[nolabels]

57. Hello , hello, is this number to whom I am calling ("Laugh In" line)

And who could forget the David Icke .html. There is some stuff there that looks bogus there but then there is stuff like this.

The goal of disinformation is to tack on falseness to make anything associated with it suspect and dismissible

http://www.davidicke.net/mindcontrol/menu.html

http://www.davidicke.net/mindcontrol/research/re020101b.html
(snip)
US Army Field Manual 101-5-1, Operational Terms and Graphics (released 30 September 1997), defines information warfare as "actions taken to achieve information superiority by affecting a hostile's information, information based-processes, and information systems, while defending one's own information, information processes, and information systems." The same manual defines information operations as "continuous military operation within the military information environment that enables, enhances, and protects friendly forces' ability to collect, process, and act on information to achieve an advantage across the full range of military operations. interacting with the Global Information Environment . . . and exploiting or denying an adversary's information and decision capabilities."<4>

This "systems" approach to the study of information warfare emphasizes the use of data, referred to as information, to penetrate an adversary's physical defenses that protect data (information) in order to obtain operational or strategic advantage. It has tended to ignore the role of the human body as an information- or data-processor in this quest for dominance except in those cases where an individual's logic or rational thought may be upset via disinformation or deception. As a consequence little attention is directed toward protecting the mind and body with a firewall as we have done with hardware systems. Nor have any techniques for doing so been prescribed. Yet the body is capable not only of being deceived, manipulated, or misinformed but also shut down or destroyed--just as any other data-processing system. The "data" the body receives from external sources--such as electromagnetic, vortex, or acoustic energy waves--or creates through its own electrical or chemical stimuli can be manipulated or changed just as the data (information) in any hardware system can be altered.

The only body-related information warfare element considered by the United States is psychological operations (PSYOP). In Joint Publication 3-13.1, for example, PSYOP is listed as one of the elements of command and control warfare. The publication notes that "the ultimate target of is the information dependent process, whether human or automated . . . . Command and control warfare (C2W) is an application of information warfare in military operations. . . . C2W is the integrated use of PSYOP, military deception, operations security, electronic warfare and physical destruction."<5>

One source defines information as a "nonaccidental signal used as an input to a computer or communications system."<6> The human body is a complex communication system constantly receiving nonaccidental and accidental signal inputs, both external and internal. If the ultimate target of information warfare is the information-dependent process, "whether human or automated," then the definition in the joint publication implies that human data-processing of internal and external signals can clearly be considered an aspect of information warfare. Foreign researchers have noted the link between humans as data processors and the conduct of information warfare. While some study only the PSYOP link, others go beyond it. As an example of the former, one recent Russian article described offensive information warfare as designed to "use the Internet channels for the purpose of organizing PSYOP as well as for `early political warning' of threats to American interests."<7> The author's assertion was based on the fact that "all mass media are used for PSYOP . . . today this must include the Internet." The author asserted that the Pentagon wanted to use the Internet to "reinforce psychological influences" during special operations conducted outside of US borders to enlist sympathizers, who would accomplish many of the tasks previously entrusted to special units of the US armed forces.
(snip)

on edit: had that "Laugh In" line wrong,

[ConsAreLiars]

15. Do advertiser's buy time for any other reason?

No need to worry about techniques - subliminal stuff, sex&violence, TVscrollers, whatever - communications channels have always been used by those who can to do just this. They will use whatever works. As for conscious intent by media producers, it doesn't matter how they regard their service and/or sycophantism - they are being used in any case.

[Octafish]

18. US Army PsyOps "Interns" at CNN ring any bells?

Preparing the public mind for Bushspeak? A practice runaround for 9-11? Speaking in tongues for Pat Robertson flashbacks? Like Bushler hisself, I just dunno...

Why Were Government Propaganda Experts Working On News At CNN?

March 27, 2000

Reports in the Dutch newspaper Trouw (2/21/00, 2/25/00) and France's Intelligence Newsletter (2/17/00) have revealed that several officers from the US Army's 4th Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) Group at Ft. Bragg worked in the news division at CNN's Atlanta headquarters last year, starting in the final days of the Kosovo War.

In the U.S. media, so far only Alexander Cockburn, columnist for The Nation and co-editor of the newsletter CounterPunch, has picked up on the story. Cockburn's column on the subject is available at http://www.counterpunch.org.

The story is disturbing. In the 1980s, officers from the 4th Army PSYOPS group staffed the National Security Council's Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), a shadowy government propaganda agency that planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration's Central America policies.

