Clark WILL Attend NH Debate!

[Avalux]

Yea! This is exciting news; happy he's gonna do it after all. Sorry if this is a dupe - from dailykos:

Clark Reschedules New York Fund-Raiser
by AKTup
Wed Nov 19th, 2003 at 22:38:30 UTC

CONCORD, N.H. - Wesley Clark has rescheduled a fund-raiser to participate in a Democratic presidential debate in New Hampshire next month.
Clark said last week he could not change his schedule and would attend the fund-raiser in New York, where he is expected to raise $1.5 million. But the fund-raiser has been switched to Dec. 10, the day after the debate in Manchester, N.H.

"Our New York supporters wanted to do everything they could to support General Clark and make sure he could attend the debate," Clark spokesman Bill Buck said Wednesday.

[Khephra]

1. Wise move

I didn't understand why he would pick a fund raiser over a debate. Good for him!

[KittyWampus]

44. The Debate Was Rescheduled Not Once But TWICE

I only just found that out this morning...

[Spazito]

2. I am very glad to hear this!

A very wise move, imo.

[Mattforclark]

3. Yay

I am glad, because it means that I will get to see him. :) I am glad that he was able to reschedule the fundraiser.

[frank frankly]

4. excellent excellent excellent

good move, Wes!

[neuvocat]

5. This is great, but...

what's going to happen with the fund-raiser?

[_NorCal_D_]

7. Looks like the date was changed

B-)

[Spazito]

8. It was rescheduled to the next night!

*

[neuvocat]

11. Good.

Clark needs to be there-a political analyst here predicted he would do so, which would be prudent.

[Avalux]

9. Next day - Dec. 10

His supporters in NY wanted him to do the debate, so they gladly rescheduled. :bounce:

[_NorCal_D_]

6. Good news!

B-)

[Donna Zen]

10. Good news...but

This is the second time this fund-raiser had to be changed, both times because the DNC changed the debate date. One would think that the DNC could do more to get their act together. Oh right_this is the DNC we're talking about.

[Bread and Circus]

12. It's kind of cool, Clark gets to be in the debate...

Thanks, New Yorkers!

[VolcanoJen]

13. Yipee-Hooray!!!!

Thanks for spreading the good news, sparosnare!!

It's great to know that they're able to reschedule the fundraiser, too!

[Avalux]

14. You're welcome

I remember a rather long thread a few days ago - why missing this debate would be bad for Clark. No worries now!! :bounce:

[Kahuna]

17. It would have been terrible for him. It could have sealed..

his fate, making the fundraiser moot.

[59millionmorons]

28. Unlike Bush

Who had had an opportunity to go to a soldiers funeral in the same state he had fundraiser scheduled, But decided the three fundraiser he had that day was more important.

[DemExpat]

15. This is great news!

Happy to see this arranged.

:bounce:

DemEx

[wtmusic]

16. This will be a must-see

Unlike our CA debates where Ahnold was a no-show.

What a wuss.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Good for him!

Good decision, but I understood why he needed the fundraiser. Will the debate be televised? On C-SPAN maybe?

[Lefta Dissenter]

19. YIPPEE YI YAY!!!! YOU'VE MADE MY DAY!!!!

Thank you SO much for posting about that. I had written to the Clark folks (as I'm sure plenty of others did) pleading with them to somehow get him there. Of course, the people involved in the Fundraiser realize the importance, as well, so THANK YOU to them for somehow managing to make the change in their event.

YEAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Renew Deal]

29. I did too.

McCain began to make his break in NH in the december debates. It would have been bad if he missed it. He would be attacked with no way to defend.

[Bertrand]

20. Im sure he did if for slinkerwink

see, you win :)

[chiburb]

21. After all, Clark is #2 on her list of...

Favorite candidates. I know it's hard to tell, but she really said that!
Clark must've seen her picture...

[chaska]

22. Yeah, she a hottie.

I wish she'd put her picture in her posts instead of Gloria Steinem ... who is no longer a hottie. Oh geez, I feel a flame comin' my way.

Great news about the fundraiser reschedule.

