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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:11 PM
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Neo-con criminality - DoS attack on British protest site
http://www.interwebnet.org/index.cfm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1025198/posts



Does this mean Jim Robinson can be busted on RICO statuates?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:23 PM
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1. Did you save the thread? I hope you saved it.
I believe what they're doing is illegal.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:31 PM
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2. I think they pulled it already. eom
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:38 PM
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4. Well they didn't pull it early enough...hee!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:39 PM
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5. Dammit, no I didn't
Did anybody?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:50 PM
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13. YES.
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I've sent it to UK.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:43 PM
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8. what did I miss?
I didn't see anything?

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:45 PM
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11. They took a Brit protest site down with a massive email slam
Site was a link between protesters on the ground to keep track of The Chimp.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:32 PM
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3. I can't believe they were so stupid as to do something like this
and so stupid to post having done so on the Net!

I have the whole thread. I saved it just a minute or so before it was pulled!

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:41 PM
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7. Good job, you rule
Save that puppy.

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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:45 PM
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10. Can you host it on another webserver?
If not, I can. PM me the html.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:55 PM
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14. Check your PM!
It would be marvelous to see the thread back up in all its glory!
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:13 PM
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17. Ok, what you saved wasn't the html and I'm not going to reformat it but
once this thread reaches 20 posts one of us can just paste that text into a post here for DUers to see.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:13 PM
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18. nt
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:13 PM
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19. nt
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:14 PM
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:15 PM
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21. text of the FR thread here (thanks to janx) - LONG
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 04:21 PM by Wonk
FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum"

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BUSH PROTESTORS ARE USING EMAIL TO TRACK HIM - LET'S SLAM THAT ADDRESS :)
Self ^ | 11-19-03 | Self
Posted on 11/19/2003 4:17 PM MST by Martyboy1
Hey guys/gals. The protestors trying to scream their goofy comments at Bush during his England trip are going to use email and instant/text messaging on cell phones and so on to tell each other where Bush might be at any particular time...so as to organise their efforts. WELL, look at the source URL I provided. It has a photo of the poster with the email address. I suggest that we find the address they are planning on using (I can't make it out from that photo) and we can suggest to the protestors where Bush is, if you know what I mean ;) Maybe they'll get a little more mail than they can handle, thereby making their idiotic plan useless :) Sounds good to me. If someone gets that email address, I'd love to know what it is!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions; Click to Add Topic
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Let's get the address. I'd love to participate :)

1 posted on 11/19/2003 4:17 PM MST by Martyboy1
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To: Martyboy1
http://www.interwebnet.org/index.cfm

2 posted on 11/19/2003 4:20 PM MST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Martyboy1
I just found the address myself:

bush@interwebnet.org

Also found this info:
If you see George W. Bush, know of a possible location ahead of time, or have images of him (or protestors) to share, then send them to:

bush@interwebnet.org

To text information to this address, enter this email address, then a space, then your message and send to:

07766 404 142

Here's their site: http://www.interwebnet.org/index.cfm

Be advised, that phone number is a UK number. I'm assuming that's a phone number.

Have fun!

3 posted on 11/19/2003 4:22 PM MST by Martyboy1
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To: finnman69
From your link:

For those who can't be there (and in loving memory of the DoS attackers from 'free'republic.com), there is also a 'virtual march' of phone calls, faxes, emails and postcards to the U.S. Embassy in London.

4 posted on 11/19/2003 4:23 PM MST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Martyboy1
Web page instructions to those that want to "chase GWB":
If you see George W. Bush, know of a possible location ahead of time, or have images of him (or protestors) to share, then send them to:
bush@interwebnet.org
To text information to this address, enter this email address, then a space, then your message and send to:
07766 404 142


5 posted on 11/19/2003 4:26 PM MST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Martyboy1
Let the little kids play. It's really not even worth my time firing off an email to this group.

6 posted on 11/19/2003 4:27 PM MST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: Martyboy1
Just get the address to the Penis Enlargement Spam folks.. The protesters will be begging for mercy within hours as their mailbox runneth over.