A senior US official described OPD as a "vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory." (Miami Herald, 7/19/87) An investigation by the congressional General Accounting Office found that OPD had engaged in "prohibited, covert propaganda activities," and the office was soon shut down as a result of the Iran-Contra investigations. But the 4th PSYOPS group still operates.

CONTINUED...

http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-psyops.html

[onebigbadwulf]

19. He's right, SUBLIMs don't work

but non-sublims work just like mind control.

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[VOX]

23. The RW & media certainly *do* engage in an effective sales technique...

Repetition. Repeat the message often enough, and impressionable people will pick it up.

You've got RW talk radio, Faux News, etc. all on message, working from the RNC talking points -- so the messages are going to be repeated. Often.

Example: Saddam has nukes. Saddam has nukes. Saddam has nukes.
Next thing you know, out of your apolitical brother-in-law's mouth at the Thanksgiving dinner table comes: "Saddam has nukes."

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[cycleberg]

25. neuroscience & consumers

I understand that alot of this article is gab & hype, but the idea that marketing is using neuroscience to gage sale-ability is pretty creepy, especially if one applies it to media markets. (Harvard?)

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/magazine/26BRAINS.html?ex=1069304400&en=1b7f950621bb50ac&ei=5070

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Measuring brand influence might seem like an unusual activity for a neuroscientist, but Montague is just one of a growing breed of researchers who are applying the methods of the neurology lab to the questions of the advertising world. Some of these researchers, like Montague, are purely academic in focus, studying the consumer mind out of intellectual curiosity, with no corporate support. Increasingly, though, there are others -- like several of the researchers at the Mind of the Market Laboratory at Harvard Business School -- who work as full-fledged ''neuromarketers,'' conducting brain research with the help of corporate financing and sharing their results with their sponsors. This summer, when it opened its doors for business, the BrightHouse Institute for Thought Sciences in Atlanta became the first neuromarketing firm to boast a Fortune 500 consumer-products company as a client. (The client's identity is currently a secret.) The institute will scan the brains of a representative sample of its client's prospective customers, assess their reactions to the company's products and advertising and tweak the corporate image accordingly.
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[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. operation mockingbird

[smallprint]

27. Two words:

Manufacturing Consent.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. 4th branch of the government...Media

[blm]

47. 4th branch of the GOP govt...Media.

Big difference.

[lostnfound]

29. And when done reading Mfg Consent, you might try "Into the Buzzsaw"

for essays by reporters whose stories got slammed shut by overt pressure. 99% of what's missing from the news is because of ("Manufacturing Consent"-style) subtle, not-overt pressures of advertisers' "natural selection" -- but for a look at the other 1% that's shut out because of direct overt pressure, Into the Buzzsaw was interesting.

[Devilock]

32. Very good

I'm reading it right now -- first time. (Just finished What Liberal Media? so times are sweet, hehe.)

Greg Palast is the man. I just saw, also for the first time, one of the documentaries on the 2000 election (on WorldLink TV, of course); oh, the horror.

Speaking of which, we've all seen the reactions of news talking heads whenever anyone brings up the stolen election of 2000. It's the "oh boy, here we go again," response and, inappropriate as it is, it's widespread and mimicked unquestioningly. THAT to me is a form of brainwashing, though I believe it goes higher than whoever happens to be on-screen at the time, shaking his/her head dismissively. I don't think Sean Hannity (for instance) is deliberatly engaged in covert mind control tactics, but I DO realize that treating with disdain a legitimate issue which was never properly reported (though it WAS investigated), DOES succeed in manipulating public opinion. I have a friend who shares many of my political beliefs, and even he began to complain of liberals' bringing up the election, the anti-war protests, and the subversion of 9/11 investigations. But when I would ask him about these things in particular, on varying occasions, he was supportive. It was only while ACTUALLY WATCHING THE NEWS that he would sneer at people like myself.

Be smarter than your TV.

[smallprint]

38. That's a good one too.

That's the book for people who believe that the media can print "anything they want."

[Jacobin]

31. I don't think there is any doubt about it

My head spins when I flip through channels trying to find "news". It's all propaganda and any bad news is softly and carefully broken with blame-shifting built in. Any mention of any dem is done with a tongue in cheek "aren't these guys idiots" tone. Anything concerning RWers is presented with a worshipful tone.

The tone and manner of presentation is clearly coordinated, however informally.

It's all propaganda and pablum.

Until 15 years ago, the job of the media was universally regarded to be the "watchdog of the government". It was considered honorable and proper to question power and probe for dishonesty or mistakes. That is no longer true. We no longer have an independent free press.

