Clark on 60 minutes II now

[Bertrand]

hope he does well.

[chimpymustgo]

1. Thanks for the reminder!

nt

[Wonk]

19. mp3, quicktime video, and transcript here

for those who missed it.

transcript part 1
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/60II/main584548.shtml

transcript part 2
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/60II/main584554.shtml

mp3, 3 M

quicktime, 38 M

[Tatiana]

25. Gosh, I love you Wonk!

I can always count on you to have important clips when I forget to tape. Thanks a bunch!

[Bertrand]

2. ugh

they have another topic on first on "the growth industry"

[Cush]

3. yup

This is sick...I have a feeling his parents are behind this, not him.

I'm a 26 year old and I'm 5'5/5'6

[Avalux]

4. Don't agree with this

It's definitely the parent's decision and this boy is not SICK - they just want him to be taller. Human Growth Hormone has side effects and when you weigh the pros and cons, not worth 2 or 3 inches. Besides - there's no long term data.

[Field Of Dreams]

5. $20,000 grand a year for this treatment?

:wow:

[chaska]

6. kick

[Cush]

7. Yup

Parental Pressure, easy to see.

When I was a sophmore in HS I went to a speicialist about growth (I was only 5'1 or so), but that's where it ended. I just went with nature.

[kentuck]

8. So was I..

But I started playing basketball and now I'm about 6 ft... I grew about 8-10 inches in a couple of years....but my middle leg remained the same..:)

[Clark Can WIN]

30. TMI

maybe?

[Clark Can WIN]

29. It is sick, all you ;have to do is look and listen to the parents

to understand they want a "perfect" family with "perfect" children.

They are teaching that kid to fix any "problems" he has with needles and drugs.

Very sick.

[juajen]

9. Well, I would say

he just picked up about a million or two million votes. He's sorta beautiful.

[glarius]

10. He revealed his true humanity!

I think he's a great man.

[Skwmom]

11. That 's what sold me on Clark.

With his humanity, there is no way he would sell out the American people.

[MoonRiver]

12. Speaking of CLARK, (or is this a growth hormone thread?)

I think he was absolutely awesome! I was calling and faxing the White House on practically an hourly basis to get them to do something about the genocide in Bosnia. I totally relate to where he's coming from!
:thumbsup:

[Jackpine Radical]

13. So how

tall is Clark?

[chaska]

14. I shook his hand.

I'm 5' 9". He was maybe an inch shorter. He's concentrated. :^) You betcha.

[Field Of Dreams]

15. And he don't need any growth hormone!

[Barbara917]

16. Clark is 5' 10"

[Skwmom]

17. When my husband and I were in Munich

we toured a museum which showed pictures of the genocide in Bosnia. In addition, we have very close friends that are immigrants from Bosnia (they just became US citizens last year). I don't understand how some people can argue that our intervention in that conflict was wrong.

[MoonRiver]

20. I don't get it either. Ending that horror should have been a NATO

mission, and eventually was. But they needed the U.S. to take the first steps, which, thank goodness, we eventually did. Clinton was under political attack so I understand why he waited so long. However, I totally comprehend Clark's frustration with seeing such atrocities going on and not having the backing of the Pentagon to stop it.

[Clark Can WIN]

31. Thanks for saying that

Because alot of us Clark supporters have been left with the impression that half or more of DU thinks Clark was the one run amok, committing genocide and having babies for breakfast.

I am proud of what he did there, and he is the kind of duly ELECTED President that I want.

[MoonRiver]

18. Me thinks this is now the "much ado about nothing" thread.

Too bad we can't just talk about our impressions of Clark on 60 Minutes 2! :eyes:

[Barbara917]

23. Well, then here is something to cogitate....

Very little of Rather's interview with Clark made it through the 60 Minutes II editing process. Here are links to complete transcipts of the whole interview.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/60II/printable584548.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/60II/printable584554.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/60II/printable584555.shtml

[MoonRiver]

32. Wow, thanks for linking that info.

Clark is incredibly knowledgeable about war, peace, and the nature of humanity. He is the absolute dream leader of this world. I can't imagine anyone more opposite to bush* than this wonderful man!
Wes, we :loveya:

[retyred]

21. That was nothing

less than Great.

The General
The Man
The Humanitarian

The next President of the United States



Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[MoonRiver]

22. I second that eMotion!

President Wesley Clark! :kick:

[NoPasaran]

24. I thought he came across well

I lean towards Dean but I think either of them will make a great president.

[Shakespeare]

26. West coasters? I'm getting a story on human growth hormone...

Are we not getting the Clark interview out here, or does it come later in the hour? :shrug:

[RandomUser]

27. Wait a little later...it's the next segment after that story

It's coming up, next segment, after the commercial break from the growth hormone story's end.

[RandomUser]

28. OMG -- Did you see Wes almost cry? Wow

There were tears in his eyes! That's incredible. None of the other candidates have shown this level of honesty and sincerity, with tears in their eyes before a national audience. If this isn't empathy, I don't know what is.

[Myra]

33. Did anyone else think it was yet another media whore attack?

Rather put him on the defensive on every issue
except for calisthentics. Then he wound up with
this (from the transcripts):

"But somewhere along the line, Wesley Clark developed a
reputation among some others -- Schwarzkopf, Shelton,
Tommy Franks -- just something about Wesley
Clark that tees me off. Has that been your experience?"

Um, how the hell is someone supposed to defend themself
against a bullshit remark like "something about tees me off"?
Would a decent journalist even ask that? What the hell?

Clark rightly dismissed it as gossip; what else can someone say?

[RandomUser]

34. It was bound to come up

And I think Clark handled it well. But the tears and passion when it came to the kosovars dying...wow.

[Tatiana]

36. It was a POWERFUL moment!

You could tell, he was totally frustrated with the fact that we'll invade other countries for oil, but we won't intervene to prevent genocide and the murder of innocent civilians.

When Rather pointed to the picture of that 5 week old baby that had died from exposure... oh my God, you could just feel the sorrow and the grief that Wesley Clark felt. I got a little watery-eyed myself.

[Clark Can WIN]

39. Shelton, Cohen and every piddle brained fudge pie

that does not understand the Kosovo war of have an ounce of humanity denounced his actions.

He's a father and a husband and a soldier who has seen the hell of war and the injustice of tyranny.

W. should be ashamed of himself for being in the same contest.

[faithfulcitizen]

41. He did cry...

and so did I. He was talking about the picture of the 5 week old baby who died from being exposed. Anyone seen that movie Harrison's Flowers? awful...

[Leilani]

35. I Haven't Seen it Yet

Show starts here in a few minutes; looking forward to watching it.

Go Clark!!!!

[Blue_Roses]

37. he did great

especially for someone who is not a political guy. That's what I like about him--humility. People seem to forget that he has never run for political office YET he comes into this election with much more to offer "politically" than bush in 2000. Hell, bush couldn't even name the president in Pakistan. And another thing--as far as Franks, Shelton, and Swartzkoff having a poor opinion of Clark then I say BE GLAD. To be admired by the likes of those warmongers is not a compliment. Why doesn't someone call these guys out for the creeps that they are. Tommy Franks makes my skin crawl.

[Kool Kitty]

38. He sure was great.

I'm proud to be a Clarkie. And I agree about Tommy Franks, he gives me the creeps.

[FrenchieCat]

40. He was excellent....

and kept me wanting more. I really liked the dive into the pool too!

[Rowdyboy]

42. Sports fan, huh...

As a gay man who loves professional swimming just like you, I really liked the dive....

[FrenchieCat]

43. Giggle!

Yes, the dive WAS excellent......LOL!