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Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM
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I can't believe this sick bastard has been free for 10 years |
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The Smoking Gun has the police report from 10 years ago with the kid that Jacko paid off for $20 million, so he would go away and not press charges. Digusting. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjsearch3.html
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:43 PM
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1. Yeah what does jackson he think he is... |
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:46 PM
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:11 PM
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12. Hey! That's not fair. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:13 PM by brainshrub
Percentage of Catholic priests accused of child-molesting: 0.02%
Percentage of Pop stars named Michael Jackson's accused of child molesting: 100%
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:21 PM
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many Catholic priests have been found guilty of molesting kids, MJ hasn't.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:01 PM
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28. So, Catholic priests are the majority of abusers? |
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Where did you get that data?
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:46 PM
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You can't put someone in jail with no evidence. It is also hard for the police when the victim's family takes money instead of pressing charges.
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:53 PM
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8. Absolutely! And Tom Sneddon led the way |
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Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon led the fight to change the California law that didn't allow for prosecution of child molesters if the family "didn't want" to prosecute. He was DISGUSTED that they had the goods on Michael Jackson and he BOUGHT himself out of it. This time....the law is different.
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:48 PM
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4. Oh, I thought this thread would be about Arnold |
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:48 PM
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5. I can't believe his mother has been free |
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If I had a child I wouldn't let him spend the night with Jesus Christ in the same bed if he asked.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:05 PM
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11. Thank you.....my sentiments exactly.... |
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...if the parents of these children would stop sending them to him then this wouldn't even be an issue would it?!x(
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:20 PM
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A lot of these parents are poor. They see sending their kid to Micheal Jackson as a way to improve their lot in life. He preys on these people and then buys them off.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:25 PM
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15. Uh....give me a break...the case you referenced was NOT poor parents |
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and PROSTITUTING one's own child with a celebrity in order to blackmail them is hardly the road out of poverty I would recommend.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:59 PM
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44. Amen to that! And I agree (I think JC would too, actually) |
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:49 PM
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:17 PM
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35. Yep. This new OJ-type sensation will suck the oxygen out of |
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the prez campaign for the next six months to a year!!! IMAGINE THAT!!!!!
But at least, persons who will follow this story religiously are not likely to follow politics (or anything else that really matters), anyway.
But still...
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:52 PM
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7. That is not a police report |
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It's the kid's statement as typed by his lawyers.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:12 PM
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33. Shhhh, you're ruining the children's fun |
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Few scandal-mongerers are partial to fact.
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Wed Nov-19-03 03:54 PM
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will be all the news networks follow ofr the next year. Might as well forget about politics and such. Nobody much cares anyway. Maybe Fox will hire OJ to provide coverage of the trial.
Going back into my hole now. Wake me when the verdicts in or they settle.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:26 PM
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38. I feared something like this would happen, just in time for 2004. |
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Yup. Right on schedule. The masses will learn EVERY tidbit on this one.
BTW, Typical Voter Mesmerized by the MJ Trial: Can you name your Senators?? "Duh.... I dunno. Have they been to Neverland, too?"
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:02 PM
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10. Excuse me Michael, can you bend over and pick up the soap for me. |
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Sure, no probl...heeee heeeee.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:23 PM
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he is innocent until proven otherwise in the court of law.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:26 PM
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:27 PM
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17. true, but either way he is still mad as a hatter |
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he belongs in one of two places - padded room or jail cell.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:28 PM
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18. even if the allegations turned out to be false? |
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:56 PM
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24. These aren't the first |
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and he has already admitted to very odd behavior. A insane millionare with a hunger for "sleeping" with children is a danger to society.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM
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27. wow, are you over the top |
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I can think of many, many dangers to society.
Did I make a wrong turn off FR here?
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:10 PM
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32. Naah...just call Micheal "Kobe" and he'll get a much fairer shake on DU |
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(not that Kobe is guilty....just that he seems to be the only defendent that DU is willing to withhold judgement on)
This case reminds me of the McDonald's coffee case...if only it had been a small child burned instead of an old lady, McD's would NEVER be using it as an example of why tort reform is needed.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:14 PM
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Stop it NSMA... you're getting my anti-misogynist side all riled!
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:31 PM
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39. I'm certainly withholding judgment |
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Too many people have to see M. Jackson as a very vulnerable target. Will have to be proven as far as I'm concerned. If people can be bought off that easily when it concerns a crime of the nature accused, I think they are as guilty as Michael may be.
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Wed Nov-19-03 06:02 PM
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45. Welcome back again, NSMA! Damn, you're |
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:03 PM
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30. has he admitted to molesting those kids? |
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If he has, I just ask for proofs. That ought to shut me up.
Otherwise, admitting to 'very odd behavior' (if he has, and what type of 'very odd behaviour'? ) simply doesn't prove that he molested those kids.
I repeat, did he state that he molest those kids?