If we could get Slinkerwink to watch the 60 minutes piece we could convert her, I bet.

[slinkerwink]

27. lol, nope, I'm a Deaniac through and through

but this is great news that he's attending the debate.

[AmericanDem]

23. Good to hear

thanks

[mvd]

24. Great!

He needs to get the debate experience.

[Myra]

25. That's a relief!

Thanks for the news sparosnare.
I know Clark desperately needs money to
go up against the candidates who are bypassing
matching funds. But he can't skip that debate.

[Code_Name_D]

26. Wait a minute! What happend to the "Wisdom" of skipping the debate?

Oh lo and behold, the Clark critices were proven right. A bunch of you owe some appoligies.

[AmericanDem]

30. i didnt care either way

these debates are a bit worn at this point but if he feels it will help him in NH , i say more power to him. GO CLARK!

[slinkerwink]

31. oops, that's right, I remember the Clark people's defense....

so wouldn't it hurt Clark in the pocket to reschedule his fundraiser?

[Skwmom]

32. I think Clark felt he had made a commitment, the invitations

were already in the mail. However, the NY supporters were able to work things out.

[AmericanDem]

33. OH look she seen an opening to chime in

Ms. slinkerwink seen yet another Clark subject heading with signs of momentum and has to do what she can to slow it.

Thats kinda like Dean himself. he would do anything to anybody to get things to turn his way.



:puke:

[slinkerwink]

35. sorry, I feel rather nauseous....so I might...

:puke: on you...

[Name removed]

36. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[slinkerwink]

39. hey, don't you guys do the same thing?

:shrug:

[AmericanDem]

40. wow 3 or 4 post here already

and i had to prod 1 reply out of you yesterday on the subject of Deans opting out NH caps. hmmm wonder why that is? :hurts:

[Bertrand]

34. You're wrong.

nobody was saying that missing the debate was wise in itself, but that it would be wise for him not to choose it over a fundraiser which is expected to net 1.5 million.

[AmericanDem]

38. Bingo

unlike Dean, Clark stands by what he says and doesnt opt out of spending caps.

[Code_Name_D]

41. The resone why he opted out of the debate

Was becase he alreay gave his word to attend the fund raser. Now we see first hand what his word is worth. Squinto. There is nothing he says today, that he will take back tomarow. And the NH Debate is a case in point.

[WillyBrandt]

42. The unbearable lightness of being wrong

Um, dude, he managed to get the fundraiser--yes, the same fundraiser--moved (just like the initial debate was moved). Those schedueld to be at the fundraiser--they are his supporters, remember?--agreed to this because it was clearly in the campaign interest.

[Code_Name_D]

47. Flip - flop

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[retyred]

49. A much better chant

than "You have the power", nice improvement!



Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[Pastiche423]

52. Here ya go, Code

[AmericanDem]

63. Flamers like this...

Thrive off of negative bashing to suit their own needs. If its done to them by someone its a call to war. its Nonsense and this poster in particular is a leader in that area. I'm fairly new here and just about every post i seen by this guy is surrounded in ripping someone up.

[Kahuna]

65. Flamers like this are Clark's best friends...

They have caused many DUers to flip to Clark. Thanks guys!

[kiahzero]

54. ...

Way to further the political discourse

[Shakespeare]

53. Sorry, but he didn't flip-flop

He gave his word to attend the fundraiser--which had already been rescheduled once when the DNC changed the debate schedule. He's STILL attending the fundraiser--they were able to move it to the next night.

How on earth is that a flip-flop? How?

[Code_Name_D]

56. Strawman.

No one is acusing Clark of flip-flopping for his fundraser. He flip-floped with the NH Debate.

[Shakespeare]

57. Uh, no...

Not a strawman. He said there was a schedule conflict. There was. They fixed the conflict. End of story. And did Clark bitch or even publicize the fact that the DNC had already changed the schedule previously, causing him to reschedule once before? No.

You'll bitch if he doesn't attend the debate, you'll bitch if he does. Extremists bore me.

[Julien Sorel]

58. 'Flip-flopping' is done on substantive issues,

not campaign strategy or a scheduling change. Ri-dic-u-lous.

