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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:52 PM
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Poll question: Will We Have a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket?
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 11:56 PM by BullGooseLoony
While many Dean and Clark supporters have open hostility toward each other on DU, with only a couple of exceptions our two frontrunners have, themselves, been pretty civil. Do you think these two are considering joining forces?

Personally, I have no idea. It's sound like it would be great, but...???

And, of course, we've seen this poll before, but we're ripe for another one.

So, whaddaya think? Are they thinking Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean?

Edited for clarity
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:54 PM
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1. I dunno
I think youre right about there is hostility, but you guys mostly get along. Personally being how I am, I would prefer something else. Just saying this ticket doesnt thrill me personally, I am just saying, hey I'll support the ticket and all but its just I dont see this really exciting me personally, :shrug: I am feeling too left these days.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:59 PM
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9. I agree
I'm sure I'll vote for a Dean/Clark or a Clark/Dean ticket, but the thought gives me a "meh, whatever," feeling. I would really like to see a liberal get the nomination.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:01 AM
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12. same on the liberal gettin the nominee
and btw I notice your Kerry avatar, Kerry is a liberal who despite IWR I still do like. Yeah I get the same feeling youre getting, I am not enthralled by the idea either. I really do like Kerry as well as DK. I've had him as my second choice since mid summer now my 3-9 I havent even decided that. Thanks though, I knew I wasnt alone in my attiude on a Dean-Clark ticket or vice versa.
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coralrf Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:55 PM
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2. No
implies 'something else.'
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:57 PM
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5. Thats what I realized
As I said no offense people but I am in the minority and I understand so about not being enthralled by this idea of Dean-Clark or vice versa. Dont take it the wrong way, its just I dunno cant explain it.
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45th Med Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:56 PM
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3. Clark/Dean
Being former US Army, General Clark has my full and unabashed support!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:58 PM
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6. Okay...but I'm asking what are THEY thinking?
Are they actually planning on doing this?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:58 PM
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8. I think I heard reports that Dean would consider Clark
as VP.
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Barbara917 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:14 AM
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29. Yes and No
Given the rumors I have read about Dean and Clark meeting before Clark announced his candidacy, I think there is a possibility that Dean might be considering Clark as a potential VP. In particular, I think Dean needs a VP with Clark's credentials to bolster the obvious areas of Dean's weaknesses - foreign policy, national security, and electability (appeal to traditional red states of the South).

I do not, however, think Clark is thinking about Dean as a potential VP. Clark does not have a reciprocal need for Dean as a VP. I think Clark has been keeping his cards very close to his chest on this. I don't think his own supporters have a clue what he is thinking on this one.

The following is the only snippet I have found on Clark commenting on the VP position. http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1103/110777.html
Bravo to Mrs. Clark!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:37 AM
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34. Hi Barbara917!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:01 AM
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11. Welcome to DU, 45th Med.
Clark/Dean sounds fine to me; Dean's energy would well serve the attacking VP-nom role, and Clark exhudes leadership.

:toast:

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Barbara917 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:23 AM
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38. Thank you for the warm greeting
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 08:27 AM by Barbara917
:hi:

/edit: Oops :o I responded to the wrong greeting. I thought I clicked on that one up there. :o
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:19 AM
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22. Hi 45th Med Welcome to DU !

:toast:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:57 PM
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4. Where is the "god, I hope not" choice?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:58 PM
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7. I dunno
:shrug:
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MariaS Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:22 AM
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23. Ok here it is
Oh God I hope not!
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:33 AM
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26. My thoughts exactly
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:00 AM
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10. I like Dean/Clark
But I don't think they appear to mesh. I never see them talking to each other much after the debates. I don't see that closeness. My background on my computer is one of Dean and Braun dancing together after the JJ Dinner in Iowa!! That's bonding!