7 posted on 11/19/2003 4:28 PM MST by Trampled by Lambs (...and pecked by the dove...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Their comments have been getting freeped since the site opened.
One thread is showing off a Bush poster mosaic using pics of ....anuses.
Very illustrative of the intelligence level, thinking that the poster will create world peace. LOL

8 posted on 11/19/2003 4:29 PM MST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Martyboy1
http://www.interwebnet.org/poster.htm

The email address for these jerks is bush@interwebnet.org and then some (mobile?) number 07766-404-142.

If anyone can organize a spam campaign to flood these wimps that would be awesome!

9 posted on 11/19/2003 4:29 PM MST by waterman478
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To: Martyboy1
10 mail.interwebnet.org. IP=217.33.105.33
50 relay1.e-mango.com. IP=195.217.219.250
100 relay2.e-mango.com. IP=193.130.51.188
300 ns3.e-mango.com. IP=217.33.105.250

10 posted on 11/19/2003 4:31 PM MST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Martyboy1
How do I send them a picture or a file that takes up alot of space and locks up their pooters?

11 posted on 11/19/2003 4:32 PM MST by PeteFromMontana
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Help us track George W. Bush across London!
Comment by Dick Fitzwell Posted on 19/11/2003 at 16:26 GMT
blood pudding bad
blood for oil good
hippies smell

12 posted on 11/19/2003 4:34 PM MST by UncleHambone (Climb to Glory!)
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To: PeteFromMontana
Don't send them anything. Post to newsgroups with their address and let the spammers do it for you.

13 posted on 11/19/2003 4:36 PM MST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Martyboy1
I suggest that we find the address they are planning on using .... Maybe they'll get a little more mail than they can handle, thereby making their idiotic plan useless ....
I am not sure, but that kind of semi organized attack on an E-Mail Addy is probably a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act or the Anti-Terrorism Act.
So9

14 posted on 11/19/2003 4:37 PM MST by Servant of the 9 (I am not reptilian, I just have a low basal metabloism.)
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To: Martyboy1
http://www.interwebnet.org/poster.htm

The email address for these assholes is bush@interwebnet.org and then some (mobile?) number 07766-404-142.

If anyone can organize a spam campaign to flood these dipshits that would be awesome!

15 posted on 11/19/2003 4:37 PM MST by waterman478
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To: tacticalogic
Brilliant!

16 posted on 11/19/2003 4:38 PM MST by PeteFromMontana
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To: Martyboy1
I'm sending them pictures from a hotmail account. :)

17 posted on 11/19/2003 4:39 PM MST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: tacticalogic
Computer fraud violation? Hmmm...could be...I'm not sure. BUT, I suppose you could find yourself watching C-SPAN coverage of the Pres. and all of a sudden, you think you see him in a certain section of London, so you send an email to alert your fellow protestors in the UK so they can run right over there to scream at Bush...lol I guess if you thought you saw him and you were just trying to help out the cause, that would be ok ;) Although, I don't think I'll be sending any mail to these goofs from my home email address. My parents are lucky if THEY get my home email address...hehe

18 posted on 11/19/2003 4:43 PM MST by Martyboy1
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To: Martyboy1
What fraud? You don't have to claim it's your address. All you have to do is include the email address somewhere in the message. The harverster 'bots will pick up on anything in a user@domain format.

19 posted on 11/19/2003 4:49 PM MST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Martyboy1
Bump this speech up!

President Bush Discusses Iraq Policy at Whitehall Palace in London
Remarks by the President at Whitehall Palace
Royal Banqueting House-Whitehall Palace
London, England

1:24 P.M. (Local)

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Secretary Straw and Secretary Hoon; Admiral Cobbald and Dr. Chipman; distinguished guests: I want to thank you for your very kind welcome that you've given to me and to Laura. I also thank the groups hosting this event -- The Royal United Services Institute, and the International Institute for Strategic Studies. We're honored to be in the United Kingdom, and we bring the good wishes of the American people.

It was pointed out to me that the last noted American to visit London stayed in a glass box dangling over the Thames. (Laughter.) A few might have been happy to provide similar arrangements for me. (Laughter.) I thank Her Majesty the Queen for interceding. (Laughter.) We're honored to be staying at her house.

Americans traveling to England always observe more similarities to our country than differences. I've been here only a short time, but I've noticed that the tradition of free speech -- exercised with enthusiasm -- (laughter) -- is alive and well here in London. We have that at home, too. They now have that right in Baghdad, as well. (Applause.)

