Hey Clarkies I've got a grievance with your guy!

[sasquatch]

Your guy was quoted in USA TOday that the #1 priority should be the capture of Saddam. No you fool the #1 priority for us in Iraq is

to get us the fuck out before more of our men are slaughtered.

If Clark wants to truly defeat Saddam then keep the sanctions lifted, leave and let a middle class develop. Why is a middle class important for the Iraqi people you ask? Because that's where the revolution comes from. Are revolutionary war leaders were from the middle class, the middle class is necasary because the revolution needs funding and the middle class has just enough to help out. A little help from our CIA in giving them the weapons and Saddam is in front of a Shiitte, Sunni or Kurdish court on trial for crimes against humanity. That's the only way it can happen Clark. If he truly is not a DLC whore and a grassroots canidate like you claim he is I wan't him to change his stance on this because you asked him to. BTW if you support our millitary occupation in Iraq please reconsider it before someone you or I know or love dies needlessly:)

[SahaleArm]

1. How about giving a source link and context?

tOSU, pfft :evilgrin:

[FrenchieCat]

2. This isn't Faux News is it....

Or Tim Russert in disguise. Can you provide a link when pronouncing that "I've got a problem with your guy".

Damm! getting tired thinking one can yell and not support the yelling!

Hurry up!

I ain't got all night!

[SahaleArm]

3. Article link here

Retired general Wesley Clark warned Sunday that the failure to capture Saddam Hussein was likely to undermine any new Iraqi government. And he said it was important to capture Saddam alive so he could be tried for war crimes.

...

Clark said capturing Saddam should be ''a high priority,'

http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20031117/5685050s.htm

Nowhere in the article did Clark mention it was the only priority. Are you suggesting we cut and run from Iraq?

[sasquatch]

9. Yes

I don't no if you've noticed but they hate our fucking guts. I guess you like moms and dads crying as their sons and daughters come home in body bags and the BCF doesn't even give enough of a shit to show up and mourn with them. You truly are sick. Besides who gives a shit there's nothing there and all of this "building a democracy" shit is for the birds. They'd wipe there asses with our form of goverment then tell us to fuck off and repay them for what we broke. Which we should do and let them rebuild there country however in the fuck they wan't it. Got it.

[Adjoran]

4. How many Iraqis

would be slaughtered in the civil war bound to ensue if we leave now?

You can be against the war itself, and still recognize that we owe a safe and stable environment to the Iraqi people when we leave. I agree with General Clark: doing that probably makes the capture of Saddam necessary.

My late mother often told me, "Everyone makes mistakes, all the time. That's okay. What is important is how you deal with it. Make it right if you possibly can, make it better if you can't make it right. But never make it worse. A person is measured, not by their mistakes, but in how they go about correcting their mistakes."

She also told me, somewhat more often, "You broke it. You fix it."

We still have the opportunity to make things right with the Iraqi people. However misguided the war, we can still leave them better off if we choose to do so. We have to make good on our mistakes to repair our moral standing - not for the world, but for ourselves.

[sujan]

6. leave or stay

It's a dead end.

[SahaleArm]

8. That's a somewhat binary look - How about the middle?

Get international help by handing over political and economic development to the UN and the Iraqi people.

[sasquatch]

11. How many Americans were slaughtered in our Civil War?

412,175 total american combat deaths in our civil war according to this link= http://www.thehistoryguy.com/american_war_casualties.html
Does that mean the British should still be occupying us because those damned yanks are from the worst of society's and can't live peacfully. I know how people like you are trained to think non-white people can't build civilazations but I hate to tell you the truth that htey've been doing it before you ever did.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Well yea....duh.....

I prefer to capture Saddam alive than dead...Like we really need to watch pictures of a dead guy on my CNN TV screen for 4 days constantly.

Mediawhores would love it though!

[FrenchieCat]

7. And a trial would be good....

dontcha think? Sounds pretty reasonable, humanistic and democratic to me.

So what's your beef? Since you put out the cattle call.

[kaitykaity]

10. Locking.

Please see rule #2 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=463744

[BootinUp]

12. Even with the best plan at this point

It's going to take a lot of hard work, help from other countries, luck, and time.

You can't win hearts and minds of a nation like Iraq in 1 month, 3 months, 8 months, or even 2 years. I don't care what Bush, CNN, or whoever says. This was a long term deal when we went in. Get used to the idea and elect either John Kerry or Clark to lead it.

no flames just debate :)