We are now the Fascist Theocracy of America. It's sad that the country is gone.

[JackRiddler]

39. 15 years?

Bullshit. The system has been employing the principles of scientific public relations for 100 years. Manufactured consent was successfully achieved after WW2 (McCarthyism played the role of the "Buzzsaw.")

At that point, the hidden government began to steer all of the media and the academics for all they were worth. (Read University and Empire, edited by Christopher Simpson, for an overview of how the Pentagon and CIA explicitly set out to finance and impose the Cold War mentality in Area Studies, Social Psychology, International Relations...)

The techniques keep developing. Full orchestration of the media into a permanent campaign of hysteria and stupefaction was achieved starting in 1980.

I can even date it: the moment when the ABC Nightly News was cancelled and replaced overnight by a program called, "Day XX: America Held Hostage." From that moment the fully mature general mind control system has been in place. All limits of imagined standards and self-control were gone; everything was openly allowable.

Draw a straight line to two years worth of OJ TV, followed by two years of Clinton's Dick, followed by an eternity of 9/11...

[dbt]

40. The News Is Now "Product"

To be sold like BMW's and Big Macs. Moreover, the medium is the message far beyond Marshall McLuhan's worst nightmares.

The overriding sales message is (depending on your network preference):

Consume Fox
Consume CNN
Consume MSNBC
etc

All other messages/products/behavior modifications serve the Central Thesis. The political direction of any network can be ascertained by careful study of its major advertisers.

TV is ALL ABOUT MIND CONTROL. And there's nothing COVERT about it!

:argh:
dbt

[JackRiddler]

45. The BUG

All networks now broadcast their logo in the corner (in some cases animated) for 24 hours (not including commercial time). Whatever you call it, this is what qualifies as an effective subliminal: something borderline/just under the threshold of consciousness for most people. A lot of people don't even notice the bug is there, most of the time. But in the end the image of the network logo has been burned into their eyeballs for hours.

It's not the subliminal, it's the liminal that's really key... the preconscious, the subtle.

[maggrwaggr]

53. yeah but I think they do that so it can't be "borrowed"

and used without permission. It's like a watermark.

[JackRiddler]

56. Sure...

does that make it any less liminal (i.e., just above, at or below the threshold of consciousness) and hence manipulative? If they want a watermark, they could choose something less intrusive than the bug (a three-pixel gray dot in the lower left corner, for example. Btw, I like how the bug suddenly disappers at commercial breaks.) The bug is in effect a 24-hour ad for the station that works liminally. Once it's in place for longer than a day or a year, "in effect" becomes "planned effect." The aesthetics of it seem irrelevant; and all stations now collude in this particular scam, no one challenges it, not even "arty movie channels." Here in Germany, even the public stations have gone for it. They feel compelled by the "need for strong product identity as a prerequisite of commercial survival."

Much that is mind control arises from the logic of commercial survival. But once it exists, it is no less mind control, and a technique once developed can be transported to other cases.

[blm]

41. I saw that, too. CNN is spook central.

But, they are not the good guys of the intel community. The spooks at CNN are definite Bush loyalists.

[Beetwasher]

43. There's Definitely A Concerted Effort

To sway public opinion. The methods used vary and may include subliminal messaging. However, according to studies that I've seen, subliminal messaging is NOT effective.

What's probably more effective and what I see more of is overt repetition of similar themes and soundbites across a wide spectrum of media outlets as well as the use of emotionally charged language to elicit emotionally charged responses. It's more of a social conditioning phenomenon. In a sense, quite Pavlovian.

For example, a large segement of the population now says "liberal" in a sneering and derogatory fashion. "Liberal" has become an emotionally charged word that elicits a negative emotional connotation in a large segment of the population. This was no accident.

These techniques are certainly not new. The Advertising world uses this all the time and so have politicians. What IS new is the use of these techniques by mediums that were up until fairly recently supposed to be objective. Of course, I'm talking about the press. What's dangerous is that people are not yet accustomed to a non-objective press. Historically the press was supposed to be above this sort of thing. Now that the press is almost wholly corrupted and/or corruptible and large segments of it are outright propoganda tools for the rightwing, there is a major crisis in this country as a result. People in a sense are conditioned to believe what is perceived to be "the news". Think Walter Cronkite etc, who has now been replaced w/ the likes of Rush and Hannity.

[kentuck]

44. MSNBC had the same poll result...

Why would they have to ask if there was not a question about it?

It's intent is to dispel the doubts that are in so many people's minds about the direction he has taken our country.

