Is Wesley Clark "the one"?

[chimpymustgo]

As many of you know, I am a huge John Edwards fan - love the optimism, charisma, fresh ideas, "electability", wife and kids...I could go on.

I also like John Kerry - distinguished service to the country, smart thoughtful leader.

I just finished listening to the Clark on FOX smackdown. Then I read through his website. Also noticed another thread on favorites for the Dem ticket where Clark was named for the number one or two spot on nearly ALL of them.

Of course, there's plenty of time to make the decision, but I just had this feeling that Wesley Clark may well be "the one".

The one who can take our fight right to them in an incredibly thoughtful and dignified way. The one who reflects our ideals and vision for the country. The one who would truly be a uniter: uniting Democrats first, and then the country.

I feel a great of confidence in having this man in the White House, leading and inspiring our country and the world.

I think a Clark/Edwards ticket would be a force of nature. But Clark/Kerry, Clark/Graham, Clark/(your name here) would probably work too.

[Racenut20]

1. God I hope so !!!!!!

[AmericanDem]

2. he is the ONE

putting his great resume aside. Clark thinks and acts like the average everyday American. he is the real deal. cares only for America to grow and be respected like we use to be.

[HoosierClarkie]

56. TOP 10 REASONS WHY CLARK WILL WIN IN 04! He's on Letterman this week.

Before I write this let me just tell you that I am 26 years old and never voted before or been politically active in anyway. I have been inspired by Clark. Never would I have imagined that I would be writting letters to people or canvassing door-to-door in the freezing cold. Have I gone nuts? No. Simply, Clark's conviction for this country and the great people in it is just contagious! He brings people like me in and that is what needs to happen for the Democratic Party.
I am new at this so please do not beat me up. I just thought these were funny. I am no David Letterman, but I am from Muncie,IN :)

TOP 10 REASONS WHY CLARK WILL WIN IN 04!
10) because the only time he says "bring it on" is when he is talking to Fox!
9) because someone thinks voters can not remember that phrase "I am a son of a mill worker"!
8) because he doesn't believe in rolling up his sleeves to his armpits!
7) because not only can he spell Slobodan Milosevic, but he can pronounce it too!
6) because his Military Uniform is government issued, not Rove issued!
5) because those other guys are terrorizing each other!
4) because "compassionate conservative" is not in the dictionary!
3) because he wrote the book on "Winning Modern War"!
2)because that one guys favorite beer actually is bush light!
1)because Wes believes War should be the "last resort", but DON'T YOU DARE TWIST HIS WORDS!

Like I said I just thought these were funny. :)
By the way I love his TV ad.

[BootinUp]

60. I Love it...very funny

But I suggest taking #10 and making it #1, it killed me. :nuke:

[Tatiana]

71. WOO HOO!!!!!

That was GREAT! Welcome to the Wes Wing!

[SammyWinstonJack]

72. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[Hippo_Tron]

74. LOL can spell and pronounce Slobodan Milosevic, that's great n/t

[LittleApple81]

3. I am still ABB but I LIKE Clark and I LIKE Edwards. So your

hypothetical ticket would be lovely.
I saw is Fox interview and that really swayed me towards Clark today.

[chimpymustgo]

7. The Fox interview blew me away. Clark should turn it into a campaign ad!

It has been described as a "defining moment" for Clark. It may have been a defining moment for the Democratic Party.

[radwriter0555]

4. No. The future of this country does not lie with a military man..

sorry.

[slinkerwink]

I agree with you....

:nods:

[radwriter0555]

43. Lol, sorry, but I don't like dean either.

None of these fellas out front now will hold the course for the long run.

If edwards runs, he will 'win' even though it really is a given that the gop will lie about, cheat and steal the next election again.

We're screwed.

[AmericanDem]

9. it doesn't?

so your take on things is, the future of this country lies in the hands of a career politican that spent all of his political life in the middle of the road but now does everything he can to convince those in the Democratic party he is a liberal savior?