The people of Great Britain also might see some familiar traits in Americans. We're sometimes faulted for a naive faith that liberty can change the world. If that's an error it began with reading too much John Locke and Adam Smith. Americans have, on occasion, been called moralists who often speak in terms of right and wrong. That zeal has been inspired by examples on this island, by the tireless compassion of Lord Shaftesbury, the righteous courage of Wilberforce, and the firm determination of the Royal Navy over the decades to fight and end the trade in slaves.

It's rightly said that Americans are a religious people. That's, in part, because the "Good News" was translated by Tyndale, preached by Wesley, lived out in the example of William Booth. At times, Americans are even said to have a puritan streak -- where might that have come from? (Laughter.) Well, we can start with the Puritans.

To this fine heritage, Americans have added a few traits of our own: the good influence of our immigrants, the spirit of the frontier. Yet, there remains a bit of England in every American. So much of our national character comes from you, and we're glad for it.

The fellowship of generations is the cause of common beliefs. We believe in open societies ordered by moral conviction. We believe in private markets, humanized by compassionate government. We believe in economies that reward effort, communities that protect the weak, and the duty of nations to respect the dignity and the rights of all. And whether one learns these ideals in County Durham or in West Texas, they instill mutual respect and they inspire common purpose.

More than an alliance of security and commerce, the British and American peoples have an alliance of values. And, today, this old and tested alliance is very strong. (Applause.)

The deepest beliefs of our nations set the direction of our foreign policy. We value our own civil rights, so we stand for the human rights of others. We affirm the God-given dignity of every person, so we are moved to action by poverty and oppression and famine and disease. The United States and Great Britain share a mission in the world beyond the balance of power or the simple pursuit of interest. We seek the advance of freedom and the peace that freedom brings. Together our nations are standing and sacrificing for this high goal in a distant land at this very hour. And America honors the idealism and the bravery of the sons and daughters of Britain.

The last President to stay at Buckingham Palace was an idealist, without question. At a dinner hosted by King George V, in 1918, Woodrow Wilson made a pledge; with typical American understatement, he vowed that right and justice would become the predominant and controlling force in the world.

President Wilson had come to Europe with his 14 Points for Peace. Many complimented him on his vision; yet some were dubious. Take, for example, the Prime Minister of France. He complained that God, himself, had only 10 commandments. (Laughter.) Sounds familiar. (Laughter.)

At Wilson's high point of idealism, however, Europe was one short generation from Munich and Auschwitz and the Blitz. Looking back, we see the reasons why. The League of Nations, lacking both credibility and will, collapsed at the first challenge of the dictators. Free nations failed to recognize, much less confront, the aggressive evil in plain sight. And so dictators went about their business, feeding resentments and anti-Semitism, bringing death to innocent people in this city and across the world, and filling the last century with violence and genocide.

Through world war and cold war, we learned that idealism, if it is to do any good in this world, requires common purpose and national strength, moral courage and patience in difficult tasks. And now our generation has need of these qualities.

On September the 11th, 2001, terrorists left their mark of murder on my country, and took the lives of 67 British citizens. With the passing of months and years, it is the natural human desire to resume a quiet life and to put that day behind us, as if waking from a dark dream. The hope that danger has passed is comforting, is understanding, and it is false. The attacks that followed -- on Bali, Jakarta, Casablanca, Bombay, Mombassa, Najaf, Jerusalem, Riyadh, Baghdad, and Istanbul -- were not dreams. They're part of the global campaign by terrorist networks to intimidate and demoralize all who oppose them.

These terrorists target the innocent, and they kill by the thousands. And they would, if they gain the weapons they seek, kill by the millions and not be finished. The greatest threat of our age is nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons in the hands of terrorists, and the dictators who aid them. The evil is in plain sight. The danger only increases with denial. Great responsibilities fall once again to the great democracies. We will face these threats with open eyes, and we will defeat them. (Applause.)

The peace and security of free nations now rests on three pillars: First, international organizations must be equal to the challenges facing our world, from lifting up failing states to opposing proliferation.