Intentional or not, that is the effect. They "implant" a false concept in viewers' minds...

[nolabels]

46. Have some people missed the boat?

I read through a lot of this thread and wondered where some people have been. Here are a couple links to look at

You've been indoctrinated into a Psychological Civil War
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=606496

Or try this (lots of stuff out there, just key it up, the stuff is for real)

http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~mcglonem/prop.html

Propaganda and Psychological Warfare
Research Resource


"Persuasive efforts are labelled propagandistic when someone judges that the action which is the goal of the persuasive effort will be advantageous to the persuader but not in the best interests of the persuadee. There are no objective techniques for determining the best interests of the persons involved in a persuasive effort. Consequently the social psychologist does not decide whether or not a given effort is propagandistic. Propaganda comes into psychology as a judgment made by others. We can study propaganda as we can study good and evil. We don't make the judgments but we can study the phenomena so judged."
-- Roger Brown, Words and Things (1958)

LINK DIRECTORY
(snip)

[nolabels]

49. A little kick here

A lot of people on the net are way past this stuff now, so what they did as it pertains to Internet today is probably inert, but just think back in the day, you know

http://www.mail-archive.com/[e-mail]/msg09634.html

The purpose is to divert you all from discussing the substantive issues.
As soon as the standard Company "dirty tricks" are brought up, then all
kinds of nitwits come out of the woodwork to start flame wars and
commence e-mail and other harassments of the critic in order to
obfuscate the issues.

The following are issues The Company would rather not confirm or deny:

1.CIA training of assassins and Latin American death squads. Read
anything you can on the School of the Americas (known fondly as The
School of Assassins.) You will find alumni such as the illustrious
Manuel Noriega.
2.CIA rigging of elections, especially now in conjunction with the
"National Endowment for Democracy" or NED.

3.The "standard practices" of CIA, including propaganda via "friendly"
reporters in the American press, and the publishing of books via CIA
proprietary companies that pass themselves off as private commercial
enterprises. (Beware especially of former KGB officials who author these
pieces of trash as "vigorish" for being allowed to live in the US.)

4.The subversion of labor, educational, cultural, student, political,
and military organizations at home and abroad.

5.The illegal opening and interception of U.S. citizen's mail and
electronic correspondence. In case you're tempted to tell me they are
prohibited from doing this domestically, they get around these
proscriptions by multi-lateral agreements with the intelligence agencies
of other countries. It amounts to "we'll spy on your people and give you
the take if you return the favor." So, Britain's GCHQ may intercept your
phone call instead of NSA, and everything will be "legal," but your
privacy is still violated nonetheless.
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[JackRiddler]

51. kicky-poo

[frank frankly]

52. kick

:kick:

[nolabels]

54. Here is some fun stuff

http://www.artelevision.com/styrofoamheads/index2.htm

http://members.aol.com/psychneuro/subliminal/HowItWorks.html

How and Why Does it Work ?
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There simply is not enough information available to our senses to solve some of the perceptual problems we manage to solve routinely, unless we were already prepared with assumptions. That's why psychologists are so obsessed with illusions, they reveal the assumptions we make in perception.

Meaning derives from personal and physical experience. Awareness is intimately dependent upon meaning, meaning derived from prior experience. The manner in which prior experience structures our perception and action is guided by the unconscious processing of subtle cues and the imagery and emotions triggered by those subtle cues. (See Imagination Underlies Perception).

Sensory perception begins as unconscious detection of features and then becomes aware at some point if sufficient higher processing area neurons are activated. This can be shown in the brain as a distinction between changes corresponding to noticing, vs. changes in response to stimuli. (Lumer et al, 1998; Schall, 1999)

There are five basic phenomena of subliminal stimulation:

1. Mere Exposure Effect -- Exposure to an image without awareness predisposes us to prefer that image over others.

2. Poetzl Effect -- Words or images perceived without awareness appear in altered form in imagery and dreams some short time later.

3. Affective Priming -- Exposure to an emotionally compelling image without awareness causes us to respond emotionally without knowing why.

4. Semantic Priming -- Exposure to a word without awareness tends to bias our perception of subsequent words for a fraction of a second.

5. Psychodynamic Activation -- Exposure to certain kinds of fantasy images or suggestion without awareness can influence mental state or psychosocial adaptation in a meaningful and persistent way.

More ? See Subliminal
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[ElsewheresDaughter]

55. they absofuckinglutely!...... must read "The New Rulers of the World" by

Pilger, 2003...you will tremble with fear....weep with shame...and shake with rage at what has been done in our name...the press is gov't