Clark thinks acts and knows he is one of us... and best thing he is NO politican :).

[slinkerwink]

13. uh.....but can he actually push important legislation through in Congress?

I doubt it....and Dean's never claimed to be a liberal---he's touted his fiscal conservatism at every turn.

[AmericanDem]

14. u bet he could!

that is why he will pick a great VP for that part of his candidacy.

he holds several degrees 1 is in economics. the man is NO slouch!

[democratreformed]

16. Also,

he has vast experience in diplomacy and working together with others, both friend and foe, to get things done.

What's really funny is that just last night, in reading the conclusion to his first book, he made the point that many of America's allies do not realize the difficulty of getting something through Congress. That tells me that he knows what he would be up against (in fact, he has helped others in that area before) and that he will deal with it.

For me, he is THE ONE. For others who will never accept his military background, I respectfully agree to disagree.

[slinkerwink]

19. yes, but knowledge of how difficult it is to pass legislation does not

belie any actual experience........Dean has that in spades. Clark doesn't----he might be unprepared for a huge legislative gridlock in Congress if he's elected.

[Spazito]

30. Well, Clark starts with at least one advantage, he didn't call

Congress members cockroaches. Calling people you want to work WITH cockroaches doesn't seem to me to be a wise choice of words.

[slinkerwink]

82. well, Dean got multiple endorsement from members of Congress

yesterday and today....

[AmericanDem]

31. Dean, another life long politician

spent most of his political career in the middle of the road and now has latched on to liberalism to gain voters.

that is A typical life long politician behavior. he tries to say the perfect thing in the perfect setting. at least when Clark speaks it comes from how he feels aka flag burning issue and i repect that.

clark didnt have life too easy worked for everything he got. dean on the other hand had a life of priilege, heck he even admitted taken 1 year off to go skiing before entering college. Clark was in Vietnam gettinmg shot while dean was playing slacker.

I try to be open minded but i have to tell you that really makes me wince

[AmericanDem]

20. yes thanks

i didnt feel like writing an essay. lol

[BootinUp]

15. valid question

Seems like this largely depends on having a strong mandate from the electorate. At least for the big campaign issues he pushes. Beyond that he would need to build an effective team to get the job done. So far I have seen nothing to suggest he can't do that.

[Skwmom]

23. Clark has a much better chance of pushing legislation

through Congress than Howard. He will be viewed as a non-partisan and can go around Congress if need be and appeal to the american public to put pressure on Congress. Dean on the other hand would put the gridlock and hatred in Washington in overdrive and could well lead to the Repubs getting a veto proof Congress.

[paulk]

32. the same argument could be used against Dean

Former Governors usually don't do well with Congress at first. Clark, like Dean, will need to balance his ticket with someone from Congress. Which is why I don't see a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

48. Of Course He Could, You Act Like It's Brain Surgery

To push legislation through Congress, all you need are advisors who are schooled in the arcana of drafting legislation and advancing procedural motions in the House and Senate (and I note that Dean, as a former governor, will need the exact same advisors), the ability to forge relationships within and across party lines (Clark will be able to do this within party lines as well as Dean who is also an "outsider" and he will be able to do it much better than Dean across party lines for obvious reasons), and the strength and vision to take the bully pulpit on occasion.

Clark has experience where it COUNTS, in foreign policy and international relations. It's much harder to rely on advisors in that context, than it is on legislation.

DTH

[mikehiggins]

52. We elect Presidents, not advisors.

A good example of why you shouldn't depend on advisors was Al Gore's campaign in 2000.

I always remember a L'll Abner cartoon from way back (and please don't beat me up if I get this wrong, okay?).

There was a major character who was a big time industrialist and who wanted to do something. His lawyers/advisors told him it was illegal and couldn't be done.

He told them that he didn't pay them to tell him what he couldn't do, he paid them to tell him how to do what he wanted to do. End of story.

