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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:01 AM Original message |
Any Church preaching against Gay marriage should lose tax free status. |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think most churches... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. There was a preacher from Louisiana on NPR this AM |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
145. be careful what you wish for |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I get mad at things like this. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:56 AM Original message |
Churches do good work |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
18. Don't strawmanize. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Not straw |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Again! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Again, again |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
24. NO! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. It's a religion |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. Indeed they are scary. I remember a textbook on gov't from my... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. What you CAN'T say is: |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yes, you can tell them exactly that. n/t |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Why not? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Actually, you can do just that |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Falacious argument. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
102. I misspoke here |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:53 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. Why can't they? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. Tax Exempt groups CLARIFY how they use funds. |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Its not really lobbying, IMO |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. I'm an attorney |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
2. So you are saying that any church/religion... |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Well personally I think they should not be tax exempt.... |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I think that is incorrect. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Don't TAX them.... |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You can't stop them from talking about political issues. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. SAY whatever you want. |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. They aren't doing it on your nickle. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. A tax break is a subsidy. |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. So let me ask you this. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
104. Sorry I missed this: OF COURSE I'll accept that. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Your are reading this WRONG. |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You picked a very specific topic... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Specific? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. We are NOT funding them |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. They may speak their mind on RELIGIOUS ISSUES. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yes they should be, that's called freedom |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. And the gov't will define what is & isn't a religious issue? NO. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
177. NO they will NOT. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:48 AM Response to Reply #177 |
184. Banner making? |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. You said... |
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Athletic Grrl (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Tyler, |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Slippery Slope |
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Athletic Grrl (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
89. Muddleoftheroad, |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Owned by the Church |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. Any Church w/ a flying US flag on it grounds should lose tax free status |
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moroni (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
108. Flag flying... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. Not in the least |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
19. NO. What about churches that urge activity on liberal... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. No fair |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. LOL. |
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dusty64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. I couldn't agree more. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yes, many churches are political, like the black churches... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Unhappily, YES. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Define religion |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. OK, work at getting this concept. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Morality and politics intersect |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Religion must be free to teach its own tenets, which include |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. No doubt you'd be delighted if churches were urging their |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
35. Well, religious freedom isn't that important . . . |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Nicely put. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Yes, it is, as are your posts above. The idea of |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Misunderstanding of tax policy too |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Well Said!! n/t |
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Beer Snob-50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
43. The dialogues of tax exempt status and the governmen t |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
47. If you don't want the church. . . |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
48. Ah, one of those ticklish issues... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
50. I tremble with anger over the catholic church on this matter. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Wow, I thought we were done |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. This is turning into a Robin Hood thing |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The Catholic Church is no more political |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Hitler subsidized the Catholic & Lutheran Churches and schools throughout |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
136. How many people from other religions refused service in Hitler's army? |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
134. Why single out the Catholics? |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:13 AM Response to Reply #134 |
163. I do single out the catholics because.... |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
54. So now the goverment should force churches to be in line with democrats? |
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jhfenton (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
56. Some scary viewpoints in this thread.... |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:20 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Many of them have a problem with religion to begin with |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
59. The premise may be off slightly. |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Churches which opposed freedom for blacks, now oppose it for gays, etc., |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:30 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Great Points! |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:34 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. So what?!?!? |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:47 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Churches have always been |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:54 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. It's not the government's job |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:15 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I don't think the |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. That's different |
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1songbird (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:40 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Yes I disagree with the original post |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
137. So you're saying that |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
62. Contrary to opinion: I DO NOT APPROVE OF TAXING CHURCHES. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. No deal |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. NO. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
70. While I agree that ALL churches should lose their tax free status, . . . |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
73. No, no, no--- a thousand times no! |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
76. Fine. Enjoy GOTT MIT UNS |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:22 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Wha? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Exactly my point: SEPARATION. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Be consistent |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. If they employ LOBBYISTS... |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. So which are you railing against then? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. BOTH. |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
124. Well, this isn't what you said previously. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Now you've got it: SEPARATION. |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
79. all churches |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
81. Any church should loose tax free status. Period. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. If you threaten the "Fundy Tax Break," maybe they will.... |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Now you are trying one of their favorite tactics. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I knew the anti-religion folks would be here sooner or later |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Well christmas is coming so expect another rise in anti-christian threads |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. And to remind you: |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. And just to clarify... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. When a Non-Profit asks for money for a lobbying action: |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
127. OK, now...show me where a church... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
138. You guys are being a little hard on Tyler |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:31 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. THANK you. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Oh knock it off. |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:57 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Actually the very tone of your original post... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:12 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Now you are picking nits. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Rev. Martin Luther King = Lobbyist |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
126. Show me a religion that does not use the words... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:12 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Wahhabiism |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:20 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Read Q'ran, have we? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:07 PM Response to Reply #132 |
142. Who are you to say they are misinterpreting? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:51 PM Response to Reply #142 |
150. In other words: |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:51 AM Response to Reply #150 |
154. They are not denying you anything |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:12 AM Response to Reply #132 |
162. He didn't attack all of Islam, just one sect. In your responce... |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:13 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Because it either isn't reasonable.... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:31 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. I don't know, it just seems so obvious to me. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. Actually they worded it even more strongly than that |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of RELIGION..." |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. You left out part |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. and NOT in the PUBLIC SECTOR where the Tax Dollars are. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:13 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Religion |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Exactly |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:27 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. NOT Religion. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. You are not funding them |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. NO, YOU don't "get it" |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:58 PM Response to Reply #120 |
139. Well, you must be reading some other Constitution |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:57 PM Response to Reply #139 |
152. Speak their minds, YES. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:55 AM Response to Reply #152 |
157. We can have it any way we wish |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:44 AM Response to Reply #157 |
166. so it's NEENER NEENER NEENER? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:11 AM Response to Reply #166 |
173. Not a theocracy |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:02 AM Response to Reply #173 |
179. Then they can ALL loose the tax free exemption. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:50 AM Response to Reply #179 |
186. 1st Amendment |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 01:44 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. You simply do not understand, do you? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:55 AM Response to Reply #152 |
158. Basically . . |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:02 AM Response to Reply #158 |
170. EXACTLY. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:04 AM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Examples? |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
85. All Churches Should Lose Tax Exemption |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
109. You're right. The Mormons went through this and learned.... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:04 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Follow the MONEY. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:19 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Should Episcopalian lose their tax-exempt status too? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:32 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. He will say no |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:32 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. Oh give me a BREAK. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:37 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Bishops |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Try picking another word out of context. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
141. They have that right |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:33 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Who said they didn't? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:59 AM Response to Reply #147 |
159. You said |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Hire?!?!?!?! |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:04 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. If it's political, then Pull the Tax Exempt Status. |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 01:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
195. Spot on. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
125. One final point |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. They can say: |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:01 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Who is going to parse every sermon? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:42 PM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Oh come on. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:54 AM Response to Reply #149 |
156. Um, that's already the system we have!! |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
131. So you believe religeous thought should be regulated |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
151. why isn't anyone listening? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:01 AM Response to Reply #151 |
160. How do you define "patently political positions?" |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:30 AM Response to Reply #151 |
164. We have listened, and rejected. You are giving to the gov't |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:54 AM Response to Reply #164 |
168. They can SAY or DO whatever they want. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:02 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. Again, that is already the law |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:03 AM Response to Reply #168 |
171. It gives the government control |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:48 AM Response to Reply #171 |
176. And I remind you: |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #176 |
189. That pesky 1st Amendment |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
148. I haven't read... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:00 AM Response to Reply #148 |
153. They can PREACH it's wrong. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:53 AM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Isn't that already the law? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:06 AM Response to Reply #153 |
161. Actually, that's not what you said |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:39 AM Response to Reply #161 |
165. My original premise was: |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 09:51 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Ahh |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:13 AM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Actually, we just got onto the same page. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:19 AM Response to Reply #174 |
175. That's fine |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 10:57 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. I know what you're saying. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:11 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. I would still like an example |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
181. A question for you, if you please. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:40 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Got to draw the line at "VOTE FOR FRED!" |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:42 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. 182 post for about 1 percent change |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 11:48 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Bet you are one HELL of a lawyer. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:33 PM Response to Reply #185 |
192. Why isn't the law enforced? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. NOOOOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:02 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. You ducked the question. Can the Pastor read the Bible aloud? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:14 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. We've spent two days hashing out the meaning of the original post. |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
188. The Mormons almost lost their tax exempt status due to racism... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:24 PM Response to Reply #188 |
191. I utterley disagree |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 01:15 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Re: "I utterley disagree" |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:03 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. Hate speech is protected speech |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:12 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Grrrr... I can't stand it when... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. We are at an empasse. |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:24 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. Actually.... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:34 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Sorry, I posted the reply to the wrong post. I thought I was |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #200 |
207. Never have I seen such refusal to READ |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. The power to tax is the power to destroy. And you place... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:12 PM Response to Reply #188 |
199. Almost |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. The US Government successfully pressured the... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:30 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. Yes there should be no limit and yes it would be morally wrong |
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adamblast (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 03:15 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Wrong yes, but I'm not sure about discriminatory... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 03:38 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. Commerce clause issue/Public access |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
209. Shouldn't encouraging anti-social behavior carry a price? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 07:33 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. What is anti-social? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 07:57 PM Response to Reply #209 |
211. Who decides what is anti-social? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
212. If implemented, subject proposal would probaby violate First Amendment |
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