I don't think they attack each other either so that's a good sign.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:38 AM
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36. Hi holyrollerdem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:02 AM
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13. Dean/Clark
Dean should know he needs Clark for the warrior-class vote. Clark should know he needs Dean to legitimize his own fledgling Democrat-ness. United, they will truly be something to behold.
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kymar57 Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:06 AM
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16. how bout Kerry /Clark? n/t
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:58 AM
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37. How about Snoopy/Clark? n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:04 AM
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14. They're as compatible as peanut butter and jelly
because each one's main weakness is the other's strength. Clark's purely military background would be balanced by Dean's governmental one, and vice versa. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if it were already a done deal.


rocknation
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:07 AM
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17. That's basically how I see it.
And it almost seems as if they're setting it up to be the case. Especially when Clark first came into the race, all the good things Dean was saying about him...and the way Clark laid off Dean during the Confederate Flag crap....
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:13 AM
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21. Exactly....
.. they complement each other very well. I really think that Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean is our best shot at taking the white house.

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:06 AM
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15. Join forces?
Nah.

One will win.

Then, picking the VP becomes step one in the general. Probably either would be an excellent number two to the other.

Hope all comes together then. Victory is imperative.

:kick:
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:07 AM
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18. Picking both is the ONLY way to unite the Party in the General
This seems self-evident to me.

Anyone disagree? Anyone who DOES NOT want a united party for the general election?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:08 AM
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19. Clark was Dean's original choice before he ran
but Dean has also mentioned Bob Graham. I would like any of these combinations. You know, a liberal would be great but then Bush would slaughter him, eat him, and spit him out. So we need a strong centrist who can send the smirking chimp back to Crawford, back to rehab, or to prison for a long time.

Progressives Unite!
Bad Spellers Untie!
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Abaques Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:11 AM
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20. I hope so...
I think its the strongest ticket we could present right now.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:06 AM
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24. Some combination of Dean, Clark
Kerry and Edwards would leave me happy. My favorite? Clark/Dean-a perfect coupling of divergent interests (i.e. twin sons of different mothers)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:28 AM
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25. bondage....
There's actually NOT a lot of precendent for "bonding" as a qualification for a running mate. Heck, it used to be that running mates were intentionally chosen as someone who would just be bland enough not to draw attention, and happy to fade into history after the term. It's only in recent times that the team concept has evolved, and the idea of complementing each other. I think Dean and Clark would make a great team... of course I favor the Dean/Clark combo, but I think both woulod benefit from either scenario.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:54 AM
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27. Dean/Clark, Clark/Dean.................
is the only ticket that will resonate well enough with the American people to defeat Bush. I repeat, the ONLY ticket. I believe such a team unstoppable for the Presidency.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:55 AM
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28. Doubt it
I would think either one at the top would want a VP with Washington experience.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:12 AM
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30. 'Open hostility'?
While there are a few highly visible and extremely verbal critics in each camp, overall I have found Dean supporters to be less critical of Clark, and vice-versa; I notice a similar phenomenon between Kerry and Edwards supporters.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:33 AM
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31. In the Eye of the Beholder
I'm sure I could rattle off a list of Dean supporters who would crash a non-Dean thread in less than 10 posts:).
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:50 AM
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39. I basically agree.
I just think that, in general (pardon the pun :P ), there seems to be an actual lack of hostility between most suppoerters in the two camps. I have personally defended the General from what I consider 'lame' attacks, e.g., his voter-registration question, etc. . :hi:
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:39 AM
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32. That's what I think and that's what I'm hoping for.
:)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:59 AM
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33. I hope that the ticket will have both men.
I also think it is a distinct possibility because, despite bad blood between the supporters, they seem to get along reasonably well and are complimentary personalities needed to balance eachother's weaknesses out.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:37 AM
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35. An interesting question
Will Dean ask his supporters to vote on the vice-presidential choice? After all, they are said to have ultimate input into all his decisions.

I don't see the two teaming up, although I do see Clark giving it his all on the campaign trail for Dean if Dean wins the nomination.

I can't say that I see Dean doing the same for anybody else, which is one of the reasons I have reservations about him.
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