The President can rely on advisors but in the end, as Truman said, the buck stops with him. Clark is smart enough to rely on advisors, but not dumb enough to depend on them. If he's elected he'll find a way to get his agenda through Congress, one way or another.

BUT, at the end of the day, the most important thing is ABBA

[shanti]

33. just because of the fact

that one isn't a politician (i.e., arnold gropenator - hello!), doesn't make them better AT ALL! this is something that needs to be decided on a case by case basis.

i'm sticking with dean all the way! no career military men!

[radwriter0555]

53. Our greatest presidents were career politicians, not war makers...

I have no problem with someone who has devoted their life to public service in politics.

I have a problem with someone who has lived a life using aggression, death, power and might to further political interests.

[L.A.dweller]

26. "Military man."

Yeah, what a great description. Clark has a degree in philosophy, economics, and political science.

[SEAburb]

47. I guess you didn't approve of Jimmy Carter, either //nt

??????????????

[faithfulcitizen]

65. fact is, we are electing a war-time president

yes, Bush had no experience when he went in, but they will keep playing that same old tune "who will keep us safe?" As if it's bush, but that's going to be the mantra. So, who are we going put up against him? Clark is the one, no question. The beautiful thing is, Clark will be less inclined to send our troops to war and sides with people like Albright, Clinton, Holbrooke, in terms of diplomacy helping we can (Kosovo). (unlike most 4-star generals)Which really pisses off the top brass. He is simply a very unique general, with extraordinary skills in a very unique and extraordinary time in history.

[Barbara917]

92. It took non-military men to lead us into war.

All I can say to those who are uncomfortable about having a military man as President is that respectfully I believe they are looking at it the wrong way.

We have a committee of non-military men (save Powell) who are casually using our military and our soldiers as pawns in some geo-political chess game. They don't see the faces of those they send to war. They refuse to look at the coffins that come back. They don't provide proper medical care or paychecks on-time. They don't see them.

Clark sees their faces because he is one of them and has been for 34 years. Don't take my word for it. Why not read this retired soldier's firsthand accounts http://cris.forclark.com/ of how Clark treats those who serve with him.

The General will be the last man to take us to war if there is any other way and the best man to get us out with honor.

[Renew Deal]

5. He is the one

[On the Road]

6. To Quote the Oracle:

"Sorry, kiddo."

[L.A.dweller]

22. Ah, spoiler

nt

[Julien Sorel]

45. And we know what happened with that prediction.

[glarius]

8. I'm a non-American sticking my nose in....GO CLARK !!!

From the first this man has impressed me with his global view and intelligence....He was saying early on that since George Bush has alienated many world leaders, America needs to mend fences with her former allies and that would be one of his priorities....With his war hero background wouldn't he appeal to Republicans disenchanted with Bush and Independents?....If you really want to win the White House, he sounds like a good bet to me.... :shrug:

[AmericanDem]

75. Most here know that

Most here are also guided by their desire to see the candidiate they were backing long before Clark came on the seen, win. Its great they are loyal but they refuse to look at the bigger picture of taking down Bush.

Like you have said not only will Clark have the backing of the Democratic party he will also take away a chunk of the republican base.

[Tatiana]

10. He's the best choice we have.

And he's a damn good one.

I'll still always believe in my heart of hearts that Kerry is the one MOST QUALIFIED for the position. But there is something about Clark that really appeals to me.

He's an intellectual, but he's a fighter too. Typically, our party has been represented by one or the other, but never had a convergence or melding of both qualities. That's why he faces opposition from both sides. The warriors hate the fact that he's a "brainiac," highly-learned, well-read, and decidedly astute. They don't like his emphasis on diplomacy or war as a last resort. The intellectuals hate the fact that he's a military man, who can and will use force if it ever becomes necessary. They dislike his forcefulness and his air of authority.

In my opinion, we've got the best of both worlds. Clark is both an optimist and a realist. I do believe he has what this country needs in terms of leadership to get this country back on track.