Like 11 Presidents before me, I believe in the international institutions and alliances that America helped to form and helps to lead. The United States and Great Britain have labored hard to help make the United Nations what it is supposed to be -- an effective instrument of our collective security. In recent months, we've sought and gained three additional resolutions on Iraq -- Resolutions 1441, 1483 and 1511 -- precisely because the global danger of terror demands a global response. The United Nations has no more compelling advocate than your Prime Minister, who at every turn has championed its ideals and appealed to its authority. He understands, as well, that the credibility of the U.N. depends on a willingness to keep its word and to act when action is required.

America and Great Britain have done, and will do, all in their power to prevent the United Nations from solemnly choosing its own irrelevance and inviting the fate of the League of Nations. It's not enough to meet the dangers of the world with resolutions; we must meet those dangers with resolve.

In this century, as in the last, nations can accomplish more together than apart. For 54 years, America has stood with our partners in NATO, the most effective multilateral institution in history. We're committed to this great democratic alliance, and we believe it must have the will and the capacity to act beyond Europe where threats emerge.

My nation welcomes the growing unity of Europe, and the world needs America and the European Union to work in common purpose for the advance of security and justice. America is cooperating with four other nations to meet the dangers posed by North Korea. America believes the IAEA must be true to its purpose and hold Iran to its obligations.

Our first choice, and our constant practice, is to work with other responsible governments. We understand, as well, that the success of multilateralism is not measured by adherence to forms alone, the tidiness of the process, but by the results we achieve to keep our nations secure.

The second pillar of peace and security in our world is the willingness of free nations, when the last resort arrives, to retain* {sic} aggression and evil by force. There are principled objections to the use of force in every generation, and I credit the good motives behind these views.

Those in authority, however, are not judged only by good motivations. The people have given us the duty to defend them. And that duty sometimes requires the violent restraint of violent men. In some cases, the measured use of force is all that protects us from a chaotic world ruled by force.

Most in the peaceful West have no living memory of that kind of world. Yet in some countries, the memories are recent: The victims of ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, those who survived the rapists and the death squads, have few qualms when NATO applied force to help end those crimes. The women of Afghanistan, imprisoned in their homes and beaten in the streets and executed in public spectacles, did not reproach us for routing the Taliban. The inhabitants of Iraq's Baathist hell, with its lavish palaces and its torture chambers, with its massive statues and its mass graves, do not miss their fugitive dictator. They rejoiced at his fall.

In all these cases, military action was proceeded by diplomatic initiatives and negotiations and ultimatums, and final chances until the final moment. In Iraq, year after year, the dictator was given the chance to account for his weapons programs, and end the nightmare for his people. Now the resolutions he defied have been enforced.

And who will say that Iraq was better off when Saddam Hussein was strutting and killing, or that the world was safer when he held power? Who doubts that Afghanistan is a more just society and less dangerous without Mullah Omar playing host to terrorists from around the world. And Europe, too, is plainly better off with Milosevic answering for his crimes, instead of committing more.

It's been said that those who live near a police station find it hard to believe in the triumph of violence, in the same way free peoples might be tempted to take for granted the orderly societies we have come to know. Europe's peaceful unity is one of the great achievements of the last half-century. And because European countries now resolve differences through negotiation and consensus, there's sometimes an assumption that the entire world functions in the same way. But let us never forget how Europe's unity was achieved -- by allied armies of liberation and NATO armies of defense. And let us never forget, beyond Europe's borders, in a world where oppression and violence are very real, liberation is still a moral goal, and freedom and security still need defenders. (Applause.)

The third pillar of security is our commitment to the global expansion of democracy, and the hope and progress it brings, as the alternative to instability and to hatred and terror. We cannot rely exclusively on military power to assure our long-term security. Lasting peace is gained as justice and democracy advance.

In democratic and successful societies, men and women do not swear allegiance to malcontents and murderers; they turn their hearts and labor to building better lives. And democratic governments do not shelter terrorist camps or attack their peaceful neighbors; they honor the aspirations and dignity of their own people. In our conflict with terror and tyranny, we have an unmatched advantage, a power that cannot be resisted, and that is the appeal of freedom to all mankind.

As global powers, both our nations serve the cause of freedom in many ways, in many places. By promoting development, and fighting famine and AIDS and other diseases, we're fulfilling our moral duties, as well as encouraging stability and building a firmer basis for democratic institutions. By working for justice in Burma, in the Sudan and in Zimbabwe, we give hope to suffering people and improve the chances for stability and progress. By extending the reach of trade we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty. And by advancing freedom in the greater Middle East, we help end a cycle of dictatorship and radicalism that brings millions of people to misery and brings danger to our own people.

The stakes in that region could not be higher. If the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation and anger and violence for export. And as we saw in the ruins of two towers, no distance on the map will protect our lives and way of life. If the greater Middle East joins the democratic revolution that has reached much of the world, the lives of millions in that region will be bettered, and a trend of conflict and fear will be ended at its source.

The movement of history will not come about quickly. Because of our own democratic development -- the fact that it was gradual and, at times, turbulent -- we must be patient with others. And the Middle East countries have some distance to travel.

Arab scholars speak of a freedom deficit that has separated whole nations from the progress of our time. The essentials of social and material progress -- limited government, equal justice under law, religious and economic liberty, political participation, free press, and respect for the rights of women -- have been scarce across the region. Yet that has begun to change. In an arc of reform from Morocco to Jordan to Qatar, we are seeing elections and new protections for women and the stirring of political pluralism. Many governments are realizing that theocracy and dictatorship do not lead to national greatness; they end in national ruin. They are finding, as others will find, that national progress and dignity are achieved when governments are just and people are free.

The democratic progress we've seen in the Middle East was not imposed from abroad, and neither will the greater progress we hope to see. Freedom, by definition, must be chosen, and defended by those who choose it. Our part, as free nations, is to ally ourselves with reform, wherever it occurs.

Perhaps the most helpful change we can make is to change in our own thinking. In the West, there's been a certain skepticism about the capacity or even the desire of Middle Eastern peoples for self-government. We're told that Islam is somehow inconsistent with a democratic culture. Yet more than half of the world's Muslims are today contributing citizens in democratic societies. It is suggested that the poor, in their daily struggles, care little for self-government. Yet the poor, especially, need the power of democracy to defend themselves against corrupt elites.

Peoples of the Middle East share a high civilization, a religion of personal responsibility, and a need for freedom as deep as our own. It is not realism to suppose that one-fifth of humanity is unsuited to liberty; it is pessimism and condescension, and we should have none of it. (Applause.)

We must shake off decades of failed policy in the Middle East. Your nation and mine, in the past, have been willing to make a bargain, to tolerate oppression for the sake of stability. Longstanding ties often led us to overlook the faults of local elites. Yet this bargain did not bring stability or make us safe. It merely bought time, while problems festered and ideologies of violence took hold.

As recent history has shown, we cannot turn a blind eye to oppression just because the oppression is not in our own backyard. No longer should we think tyranny is benign because it is temporarily convenient. Tyranny is never benign to its victims, and our great democracies should oppose tyranny wherever it is found. (Applause.)

Now we're pursuing a different course, a forward strategy of freedom in the Middle East. We will consistently challenge the enemies of reform and confront the allies of terror. We will expect a higher standard from our friends in the region, and we will meet our responsibilities in Afghanistan and in Iraq by finishing the work of democracy we have begun.

There were good-faith disagreements in your country and mine over the course and timing of military action in Iraq. Whatever has come before, we now have only two options: to keep our word, or to break our word. The failure of democracy in Iraq would throw its people back into misery and turn that country over to terrorists who wish to destroy us. Yet democracy will succeed in Iraq, because our will is firm, our word is good, and the Iraqi people will not surrender their freedom. (Applause.)

Since the liberation of Iraq, we have seen changes that could hardly have been imagined a year ago. A new Iraqi police force protects the people, instead of bullying them. More than 150 Iraqi newspapers are now in circulation, printing what they choose, not what they're ordered. Schools are open with textbooks free of propaganda. Hospitals are functioning and are well-supplied. Iraq has a new currency, the first battalion of a new army, representative local governments, and a Governing Council with an aggressive timetable for national sovereignty. This is substantial progress. And much of it has proceeded faster than similar efforts in Germany and Japan after World War II.

Yet the violence we are seeing in Iraq today is serious. And it comes from Baathist holdouts and Jihadists from other countries, and terrorists drawn to the prospect of innocent bloodshed. It is the nature of terrorism and the cruelty of a few to try to bring grief in the loss to many. The armed forces of both our countries have taken losses, felt deeply by our citizens. Some families now live with a burden of great sorrow. We cannot take the pain away. But these families can know they are not alone. We pray for their strength; we pray for their comfort; and we will never forget the courage of the ones they loved.

The terrorists have a purpose, a strategy to their cruelty. They view the rise of democracy in Iraq as a powerful threat to their ambitions. In this, they are correct. They believe their acts of terror against our coalition, against international aid workers and against innocent Iraqis, will make us recoil and retreat. In this, they are mistaken. (Applause.)

We did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq and pay a bitter cost of casualties, and liberate 25 million people, only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins. (Applause.) We will help the Iraqi people establish a peaceful and democratic country in the heart of the Middle East. And by doing so, we will defend our people from danger.

The forward strategy of freedom must also apply to the Arab-Israeli conflict. It's a difficult period in a part of the world that has known many. Yet, our commitment remains firm. We seek justice and dignity. We seek a viable, independent state for the Palestinian people, who have been betrayed by others for too long. (Applause.) We seek security and recognition for the state of Israel, which has lived in the shadow of random death for too long. (Applause.) These are worthy goals in themselves, and by reaching them we will also remove an occasion and excuse for hatred and violence in the broader Middle East.

Achieving peace in the Holy Land is not just a matter of the shape of a border. As we work on the details of peace, we must look to the heart of the matter, which is the need for a viable Palestinian democracy. Peace will not be achieved by Palestinian rulers who intimidate opposition, who tolerate and profit from corruption and maintain their ties to terrorist groups. These are the methods of the old elites, who time and again had put their own self-interest above the interest of the people they claim to serve. The long-suffering Palestinian people deserve better. They deserve true leaders, capable of creating and governing a Palestinian state.

Even after the setbacks and frustrations of recent months, goodwill and hard effort can bring about a Palestinian state and a secure Israel. Those who would lead a new Palestine should adopt peaceful means to achieve the rights of their people and create the reformed institutions of a stable democracy.

Israel should freeze settlement construction, dismantle unauthorized outposts, end the daily humiliation of the Palestinian people, and not prejudice final negotiations with the placements of walls and fences.

Arab states should end incitement in their own media, cut off public and private funding for terrorism, and establish normal relations with Israel.

Leaders in Europe should withdraw all favor and support from any Palestinian ruler who fails his people and betrays their cause. And Europe's leaders -- and all leaders -- should strongly oppose anti-Semitism, which poisons public debates over the future of the Middle East. (Applause.)

Ladies and gentlemen, we have great objectives before us that make our Atlantic alliance as vital as it has ever been. We will encourage the strength and effectiveness of international institutions. We will use force when necessary in the defense of freedom. And we will raise up an ideal of democracy in every part of the world. On these three pillars we will build the peace and security of all free nations in a time of danger.

So much good has come from our alliance of conviction and might. So much now depends on the strength of this alliance as we go forward. America has always found strong partners in London, leaders of good judgment and blunt counsel and backbone when times are tough. And I have found all those qualities in your current Prime Minister, who has my respect and my deepest thanks. (Applause.)

The ties between our nations, however, are deeper than the relationship between leaders. These ties endure because they are formed by the experience and responsibilities and adversity we have shared. And in the memory of our peoples, there will always be one experience, one central event when the seal was fixed on the friendship between Britain and the United States: The arrival in Great Britain of more than 1.5 million American soldiers and airmen in the 1940s was a turning point in the second world war. For many Britons, it was a first close look at Americans, other than in the movies. Some of you here today may still remember the "friendly invasion." Our lads, they took some getting used to. There was even a saying about what many of them were up to -- in addition to be "overpaid and over here." (Laughter.)

At a reunion in North London some years ago, an American pilot who had settled in England after his military service, said, "Well, I'm still over here, and probably overpaid. So two out of three isn't bad." (Laughter.)

In that time of war, the English people did get used to the Americans. They welcomed soldiers and fliers into their villages and homes, and took to calling them, "our boys." About 70,000 of those boys did their part to affirm our special relationship. They returned home with English brides.

Americans gained a certain image of Britain, as well. We saw an island threatened on every side, a leader who did not waver, and a country of the firmest character. And that has not changed. The British people are the sort of partners you want when serious work needs doing. The men and women of this Kingdom are kind and steadfast and generous and brave. And America is fortunate to call this country our closest friend in the world.