If he has, those statements could be used to prove him guilty in a court of law with other evidences.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:30 PM
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19. Yes, people with mental illnesses |
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deseved to be locked away. Either that or exorcised.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:55 PM
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23. Did I say any of that or are you just pulling shit out of your ass again? |
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:56 PM by Blue_Chill
I never made a blanket statement. I mean MJ should be in a padded room because I feel that he is a danger to children and shouldn't be loose on the streets with a fortune at his command until he is at the very least started on treatment for whatever it is that is wrong with him.
BTW - you never have been able to resist the religious jab. Sad.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:32 PM
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40. Actually, it was a jab at anachronistic treatment of mental illness. |
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Should have guessed you would consider it an attack on religion.
All you know is that michael jackson is mentally ill. You should let the courts decide if he is a danger to children before you go witch hunting.
WHOOPS! I did it again.
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Thu Nov-20-03 10:12 AM
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53. Dangling a kid off a balcony |
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That seemed to be enough evidence to prove he is a danger to them.
If nothing else, his public behavior has established a pretty strong prima facie case that he is not fit to raise children. He 1) dangles them off balconies, 2) refuses to let them go to school, and 3) makes them cover themselves in veils.
Also, he seems to believe that sharing a bed with a ten-year-old who is not related to him is appropriate behavior. I've seen CYS do more with less.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:35 PM
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41. OH, AND ANOTHER THING! My colon is the strongest muscle... |
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in my body. No need for pulling.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:31 PM
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20. I support the law as well. n/t |
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Wed Nov-19-03 06:26 PM
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46. Support MJ all you want |
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And OJ was found "not guilty". But until the day I die I will call him a murderer. There is no question in my mind that he killed Nicole and Ron.
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Wed Nov-19-03 06:42 PM
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47. Well, I guess you should have been on that jury then |
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Wed Nov-19-03 08:07 PM
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be out on the golf course with OJ looking for the real killers.
Come on. Do you honestly believe that OJ didn't do it?
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Wed Nov-19-03 08:03 PM
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:32 PM
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21. this parent who took the money |
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in 1993 deserves a certain amount of the blame for what happened in 2003 to this other child, if this new allegation is proved to be truthful. Sure $20 million is a huge incentive to turn your back no matter a child comes first, they could collect $$ later. Who knows how many other children there may have been in between?
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:33 PM
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22. The fact that they took the money... |
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to me indicates they made the whole thing up. What kind of parent would take money from their child's molester?
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM
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This is what my arguments re: MJ always boil down to. I say he's innocent until proven guilty, they say he paid them off, I say that's pretty strong evidence it didn't happen.
What kind of mother.... :(
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:01 PM
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29. You are operating under the mistaken premise that all parents |
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put the welfare of their children ahead of their own greed. I would like to think that most parents would, but I know that there are plenty who would not. It only take one in a million families to provide plenty of parents who would take the money. I guarantee you the number is much higher.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:09 PM
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It's sickening, but true.
Either way, he hasn't been proven guilty and that being the case I can't rant about how he should be punished.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:19 PM
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36. You're right. He is innocent until proven guilty. |
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It looks like he is headed to trial. Whatever the truth, I can only hope that justice is done.
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Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM
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26. The same type of parents that would allow their child around someone |
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with a reputation for molesting children.
Greedy parents. They are everywhere.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:43 PM
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42. Great line from "Back to School" |
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with Rodney Dangerfield.
The Dean is about to start the ceremony to build the new building that Rodney paid for to buy his way into the school when a professor publicy says that admission to the school should be earned, not bought.
The Dean says something like 'the professor has a very valid point, but what he doesn't realize is just how large an amount of money he gave us.' Very funny, and often true.
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Wed Nov-19-03 05:54 PM
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43. Oh, I thought you meant Dick Cheney |
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Wed Nov-19-03 08:17 PM
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50. This thread is hereby declared idiotic... |
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Are you guys really going to let yourselves distracted by the latest OJ operation? Who cares! They will be devoting 90 minutes a day on every channel to the MJ case. This is how they keep YOU stupid.
This is the most important year in U.S. history coming up. Pledge now not to talk about MJ, one way or another. Stick to what matters.
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Wed Nov-19-03 10:25 PM
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51. michael did it, Kobe did it, Scott Peterson did it |
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gary condit did it...... oops. Maybe we better have Nancy Grace on Larry king decide.
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Wed Nov-19-03 10:31 PM
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52. Hey, I'd let him molest me for $20 million. But seriously, have we totall |
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totally abandoned the concept of "innocent until proven guilty"? I don't know what took place, and I suspect you don't either. I'm no fan of Mr. Jackson, but doesn't he at least deserve better than the "detainees" at Gitmo? As a citizen? There was a lot of hyperbole about the McMartin (sp?) case a few years ago, that turned out to be bullshit. How about we let the system handle this before passing judgment. Isn't that same sort of thing we objected to during the Clinton impeachment? :eyes:
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