[SaintLouisBlues]

66. I like the way you think, Tatiana

n/t

[imhotep]

11. No

I didn't spend the last 2-3 years protesting war to turn around and elect a fucking general.

[shanti]

35. thank you!

gmta :pals:

[AmericanDem]

49. well not Bush's war but

Are you saying you wouldnt want war in the case of America defending itself also?

That is why, more then ever we need a man like Clark in office. Not only was he a four start general but the man was shot many time while in Vietnam. He knows more then anyone how bad war can be and it should only be used to defend ourselves.

The fact that a draft dodger and AWOL soldier lead us into this war says everything.

[retyred]

90. You won't be

We will!


Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[onehandle]

12. I lean that direction...

But will fight like Hell for any of the nine remaining.

[dfong63]

17. 2 years ago he was fundraising for the GOP. where's the vision?

Clark is a slick opportunist who switched parties when he saw which way the wind was blowing. he has no political track record. two years from now, who can say which way Clark will be reading the winds?

[Renew Deal]

27. 2 years ago he was fundraising for the Democrats. where's the vision?

Clark spoke at the Jefferson-Jackson day dinner in AR after the GOP event. Clark was never registered with any party. He was asked to run for office by both parties. He decided to run as a Democrat. BTW, Clark contributed to Erskine Bowles and campaigned with Max Cleland. He has voted with us since Clinton in 92. I can sit hear and indict all the candidates and especially Dean for their various evolving positions. No one can predict where anyone of them will be. But Clark works off a core set of principals and stands by them. At the beginning of the campaign he said he will keep his word through out his campaign. He has so far. I expect that going into the WH.

[jumptheshadow]

39. So where does Dean stand on the flag amendment:?

And who's the opportunist?

From Joe Conason:

Several readers distressed by Wesley Clark's remarks supporting the flag desecration amendment wrote in to declare that they had dropped their support of the retired general in favor of Howard Dean. But others pointed out what I didn't know about Dean's own record on this issue. Two years ago, as governor of Vermont, he brokered a legislative resolution that urged Congress to "take whatever legislative action it deems necessary and appropriate to honor and safeguard the United States Flag." While a bit vague, that sounded much like an endorsement of the Constitutional amendment.

Around that time, Dean rather pompously declared that politicians should declare their positions on the flag issue before voters went to the polls in 2002. That requirement didn't apply to Dean himself, as he "coyly" told the Rutland Herald, because he wasn't on the ballot that year. So now that he is running for president, the candidate who prides himself in speaking bluntly should explain the limits of his support for the First Amendment -- in plain English.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2003/11/14/friday/index.html

[jumptheshadow]

58. Clark is a public servant

He sees the depth of our country's crisis. And he's stepping forward and placing himself smack in the middle of the RW crosshairs because he sincerely believes he can help.

[retyred]

91. If I were you

I would show Clark just how much you dislike him by not voting for him, that's what I'd do.....if I were you!



Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[Renew Deal]

18. Clark/(your name here)

That's pretty funny. Unfortunately I am not old enough. :silly:

[Frederic Bastiat]

21. Yes he is eom

[ElementaryPenguin]

24. Yes. Clark/Dean Dean/Clark Clark/Dean Dean/Clark is the one!

Having said that - the fact is, the Dems can't have too many viable candidates - and I refuse to bash any (except Holy Joe, who doesn't count!)

[RichM]

25. No. The worshipful tone you are adopting is embarrassing. Gen. Clark

seems like a decent sort, especially if you consider that he's spent his entire career ensconced in conservative milieus.

I acknowledge that his FOX smackdown made for a very strong TV moment -- it was by far the best I've seen him. But the core of his campaign so far has expressed an inadequate & superficial analysis of the current crisis.

[chimpymustgo]

29. Worshipful? No. Hopeful? Yes.

Really, you're reading more into my words than are there. I think it's another camp that requires worship.