[AmericanDem]

62. What will it take to get this thru your head

The man has just started his campaign. Unlike Dean he has been around 1 year. The bigger question is why does Dean keep flip flopping on issues of impotance such as spending caps. In particular spending caps in NH against felloe Dems. His little story about needing everything to beat Bush holds no water at all when he is going against fellow Dems. knowing Dean they we know now, he will have a lil flip flop story for this very soon.

[Kahuna]

64. Another pearl of wisdom from, Code name D....

:wtf:

[Avalux]

59. No apology here

I wasn't too thrilled about Clark missing the debate - but given the choice between the debate and the fundraiser, I opted for the fundraiser. Can't be happier to hear he'll be able to do both of them. Ideal outcome. :bounce:

[Tom Rinaldo]

68. What "wisdom" are you questioning?

I for one felt, that since it was the shifting of the debate date at the last second which created Clark's conflict, that he was right to follow through on his committment to the previously scheduled major fund raiser IF it could not moved intact to another date at this late stage. As soon as the debate date was changed Clark said he would look into rescheduling his fund raiser if that were possible. That's not easy to do at that level in Manhatten on short notice. He pulled it off, better for him. There is nothing to apologize about. If Clark had completely cancelled the fund raiser to do the debate, then I might have some egg on my face. This is a non issue.

[mot78]

37. YES!

I hope that Clark doesn't have this problem again though. If there's a fundraiser the same day as his debate, he said immediately work to postpone it, and not even announce he's missing a debate.

[IndianaGreen]

43. Clark is doing this because he is going to beat Kerry in NH

Clark will come in second in NH, with Kerry a distant third, or perhaps fourth. Kerry's numbers are going South as Clark is rebounding from the loss he suffered after his less than spectacular start.

[WillyBrandt]

45. When did you become sympathetic to Clark

IndianaGreen, I thought you were anti-Clark, but you've been almost downright sympathetic recently. Do I misremember, or is it a change of opinion regarding the good General?

[IndianaGreen]

50. I will support any of the antiwar candidates, and oppose the rest

While Dean is and remains my first choice, I have warmed up to Clark since the Rock the Vote debate. I felt that Clark answered a lot of the questions and concerns I had about him during his Meet the Press appearance last Sunday.

I am at that point in time in which I am seriously considering other candidates to support if Dean were to falter or get killed in a plane crash.

I don't want any of the IWR enablers to win the nomination.

[WillyBrandt]

51. Fair enough

I'm glad you gave him a chance. We Clarkies weren't just deluded drones: the guy's great...

[Kahuna]

66. Way to go, IG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:yourock: But this is going to kill Terwilliger. :evilgrin:

[knight_of_the_star]

46. Huzzah!

I hope he's ready for this one, this could give him the second wind that he needs to win the nomination.

[MoonRiver]

48. Very, very good news! Keep spreading the messages about Gen. Clark.

I don't mind getting them in e-mails. We have to let Americans know how magnificant a leader this man truly is!
:kick:

[Leilani]

55. Leadership & National Security

Saw Mary Matlin on CNBC tonite, & she said the election will be about "LEADERSHIP & NATIONAL SECURITY."

This is great for a Clark candidacy: compare his leadership & national security skills against the Shrub.

[Ivote]

60. A SALUTE TO THE GENERAL

This definately was a decision that was made with INTEGRITY. Power to the people and thank you New Yorkers for rescheduling your fundraiser. I will be donating to try and help out. Mind you the first time I ever donated was here to the underground. Oh by the way I have to be honest (truth and fairness) I am an ex-republican Hated what happened to John McCain in sc. I believe the General made mention in his town meeting in NH that there will be hundreds of thousands of us that will be doing the same thing. We are appalled at what has happened to our country.
See my sig below. The general also said " WERE TAKING BACK OUR FLAG. WERE MOVING OUT."

[Avalux]

61. Welcome

to DU Ivote! A republican who's seen the light - good to have you here. :hi:

[Kahuna]

67. Welcome to the Wes Wing and DU! ..

:yourock: