Does the black community support gay marriage?

[funkyflathead]

A number of black folks I know are Democrats but Christians too.

I'm not sure if they really follow the Bible and believe gay people are evil.

Any black Duers here? What is the reaction in your community?

Thanks

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. I'm not black, but

I know for a fact that the majority of gay rights support comes from the liberal white community.

Blacks and hispanics are far behind liberal whites in supporting same sex marriage.

[xultar]

5. why is it when people request for Black Folks to post, White folks

gotta tell us what we think?

[Sparkle]

9. LOL!

Don't be so sensitive.

[xultar]

11. I was sorta jokin, but I do find it quite humerous...

When someone posts and they ask for Gays only I may read it but I don't respond cuz I aint gay.

[Red_Storm]

18. it is true................

support for same sex marriage in the hispanic community is not as strong as in the liberal white community...........

[terrya]

2. Some black leaders do.

Coretta Scott King and Al Sharpton both support gay marriage.

Carol Mosely Braun does, also.

I'm not sure about Jesse Jackson.


Terry

[xultar]

3. I do but I don't. Cuz most gay men are hot....if they marry each other

there won't be any for me.

Yes I support Gay marriage. Spread the misery!

[rucky]

17. LOL...That's What "Queer Eye..." is for

the gay agenda is good for all of us

[chaumont58]

4. My guess is that blacks are not monolithic on this

That they probably are no different than the general population. I would bet that there aren't many blacks who equate gay peoples struggles with the civil right movement. Certainly, there are some who do, but no where near a majority.

[Muddleoftheroad]

6. This or anything else

No, we are not monolithic on any issue. Yes, I support gay rights. However, traditional churches are strong in our community and many will oppose this. In particular, our community has never been very comfortable with the concept of gay and black at the same time.

[xultar]

7. R U black?

[Sparkle]

He did say "we".

[xultar]

12. my reply was to chaumont58 I know the lil lines get to be confusing

but that is who I was replying to

[Sparkle]

14. I was just being helpful.

I get accused of being a white girl too because I listen to white people music and act white. Silly, I know.

[xultar]

22. Yeah that's like them sayin you're actin like a car...whasss up

with that...

Oh my favorite, You talk white? Puhleeez You mean I speak correctly. Now don't get me wrong, I can throw down when I'm @ home. But, if you have to talk to a client telling them that they are phat and they should get jiggy with the million dollar contract aint gonna help business.

[Some Moran]

34. One of my friends...

He complains every time he sees another Black listening to "White" music.

[roughsatori]

15. However Muddle answers you won't know for sure

That is what I like about the internet. Though in the above case the use of "we" would indicate the answer you're looking for.

When some post things like: "I am gay, but I...." or "I as an African-American believe......" It is meaningless in a way--because you don't really know if they are being honest or manipulative. I think that is what is wonderful. It forces the reader to judge the actual ideas being presented.

We can in reality only judge a post by its content of character (nods to MLK) and not by the skin color, sexual orientation, or political party the poster claims.


edited to ad: I just re-read and see you were not asking Muddle. But the point still holds.

[xultar]

19. I can see what you are saying cuz when I stated my position I just

said that I don't. I didn't say as a BF I don't. Sometimes I will throw in the BF if I have to let people know I'm seriously not takin any shit. Usually that occurs in posts where I'm ranting about RUSH or KKKarl. I wanna let them know they got a BF on their tail and they should be shakin in their boots.

[roughsatori]

23. I know what you mean, I did not mean it for posts like you mention

But my sister in law (who is "Black") told me she poses as a "White-Male" on another political board. She does it to try to expose what she thinks "White" men "really think." I also had a "White" co-worker who is a Freeper. He told me that he posts on "librul" (sic) boards posing as a conservative "Black woman." He showed me a post he made that was anti-affirmative-action as a "conservative Black woman." He does this he said to "get away" with posting his views. So it does make me wonder about others at times.

[Sparkle]

8. I think the reaction is mixed.

I haven't talked much about gay marriage but it doesn't bother me. I would ask around but I'm 43 and single and wouldn't want them thinking I was a closet gay person.

:-) <just kidding>

[theboss]

10. According to polls, not in the least

The last poll I could find (A New York Times poll from August) shows majorities of black opposing gay marriage -- 63% to 28%.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/30/opinion/polls/main565918.shtml

[xultar]

13. OK I don't mean to be a trouble maker...so please I'm not sensitive

especially on issues of race. I just observe. I don't want you to think of me as a militant cuz I'm soooooo far from it. My family dismisses me as a "white" girl cuz I listen to Depeche Mode rather than $.50.

[Uzybone]

16. The black democrat christians I know

are antsy about gay marriage since it is "non traditional". My opinion is that the church doesnt have to marry people if it doesnt want to. Quite franky f*ck the church, as nthe is no bigger bastion of hypocrisy in human history. If 2 adults want to enter a legal agreement called marriage I dont care what sex they are. And if the church doesnt like it and doesnt want to get involved, then they shouldnt.

[Aristus]

20. I'm not black, but I am Christian. I don't imagine for a minute that

the black community speaks with one voice on this issue, and neither do the Christians. I fully support gay marriage, if for no other reason than because its none of my damn business what other people want to do. It doesn't hurt me, it doesn't affect me, it doesn't demean the institution of marriage any more than the vast numbers of heterosexuals out there fooling around, committing adultery, or serial monogamy are demeaning the institution. This is America for God's sake; it's supposed to be about freedom. The freedom to do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt your fellow Americans. All the wailing and hand-wringing, and reddened, trembling jowls from the Christian Right doesn't change the fact that gay marriage hurts NO ONE!

And that's the name of that tune.

[qanda]

21. The majority of people I know do not support gay marriage.

And I think it is an issue that can tear Black voters away from the Democratic Party. Yes, I am Black.

[Muddleoftheroad]

31. Exactly

No we are not one voting bloc, but ours is more conservative on some issues than most here realize or wish to accept.

[xultar]

24. OK let's talk Christians and Gays for a min...I thought it was Gods

responsibility to punish if people do things that are wrong. I'm not talkin murder here, I'm talkin sex between 2 sane Consensual adults. So why are we (christians, lawmakers, citizens) trying to punich gays.

Secondly, they've done tons of studies. Being gay is hardwired in the brain, thus God made them that way. Since they are God's children I'm sure they are loved just as much as anyone. So whether or not you interpret the bible correctly ultimatly God has the last say. So we shouldn't be player hatin' and developing our own forms of anti-gay legislation/punishment. Let God handle it.

OK back to the real discussion

[freestyle]

25. We have varying views, like everyone else.

I know some folks who do support equal access to civil marriage and somew folks who don't. In the summer's Episcopal Church debate about blessing same-sex couples, the Urban Caucus, which is largely Black supported it. Also, the Unity Fellowship Church is a growing denomination that primarily serves the Black LGBT community. I am Black and an Episcopalian, and gay and views at my parish are mixed. Some people are quite supportive and some still stick to anti-gay interpretations of scripture. For what it's worth, we recently had a White lesbian as our assistant pastor, and she and her partner were well accepted, because they are good people. She has since moved on to pastoring her own parish. So, Black folks are not monolithic and still the main factor in how fully people accept GLBT people are their personal relationships. It becomes difficult to say that the gay couple you have known for years as friends, neighbors, church members, etc. should not have their partnership recognized by the government.

Black GLBT people don't just see the linkage of all the struggles for full equality, we live it. Many are conscious enough to know that we can't afford to put anyone out of the community or out of the struggle.

[sujan]

26. I bet not

Most of them wont.

[TexasMexican]

27. Hispanic

I dont support gay marriage.

I also consider myself a christian, however my non-support of gay marriage has nothing to do with my religion.

IMO belief in christ has nothing to do with sex in the bedroom.

[sujan]

29. so why dont you support gay marriage?

Just homophobia in general?

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[JaneQPublic]

28. I'm guessing these members of the black community do...

(or did, in the case of those no longer living):

M'chelle N'dege Ocello, RuPaul, James Baldwin, Luther Vandross, Audre Lorde, Alvin Ailey, Langston Hughes...

In other words, before this gets into a black Vs. gay discussion, we need to remember that some members of the African American community are gay, too.

[theboss]

33. Luther's gay?!?!?!?!

Really?!?!?

[economic justice]

30. most in my circle are against it

I don't think it matters. But a lot of my family and friends oppose it. Just like white folk, there is no blanket opinion on gay marriage.

[bushisanidiot]

32. Non-Black Lesbian Here.. I've Noticed That Gay Bars (at least in my area)

are located in primarily "black" neighborhoods. Personally, I think it's because blacks don't commit hate crimes against gays.. it just doesn't happen very often. The hate crime perps are usually white males 18 - 30 age range. (repuke hicks)

This means nothing as far as the gay marriage argument goes, except that I have personally found african americans to be more accepting of me and my partner..

that is all.

[Scott Lee]

36. To those who oppose Gay Marriage - Don't Marry One, Then!

That's what makes me laugh about this whole issue. It's one of choice between two consenting adults. How could you be straight and be "against" gay marriage? That's completely daft.