May God bless you all. (Applause.)

20 posted on 11/19/2003 4:52 PM MST by Solamente
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To: Martyboy1
Oh, I tried but I couldn't resist.

21 posted on 11/19/2003 4:56 PM MST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: Martyboy1
Help us track George W. Bush across London!
Ha! Looks like their website just went down!!! getting a 404 error now.

22 posted on 11/19/2003 4:59 PM MST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: AgThorn
Ha! Looks like their website just went down!!! getting a 404 error now.
Probably had to unplug from the net and reboot.

23 posted on 11/19/2003 5:01 PM MST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: AgThorn
Ha! Looks like their website just went down!!! getting a 404 error now.
Probably had to unplug from the net and reboot.

24 posted on 11/19/2003 5:01 PM MST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: Solamente
bump!
And thanks! ;-)

25 posted on 11/19/2003 5:03 PM MST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Snowy
Oh, excuse me! It appears I'm repeating!

26 posted on 11/19/2003 5:03 PM MST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: AgThorn; tacticalogic
Must be a wildly popular website, huh?

27 posted on 11/19/2003 5:07 PM MST by Freemeorkillme
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To: unix
ping for some interesting evening watching

28 posted on 11/19/2003 5:09 PM MST by Freemeorkillme
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To: Freemeorkillme
I don't know if their web server crashed, or what. I can ping the address, but that's about it.

29 posted on 11/19/2003 5:09 PM MST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: AgThorn
I sent them a note telling them he was in London and included an attachment. If you have seen the "Big Cup of STFU" poster, you will probably appreciate its appropriateness here.

30 posted on 11/19/2003 5:10 PM MST by Poser
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To: Martyboy1
we can send sms messages to their cell phones? One sms and protesters go to the wrong place: How about BBC?

31 posted on 11/19/2003 5:10 PM MST by longtermmemmory
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To: tacticalogic
Excellant!!!

32 posted on 11/19/2003 5:13 PM MST by LittleJoe
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To: Martyboy1
left a message:

"I saw him at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect."

now if someone knows the full lyrics to 'werewolves of london' send that too.




33 posted on 11/19/2003 5:15 PM MST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: Doctor Raoul; Cacique; RaceBannon; kristinn
ping!

34 posted on 11/19/2003 5:19 PM MST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh: The Voice of Sanity during 8 years of the Clinton Reign of Terror)
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To: tacticalogic
Figures. interwebnet.org in Amsterdam.

35 posted on 11/19/2003 5:24 PM MST by Freemeorkillme
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To: Martyboy1
Thank goodness these protestors are getting the truth out...lol (sarcasm) Why does it always see to be the maggot-infested, granola-smoking hippie types that we see at these protests? Where are all the 'regular' folks? Oh, that's right...they're at work earning a living. They don't have time to protest something in the streets every other day :) Some of these photos are really funny...



36 posted on 11/19/2003 5:27 PM MST by Martyboy1
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To: Martyboy1
Just like a lib; attempting to shut down free speech that you don't happen to agree with. Very unbecoming for a conservative.

37 posted on 11/19/2003 5:35 PM MST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: Solamente
Thanks for posting the President's speech. I was looking for it.

38 posted on 11/19/2003 5:35 PM MST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Martyboy1
They look like mainstream Democrats.

39 posted on 11/19/2003 5:39 PM MST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
Not necessarily free speech. It's one thing to walk around with posters, but quite another to damage private property, assault police, etc. Libs are well known for this type of behavior.

P.S. Give War A Chance
Our boys on the 'Daisy Cutter' (Vietnam days)



40 posted on 11/19/2003 5:46 PM MST by Martyboy1
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To: MaskedMarauder
You are proposing a denial of service attack which is illegal in the US. But, of course, the law is of no importance to FReepers.
Hey, I told 'em not to send anything. Whaddaya want?
Anyway, spam filters will filter almost all of what you're proposing to send so your damage will be minimal. Have fun boys and girls.
We always do! Hooya!

43 posted on 11/19/2003 6:10 PM MST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Martyboy1
Make sure you include a BIG attachement to the email... like 60 megabytes or so...

