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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:44 PM
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CCN: first hand accounts of soldier serving with Clark
From the new CCN www.forclark.com

Here's a first hand account from someone who served with Clark

And from the moment I arrived, General Clark and his wife did everything they could to make me feel welcome. My first assignment was to take the General to his quarters and then to a dinner engagement with NATO officials. After the event, the first thing General Clark asked me was whether I had gotten anything to eat. To most four-star generals, security is an instrument. With General Clark, it was a different story. He always treated his staff like family.

During the war in Kosovo, I saw how deeply compassionate General Clark is. He worried about the pilots who were out on night missions, and he would not go to sleep until he knew the last pilot had bedded down. Instead, he would work in his study, going over the latest intelligence reports and providing updates to the alliance and officials back in Washington. When he finally went to bed, it was only for two hours, and more often than not, he would be awakened by calls. His instruction to me before going to bed was: "Cris, push every call through." No rest for the General.

In fact, I don't think anyone in the U.S. armed forces worked harder than the General. His superiors in Washington, DC knew this. They would often preface their calls by saying, "Don't wake General Clark." All of us who worked for him were amazed by his constant upbeat tempo and energy. We wanted to do everything possible to take care of him because he was doing so much for America and NATO.

And no matter how pressing a situation became, General Clark always stayed calm. I recall when an F-117 went down - the only plane to go down during the entire campaign. In contrast to other officers I knew who would explode in tense moments, General Clark remained calm and efficiently took the necessary steps.


http://cris.forclark.com/bestof/for/2003/11/18/185117/66/jV7EyrSACPw/displaystory//Blog/
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 07:52 PM
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1. Now, there's a man who gives
respect and RECEIVES respect because of it. You know what? That story does not surprise me in the least. It "sounds" like General Clark. He's a kind hearted man. Thanks for posting this.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:05 AM
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45. An Officer Who Did Security For Clark Posted Last Night
And he said that he just retired and was thus able to speak out on behalf of his fellow soldiers...

Apparently, active members of the military may NOT speak out in the General's behalf.

This is what makes Shelton's comments so unsavory. Many who would rebute him are unable to do so.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:04 PM
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2. kick
Great article.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:06 PM
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3. I've always been uneasy with the General thing
I've met a few in my miltary career and was unimpressed. Clark sounds like the exception rather than the rule. Thanks for the post.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:13 PM
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4. This man will make an extraordinary president. e/o/m
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:32 PM
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5. this is heartwarming to hear : a REAL soldier
God I hope this man is part of the team that kick out Bush.
A professional soldier who knows what he is doing with the troubled times ahead.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:43 PM
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7. Plus,
He actually has a heart. I honestly "feel" his sincerity when he says how much he cares about this country, health care, the elderly, the troops, the schools, American Indians and fixing Iraq. He means what he says.

God I hope this man is part of the team that kick out Bush.
A professional soldier who knows what he is doing with the troubled times ahead.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:23 AM
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30. I agree completely...
... I've now seen Clark in a few interviews and read a lot of his words. IMHO, you cannot fake the persona he shows. I admire him a lot and hope that he is part of our solution.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:34 PM
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6. kick
:kick:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:49 PM
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8. He could hardly pose more of a contrast to *.
Can you imagine him saying to put all calls through at night? Doesn't he need 15 hours of sleep, or something?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 08:53 PM
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9. Yup,he goes to bed at 8:00
or 9:00 every night. Lazy ass bum.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:05 PM
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10. Collection of Military Testimonials for Clark
Most of these were gathered together by someone who posted them weeks back on the general blog running at the Clark official web site. I added a few more that I had pulled off the open letters written to Clark during the Draft Clark days. Sorry if the formats differ, and I warn you, this is a long post. But all of it involves comments made by people who worked with Clark in the military.

Gerry Smith, West Point Classmate
Gerry SMITH continues to send occasional emails from the Balkans and
recently made some observations that are quite laudatory of Wes
CLARK. " As I travel around Kosovo and visit business owners and
presidents, so many have calendars, posters and photos with Wes
Clark's visage in their offices. While they speak with respect of the
Clintons, Holbrookes, and Walkers, they speak with awe and reverence
for Wes. I am always treated nicely by those I visit. Invariably, in
the small talk that follows, Wes Clark comes up and I mention that we
were in the same West Point class. From that point on, I am treated
like royalty even though I point out that I knew him very little. You
would think I was the hero. I am certain they go home that night to
tell the family they met somebody that knew Wesley Clark."