[Pastiche423]

28. Nope

I agree w/posters #4, 6, 11, 17 and 19.

[Rowdyboy]

34. Of course

And I agree with all the rest-as usual. (Original post,1,2,3,5,7,8,9,10,12,13,15,16,21,23,24,26,29,
30,31,32)

I'll take my odds anyday.

[AmericanDem]

36. perhaps you should use your own voice

instead of jus following others.

[Rowdyboy]

37. I did no more than the previous poster...

What more could I add? I see no point in repetition of facts ad infinitum when the point has already been well made. Unlike some here, I don't get off dredging up the same crapp time after time to bash Clark, Dean and Kerry-because one of them is our future.

[Pastiche423]

50. Oh, I have used my own voice

many, many, many timeson this board.

But just for you, since you are new, I shall use my own voice once again.

On September 3, 2003 clark was not a Democrat. He did not become a Democrat until October 17, 2003.

When he filled out his FEC form to enter the race, he wrote in "UNK" as his party affliation. A copy of that form w/his signature was posted here, at DU.

So, when he offically declared his intention to run, HE WAS NOT A DEMOCRAT!

clark voted for Nixon, Reagan, TWICE! and Poppy. He spoke at a repug fundraiser, two years ago. He praised whistle ass et al in May 2003! He stated he liked and would like to work again w/PNACers.

Kosovo. Innocent men, women and children. Depeleted uranium. Cluster bombs. Bombed journalists. Pristina Airport.

Upon being fired from the military, he went to work as a lobbyist for Acxiom, a BIG Brother U.S. citizen privacy invading company for the Pentagon!

As recent as a week or so ago, he stated he favored an amendment to our Constitution which attacks our Freedom of Speech.

He gave a graduation speech at the School of Americas, praising the graduates! For god's sake! The School of Americas is a terrorists training school!

At a conference in Switzerland, he happened to chat with two prominent Republicans, Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and Marc Holtzman, now president of the University of Denver. "I would have been a Republican," Clark told them, "if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls."

I would have voted for IWR. I would not have voted for IWR, said Wesley "Already the scent of victory is in the air" Clark.

clark is nothing more than an opportunistic, expedient democrat.

I am supporting a Democrat that has talked and walked the Democratic ideology.

[AmericanDem]

54. and to that i say this,

i'll keep it brief and wont debate you on your every opinion.

on Sept 3, Clark was registered Independent and voted for Al Gore in 2000, hence a fairminded free thinking person.

to rebut the rest of your 1 sided opinions would do nothing more then to further inflate your biased ego.

[Pastiche423]

63. Excuse me, those are not just my opinions

but facts. Maybe that is why you not to rebute them?

[jumptheshadow]

55. Oh, you so lighten my day

>>As recent as a week or so ago, he stated he favored an amendment to our Constitution which attacks our Freedom of Speech.<<

Have you ever answered my question about where Dean stands on the amendment?

See post #39.

[Mountainman]

41. I think it is foolish to dismiss someone because he was a military man

There are leadership qualities that Clark has and I think that is why he is so liked around here.

Americans are hungering and thirsting for a real leader that they can trust and get behind and follow.

As a Vietnam vet I would have trusted my life in the hands of General Clark anyday and I would trust him with my country as President and so would the majority of Americans and that's why he is the only one who is trully electable in my book.

[Pastiche423]

51. See my post #50

[AmericanDem]

67. No

Do some work and write. I have seen a few of your replies , saying see this # post etc. What is that about? Is it so hard to write what you feel? Do you honestly think people are lined up waiting to jump thru hoops to see what you write? :)

[DemExpat]

38. I believe he really is.....tho the American people may not

have the insight yet.....

I feel nothing but confidence in his intelligence, his openness to negotiation and refusal to shut out anyone's voice - he truly can be a uniter IMHO.

DemEx

[chimpymustgo]

40. A uniter. That is a critical benefit for the party and the country.

Clark is the one Dem that most here at DU would like to see somewhere on the ticket.