(http://www.washingtonpost.com, By Vernon Loeb,Washington Post Staff Writer, Wednesday, September 17, 2003; Page A01) “Army Col. Douglas Macgregor .... An author and strategist who has also had his fights with the Army brass, Macgregor said he will forever be indebted to Clark for taking a chance and naming him as director of planning at NATO headquarters in Belgium in 1997:
"There is this aspect of his character -- he is loyal to people he knows are capable and competent," Macgregor said. "As for his peers, it's a function of jealousy and envy, and it's a case of misunderstanding. General Clark is an intense person, he's passionate, and certainly the military is suspicious of people who are intense and passionate. He is a complex man who does not lend himself to simplistic formulations. But he is very competent, and devoted to the country."

(http://www.washingtonpost.com, (By Vernon Loeb,Washington Post Staff Writer, Wednesday, September 17, 2003; Page A01)”William J. Perry, who as deputy defense secretary first encountered Clark in 1994 when he was a three-star general on the Joint Staff. "I was enormously impressed by him," said Perry, a mathematician and legendary Pentagon technologist who later served as secretary of defense under Clinton. Perry was so impressed, in fact, that with Clark facing retirement unless a four-star job could be found for him, Perry overrode the Army and insisted that Clark be appointed head of the U.S. Southern Command, one of the military's powerful regional commanders in chief, or CINCs. "I was never sorry for that appointment," Perry said.

www.veteransforclark.com
(Chuck Smith, Command Sergeant Major – Army, City - Clay Center, Kansas)“I am writing this not only to let General Clark know that he has my support, but to let whom ever reads this understand what makes Wes Clark tick. I have known General Clark professionally since he was a Major in Bamberg Germany and I was a Staff Sergeant. I had the privilege to serve with him two more times at Ft Carson Colorado when he was a Brigade XO and then when he was a Battalion Commander. The man is a brilliant leader! He does not make rash decisions. He checks out every option. He listens to his subordinates but asks them the hard questions and then checks out his options again. He is a true professional. If he was in the White House the American public would feel secure in knowing that the decisions he would make would have their best interests in mind. He is a true patriot! What he does and what he says is how he feels about this country and the future of it. He will think about the little guy just as he used to think about the young soldier in that tank engaging the enemy, and what that soldier would have to deal with because of his decision. Wes Clark is the right man for the job!”

Forrest (Bill) Hilbish, CW04 (Retired), US Navy, Mogadore, Ohio, 1975-1999
Comments - I worked for General Clark while stationed at SCJ6 Current Operations Branch for USSOUTHCOM in Panama. He was an excellent leader and commander. My wife was impressed by the fact that even though there were hundreds of officers working for him, he knew both of our names. He replaced General Barry McCaffrey (Drug Czar for Clinton). I am a Republican but I would vote for the "ONE" Democrat. Good luck General...

Louie Yepez, SPC, ARMY, Long Beach, California. 1997-Present
Comments - I first saw Gen. Clark when I was in Bosnia in 1999 and he spoke to us in a theater. I always felt he had strong leadership qualities, which is why i will support him for 2004! Thnak you.

Sam Closkey, Rank - LTC – Army, City - Palm City, FL, 1966-1986
I worked with General Clark at the National Training Center. I always thought he would be an excellent president. He was the easiest guy to work for, smart, appreciative, confident and he really cared about people. I am a registered republican, but he's got my vote. How can I help?

T. Ryan, Rank – SSgt, USMC, City – Boston, Ma, 80-84 87-2003
Comments - Prior to joining the Marines I was a 17 year old Soldier in the 1st Bn 77th Armor 4th ID. Then LtCol Clark was my Bn Commander. I can honestly say he was top notch, very well respected by Enlisted and Officers a like and lerned a lifetime of respect from myself. A true Soldiers Soldier. Thanks for everything Sir and Semper Fidelis.


"I have watched him at close range for 35 years, in which I have looked at the allegation, and I found it totally unsupported," said retired Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, who taught with Clark at West Point in the 1970s. "That's not to say he isn't ambitious and quick. He is probably among the top five most talented I've met in my life. I think he is a national treasure who has a lot to offer the country."
http://www.azstarnet.com/vote/31012nClark-Military.html"Look, for 34 years when there was a tough problem the local leadership asked Wes Clark to take on the problem," McCaffrey said. "This guy has been incredibly successful at doing the country's business."

http://www.azstarnet.com/vote/31012nClark-Military.html "Two other retired lieutenant generals who worked with Clark, Dan Christman and Don Kerrick, said friction involving Clark was to be expected as he tried to balance the interests of NATO allies and the United States.
"We knew that he was a man of his word and that he would deliver what we expected," said Kerrick, who was deputy national security adviser to President Clinton when Clark was at NATO.

Colonel David Hackworth (www.clarkmyths.com) “At the interview, Clark came along without the standard platoon of handlers and treated the little folks who poured the coffee and served the bacon and eggs with exactly the same respect and consideration he gave the biggies in the dining room...”

Military Support from the Draft days:

FirstName: Tony
LastName: Jones
City: Mandeville
State: LA
Date: 09/13/2003
Time: 09:42 PM
Comments
Dear Sirs, As a former military officer myself and having served under Clark, I can attest to the fact that Mr. Clark is a strong leader and a truly innovative thinker. Not afraid to make decisions but wise in mechanics of diplomacy as well. I applaud his stance and feel that as any American, he has the right to question the current administration and it’s policies. As a member of the military you do not enjoy these rights only the heavy often dangerous burden of protecting them. My hats off to him and any other American who has the courage to be a free thinker and not ignorantly mimic those who choose to use political spin to support a very flawed policy for the US. I fully support Mr. Clark’s ability and his courage to take a stand for what many millions of Americans believe in but are afraid to express – a strong nation with a solid foundation capable of operating with tact and discretion a global society. I am disgusted with the current administrations tactic of wrapping their poor decisions in an American flag and declaring those who challenge them as unpatriotic. How dare them and any other citizen who is a true American to believe that free speech is something to be suppressed. I, like Mr. Clark and millions of others, have spent a large portion of our adult lives defending this great nation and it’s constitution and fully support the right of each and every American to express his or her rights of free speech. Good or bad, pleasant or not, these rights are what make this country great. I and all my friends will be behind Mr. Clark should he decide to make this very important decision, one which I know will be of great benefit to this country and the entire world.

FirstName: Frank
LastName: Adams
City: Spanish Fort
State: AL
Date: 09/12/2003
Time: 09:57 AM
Comments
General Clark was my last boss in the Army. He was the J-5. I never worked harder, but it was clear that what he had us doing was important. He is the smartest, fairest man I have spent time around. If he runs, it will be for the good of the country, not for any type of self aggrandizement. I am prepared to actively work for his election. I am also pledging $500 to his campaign. General, duty is calling you once again. Please answer the call.

FirstName: Angelo Ray (GSE-15 CIV/COL) KFOR
LastName: GALAS
City: New York
State: NY
Date: 09/15/2003
Time: 09:14 PM
Comments
General Clark, America needs you. Please run for president. I served with you in Albania and Kosovo, first as part of TF Hawk, then into KFOR. I'd like to "meet up," with fellow supporters at the New York Athletic Club, which I think would be a great venue, no host. Keep me posted. You're a leader and a true hero, our military, our citizenry, deserve an intelligent, experienced, multilateralist to lead. You and your family will make a great First Family and I'd be honored to serve you again. Very Respectfully, /s/ Ray Galas Commissioner City and County of Honolulu (Now resident of New York City.)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:20 PM
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11. Thank You, Tom!
I filed those away! They're keepers for future Clark bashes. These are my favorites... :)


I am a Republican but I would vote for the "ONE" Democrat. Good luck General...

I am a registered republican, but he's got my vote. How can I help?



"I have watched him at close range for 35 years, in which I have looked at the allegation, and I found it totally unsupported," said retired Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, who taught with Clark at West Point in the 1970s. "That's not to say he isn't ambitious and quick. He is probably among the top five most talented I've met in my life. I think he is a national treasure who has a lot to offer the country."
http://www.azstarnet.com/vote/31012nClark-Military.html"Look, for 34 years when there was a tough problem the local leadership asked Wes Clark to take on the problem," McCaffrey said. "This guy has been incredibly successful at doing the country's business."

Colonel David Hackworth (www.clarkmyths.com) “At the interview, Clark came along without the standard platoon of handlers and treated the little folks who poured the coffee and served the bacon and eggs with exactly the same respect and consideration he gave the biggies in the dining room...”



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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:54 PM
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16. Wow, that's quite a compilation
:yourock: Tom

Thanks for putting it together.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:59 AM
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33. many more testimonials available....
At www.veteransforclark2004.us and i have about 7 pages of excerpts from military that served under him from draftwesleyclark.com if anyone is interested...too lengthy to post ;)
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:16 PM
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18. God bless you and Clark!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:17 AM
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36. Hi sarah4clark04!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:11 AM
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38. Wow, Tom! Many thanks for this....
Great testimonials for a great man.

:kick:
DemEx
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:23 AM
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42. Credit where credit is due
Thanks, but most of the Thanks should go to Kimberly who posted most of this onto a Clark blog on Nov,10th. I just added a few letters from the Draft Clark days and pasted them all together.

I have about 50 pages saved of letters written during the draft effort. I wish I had started saving them earlier. Some very very powerful stuff, incredibly heart felt and well written. Support from every conceivable part of the political spectrum (well almost). I moved from being a supporter to fervent supporter while reading those letters, and locked into being a committed volunteer after seeing the man himself.

Most of the candidates will have a hard time unifying most of the Democratic Party, let alone the nation. I think the stakes simply are way too high right now to elect a President who will not command the respect of a broad cross section of the American people, which Clark will. The truth is though, all in all, I love him on the issues and I respect the fact that he is dedicated to public service.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:41 PM
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12. kick n/t
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 09:46 PM
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13. Thanks for the kick...
good read.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:02 PM
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14. You're welcome!
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 10:53 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Nothing better than getting an opinion from the men who served under and beside the General. They should know the real character of the man.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:46 PM
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15. kick
Great stuff. Thanks


:kick:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:06 PM
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17. This is a wonderful read!
I had no doubt of Wesley Clark's credentials but reading these confirms them all over again. Thanks for posting them!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:19 PM
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19. Man oh man this guy has just got to be on the ticket. He will

destroy * with the truth. Watched him wipe the floor with a Faux

propaganda ministry talking head today it was wonderful to see.

Clark does not back down. You would have to be more than on your game to come out onto with this guy.

Wes Clark with Dean riding shotgun this ticket will have Rove shitting his pants. It's gonna be a wild ride if this is the Dem ticket.

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:19 PM
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20. "Clark's driver endorses Clark"
Isn't that what this is, basically?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:25 PM
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21. I'd like to hear what Bush's military peers say about him...
...for some reason we have never heard THOSE anecdotes though...

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:46 AM
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52. well...
They are still looking for somebody that actually remembers serving with Bush...
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:26 PM
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22. His security officer ;-)
He comes to our Meetups, and he's a heck of a guy, actually.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:48 PM
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26. security officer, okay
I'm just a bit disappointed in that overly-melodramatic commercial. I guess this is necessary to fend off the underhand attacks from the disgruntled general what's his name. Actually I remember a thread about how Clark treated waitstaff - let's put it this way, Clark wouldn't need to butter up to working class whites with boorish comments about pick up trucks and rebel flags, Clark is the real deal.

I want Clark to appeal to "regular guys" by taking a page from Spitzer and saying something about the corporate crooks. He's perfect on every other issue, but Dean's getting all the most democratic (small d) groups. I've been saying it forever, if Clark's not a populist, he can't win the primary. I hope his next policy announcement goes after corporate crime, the growing income gap, and globalization. If anyone can do it, Clark can.

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:17 AM
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41. Clark/ Edwards has real deal appeal.
Edwards is running a very anti-corporate, populist campaign. This ticket would turn a lot of red states blue.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:28 PM
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23. You didn't read Tom Rinaldo's post?
I take it?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:33 PM
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24. So its worthless then
An average guy <or soldier I should say> describing his first hand impressions. Unless its an outright lie, I am very interested in it.

What made you so skeptical anyways.
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TheZoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:02 AM
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27. Darn, I missed the over/under
I usually peg any positive candidate thread at 10 before someone has to spoil it.

I have not officially "signed onto" a candidate yet, but am leaning towards Dean or Clark. I enjoy reading the positives about a candidate, but no matter which candidate the thread is about, someone has to put a childish comment in. Clarkies, Deanie Babies, Kerry's Kids - always have to spoil a thread if it's not THEIR candidate.

Can't we all just get along?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:17 AM
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29. nice Tarot symbol...
....
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:56 AM
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51. Please Don't Beat up on WCTV
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 10:57 AM by DoveTurnedHawk
He's a fair-minded guy who cares passionately for workers.

DTH
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:51 AM
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32. Hackworth's About Face
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 12:41 PM by Skinner
Reporting for Duty - Wesley Clark
By David H. Hackworth
9-28-03

”For the record, I never served with Clark. But after spending three hours interviewing the man for Maxim's November issue, I'm impressed. He is insightful, he has his act together, he understands what makes national security tick - and he thinks on his feet somewhere around Mach 3. No big surprise, since he graduated first in his class from West Point, which puts him in the super-smart set with Robert E. Lee, Douglas MacArthur and Maxwell Taylor.

Clark was so brilliant, he was whisked off to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar and didn't get his boots into the Vietnam mud until well after his 1966 West Point class came close to achieving the academy record for the most Purple Hearts in any one war. When he finally got there, he took over a 1st Infantry Division rifle company and was badly wounded.

Lt. Gen. James Hollingsworth, one of our Army's most distinguished war heroes, says: "Clark took a burst of AK fire, but didn't stop fighting. He stayed on the field till his mission was accomplished and his boys were safe. He was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart. And he earned 'em."...

It took months for Clark to get back in shape. He had the perfect excuse, but he didn't quit the Army to scale the corporate peaks as so many of our best and brightest did back then. Instead, he took a demoralized company of short-timers at Fort Knox who were suffering from a Vietnam hangover and made them the best on post - a major challenge in 1970 when our Army was teetering on the edge of anarchy. Then he stuck around to become one of the young Turks who forged the Green Machine into the magnificent sword that Norman Schwarzkopf swung so skillfully during Round One of the Gulf War.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:19 AM
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39. Niiiice article!
It says a lot for Hackworth to be able to admit he was wrong in his opinion of Clark. After meeting with and interviewing him, he saw the "real deal" and knows it.

I can't help but think of ALL the soldiers who would have served under the General for the past 25 years. We're looking at 1000's of men and their families. That could be a ton of votes for Clark. If these posted comments are any indication of what he was like as a commander, he has a bunch of support out there! Then, add to those soldiers, the WWII and Korean Veterans! He has a very good chance of winning this election.

Thanks for posting this article.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:35 PM
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25. This is how he is when you meet him in person
If you get a chance to talk at all, he wants to know about YOU. How are YOU doing? What do YOU do? Etc..........

The guy is incredible.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:06 AM
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28. I met him too,
and feel the same. Clark sells himself. Too bad Bush outlawed Cloning! Cause Clark is good! Even Madonna thinks so!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:52 AM
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31. Clark is a *very* honorable man. (n/t)
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:37 AM
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34. Our local meetup/draft/campaign has former colleagues.
I'm sure there are other campaigns who have the same stories, but we have a good number of folks who say the same thing from experience.

It's definitely a different feel than what I get from people who I've met who have had close encounters with other politicians, including a number of recent presidents, vp's, and candidates for those offices. I've heard people described as great to party with, personable, I've heard military stories, but nothing like this.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:34 AM
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35. I could totally support Clark
Having the support of the enlisted guys is where it's at. Makes a big difference to me. We might want to remember that Republicans from the 60's and 70's were more liberal than alot of liberals today.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:04 AM
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37. Yeah, does anyone realize that Nixon signed the EPA and...
OSHA into law? Kinda makes you wonder about today's
dems sometimes, doesn't it.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:01 AM
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40. I have to admit
that I did not know a lot about Clark but one evening I was channel surfing and came across a town meeting (c-span I think) that he was having in New Hampshire. I was startled by how impressive he was. I have always trusted my instincts (the times I don't I get into trouble) and this guy appears to be the real deal.
As far as not having any political experience is concerned, you don't become a 4 star general without being politically adept.
I haven't made up my mind yet and I have problems with a lot of our candidates for one reason or the other although they are all worthy of the office (with the exception of Lieberman,who I can't stand) but as of this moment Gen. Clark is at the top of my list.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:51 AM
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43. Quite moving and persuasive.
Clark is a helluva guy. I'm proud that he's a Democrat. I think he would make a great President.
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maggiemay Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:11 AM
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46. I think this does it...
I have been riding the fence on Clark for the last couple of months, but I can no longer deny the fact that I love the man! He is, I daresay, inspirational. I think all of the candidates have something to offer, but Clark has the universal appeal we need to kick *'s ass.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:05 AM
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44. kick
nice, I was worried he didn't treat his subordinates well, but this article helps dispel that worry.

:kick:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:06 PM
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47. Because Clark will talk about Kosovo on 60 Minutes II tonight
Good time to read up if you missed this thread. Kick!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:57 PM
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48. Just as I thought, Clark is a stand up guy.
:thumbsup:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:20 AM
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49. excellent thread. kick
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:52 AM
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50. This Is Like My Favorite Post Ever
Or close to it. The same guy has another post on the CCN here:

http://cris.forclark.com/story/2003/11/17/202845/40

I am actually loving the CCN. It really allows the cream to rise to the top, and also easily lets you ignore Trolls by viewing only comments with a rating of 2+ (out of 5).

DTH
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 02:08 PM
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53. A Kick for This Awesome Post (eom)
:kick:

DTH
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