His demeaner is one of collegiality, of finding solutions to move forward.

[VermontDem2004]

42. No not even Edwards

Howard Dean is the "one".

[Kahuna]

44. Wes is the man. He continues to poll the best against...

Bush. I still maintain he is the only one who can beat him.

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. He's "the one"

for me.

[roguevalley]

59. I like dean. I love Clark. Why?

Because Clark sort of embodies the ideal of Greece: A sound
mind in a sound body. That he lived so long in a conservative
milieu says something about his character that he can be a
liberal thinker.

I am disturbed by the notion that being a soldier makes you
unfit to be a President. Most of our Presidents have been
soldiers, many of them careerists and they have served our
country well. There were those who had generational ideas that
no longer hold true but they served to the best of their
ability and the country is stronger for it.

I grew up with body counts on the news from Viet Nam. A number
of my family are dead from it. I hated the military then because
I hated the policy that put us into Viet Nam. It was the same
old story as now. But I don't hate the people stuck with the
policy. They did the best they could do.

I admire Clark. I admire the breadth of his intellect, the
courage with which he confronts the common enemy -Bush Co-
and the way he listens to people. He doesn't shrink from the
hard questions and he doesn't equivocate. He says what he
believes.

I suppose here is where I ask you to name one other candidate
that does that first time, every time. But I won't. I don't
care. Each candidate is chiseling away at the evil one in the
white house. Each one makes him weaker. There are just only
maybe one or two that can do him in.

For me, that is Clark. I have looked at them all. I have
studied their positions. I admire much about all of them
and I wish them all well. But for winning the White House
in an election that will surely determine whether or not
our species survives -and I truly believe that is what is
at stake here- I will vote for Clark.

Aim at me. Fill my arguments full of vitriol. It won't
matter. In the end, the electorate will decide. I personally
hope they decide on Clark. I will support whomever they
chose but I pray its Clark. Bush must go. That in the end
is all that matters.

[BootinUp]

62. Well said (N/T)

[Kahuna]

68. Clark gives me the "warm and fuzzies" too...

That is part of what it takes to sell a canditate. Does he make you feel warm and fuzzy? A lot of people vote based solely on the "warm and fuzzy quotient,

[HoosierClarkie]

83. His speech at Depauw University in Indiana

Right after he announced I had the honor of hearing him speak at Depauw University in Indiana. 3000 people showed up and many of those people were Republicans. Wes had a hard time getting through his speech because of constant applause. When his wife called on the phone in the middle of that speech he said, "that phone is supposed to be off. That was the boss and I do not mean the president." These Republicans holding draft Clark signs were laughing histerically. (we passed the signs out and many did not know what they were) We got a lot of people eager to sign to put him on the ballot that night!This never happens in Indiana folks! He has this amazing ability to appeal to everyone. I was a supporter going in to that speech and I left a believer. He's the only one who can beat Bush.

[mmonk]

57. He could be

and if not, someone has to be.

[hippiechick]

61. Naw, he's not my type ...

...a little too old for me, and I've never gone after Military Men.

:silly:



:hippie:

[moz4prez]

64. admit it!

those of you who admire Clark do so particularly because of his, uh, his übermenschlichkeit, (thank you, babelfish) which is why it is so easy for his detractors to peg him as an opportunist or a nutcase. his abilities are in equal parts blight and blessing. yep.

[sujan]

69. no

[unfrigginreal]

70. Nope

This "uniting Democrats first", is probably the key reason why he isn't "the one." It's just another way of saying that we crawl back into our holes and play nice with the Pukes. That is the part of the Democratic party that took over the Clark campaign, the same folks that have been in charge of the Democratic party while "we" agreed to Bush's tax cuts, preemptively struck Iraq, allowed John Ashcroft to become Attorney General, not to mention the great successes that we've been having in national political races.

I don't doubt that he has the kind of backing to make good things happen for his candidacy and make bad things happen for others, but it won't be because he's "the one".

[BootinUp]

73. Just a thought...

Did you know Clark was against both the IWR and the recent 87B bill? He has spoken out against the wimpy dems in the congress/senate.

[chimpymustgo]

77. "Make bad things happen for others?"

I think Wesley Clark can make good things happen for Democrats and Americans.

[Name removed]

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[Cascadian]

78. I don't think so.

There are many things about Clark that bother me. He seems to waffle a lot and there is no clear agenda and platform about his views. I am sticking with Dean down to the wire.

John

[raysr]

79. Could be

I'm for DK but Clark apparently scares the shit out of them. Where-abouts in the state are you Cascadian? Concrete here.

[Cascadian]

87. I am in Washington state...Seattle to be exact.

eom


John

[LibertyorDeath]

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[Clark Can WIN]

81. Clark/Edwards would sweep the south

I like Edwards very much too. He's a fine man and a gentleman to boot.

Clark is a leader. I didn't believe in them anymore, not since I was a little kid, but he is. I don't agree with every single position of his, but I do the vast majority, and I believe in him. That he can take us back to the White House and begin to repair the serious damage done by the ursurper.

[LibertyorDeath]

84. Shameless kick for Clark

[IndianaGreen]

85. Is Clark "the one"?

You obviously haven't seen Matrix Revolutions.

[gate of the sun]

86. I was talking to my republican mother yesterday

and she said" I saw this general on TV and you know Americans like to elect generals."(she's kind of an idiot)
I said," MOM he's a democrat"
and she said "NO he's not he was a republican until about a week ago"

.....So yes maybe he is the one

[moz4prez]

93. that's not a very nice thing to say about your mom

i mean, we can't ALL be democrats

does she watch all the wrong programs on all the wrong channels? i mean, come on, is it such a scandal to be a registered Independent in a state consisting 95% of Independents?

[Zorra]

88. No. Kucinich is the one.

Clark will be a vast improvement over shrub, but he will not make any attempt to limit the power that transnational corporate monopolies have over the policies of our government. And this is the root cause of most of the problems in the US.

Kucinich will work to break the power that these monopolies have over our government, and try to cure the disease, rather than treat some of the symptoms.

[0rganism]

94. Kucinich would be innoculation, but Clark brings much-needed first aid

I like Kucinich. If I were voting in the Dem primary, I would vote for Kucinich -- except...

Except what?

Except I have no confidence that he can carry Ohio, much less any of the other swing states. He's an outspoken idealist, and while that can play well to a liberal base, it doesn't do what needs to be done to remove bush from office. I think this is why even among Democrats he polls last among the primary candidates. Kucinich would indeed be therapeutic for this nation, but I don't see him beating bush*. Four more years of the moron would be too many.

Clark has a personal magnetism that can inspire people to look away from the "bush mystique", and you gotta admit a lot of Americans have been hypnotized by a heavy barrage of GOPropaganda. We need someone with a strong personality to act "leaderly" and move the body politic away from fascism, while assuring it of safety. Kucinich seems more like Jiminy Cricket -- correctly principled but too easily ignored.

It's all too apparent that the 2004 general election will be won more by charisma and teflon than by issues and idealism. When Kucinich appeared on Fox TV, he was seriously put-off by the nastiness of their "journalists". Clark parried those Fox attacks and countered in a way that shows him to be formidable -- he turned liability into opportunity. If Clark can continue like this, then yes, he's The One.

Pair Neo Clark up with a Morpheus like Fundraiser Dean or Elegant Edwards and we'd have a very powerful ticket.

[retyred]

89. Go with your gut

Through all the smoke, mirrors, finger pointing, screems and false accusations only Clark has kept his eye on the prize and focused his anger where needed. Clark is the one.



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So I Read This Book

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95. It's going with my gut, my brains, and my heart as a matter fact.

Clark/Edwards 2004