44 posted on 11/19/2003 6:14 PM MST by observer5
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To: Martyboy1
LOL! Would they be inhabitants of Earth?

45 posted on 11/19/2003 6:16 PM MST by NRA2BFree (You can have your very own ad here for ONLY $19.95...but wait...there*s more...)
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To: Martyboy1
On the 8th picture down there*s someone holding a sign that says "I love you George." LOL! Did you see it? That*s priceless. :)

46 posted on 11/19/2003 6:21 PM MST by NRA2BFree (You can have your very own ad here for ONLY $19.95...but wait...there*s more...)
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To: Solamente; Martyboy1
What a wonderful, wonderful speech. And then you contrast it with the goons that Martyboy has so kindly posted for our enjoyment...

I think we're on the winning side, guys!

47 posted on 11/19/2003 6:22 PM MST by livius
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To: Martyboy1
Keep watching the site as the email address may change soon. Note also it's shown on the site as a GIF image, not as text the spam harvesters could use.
Create a throwaway email address to send from, like "leftists-stink@yahoo.com". If you use our own address they will probably retaliate.

48 posted on 11/19/2003 6:28 PM MST by Heatseeker
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To: finnman69
One thread is showing off a Bush poster mosaic using pics of ....anuses.
They're going to be sorry, eventually, that they cut up their high school yearbooks that way.

49 posted on 11/19/2003 6:40 PM MST by firebrand
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To: Heatseeker
I took the liberty of signing them up for a Yahoo account with the Chasing Bush address, and of course I asked to be notified about anything and everything they cared to share.

50 posted on 11/19/2003 6:44 PM MST by UncleHambone (Climb to Glory!)
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To: MaskedMarauder
So you're saying the law would be broken but it won't work anyway. So the law wouldn't be broken.
Hey, nice of you to join 15 days ago. Tell your friends at DU hello.

51 posted on 11/19/2003 6:46 PM MST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Martyboy1
Liberals have the minds of small children. They're just having a temper tantrum because their team lost. Pathetic, isn't it?
It's sad, because it's the truth. Every time you listen to ANY liberal , replace their adult body with a childs body, and it's exactly the same. You'd think you were their baby sitter. Try it!
Right now, they're playing a telephone game - "Hello? Is your refrigerator running? Well, then you better go catch it! Giggle giggle."

52 posted on 11/19/2003 7:22 PM MST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
Just get the address to the Penis Enlargement Spam folks..
LOL. Good idea. Anyone looking for porn? Free e-mail address available!

53 posted on 11/19/2003 7:31 PM MST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: Martyboy1
I saw George! He's here!

Wave to the nice people, George...

54 posted on 11/19/2003 7:36 PM MST by whoozit
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To: WOSG
LOL..........
Love the message.

55 posted on 11/19/2003 7:43 PM MST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Martyboy1
I don't understand it, but I think I love it!

56 posted on 11/19/2003 7:55 PM MST by The UnVeiled Lady
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To: Martyboy1
Are you worried that Bush is going to get his feeling hurt by British demonstrators?
Regards
J.R.

57 posted on 11/19/2003 8:02 PM MST by NMC EXP (Choose one: party principle.)
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Where is George?

58 posted on 11/19/2003 8:03 PM MST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: AgThorn
Voidstar
... EMAIL OR TEXT THE TIME AND LOCATION TO: bush at interwebnet.org To send a text,
enter the email address, then a space, then send to: 07766 404 142 Images of ...
www.voidstar.com/ - 60k - Nov 18, 2003 - Cached - Similar pages

UK Indymedia | ChasingBush: SMS Tracking Website Live + ...
... them to: bush-at-interwebnet_ dot_org To text information to this address, enter
this email address, then a space, then your message and send to: 07766 404 142. ...
www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/280726.html - 18k - Nov 18, 2003 - Cached - Similar pages

main
... Syndicate Super Club. Just Text the word SYNDICATE to: 07766 404 142
from your mobile to become an instant member of our Text Alerts.
www.thesyndicate.org/text_alerts.htm - 2k - Cached - Similar pages

interwebnet.org - Chasing Bush Poster
... To send a text, enter the email address, then a space, then send to: 07766
404 142. Images of protests and exclusion zones are also welcome. ...
www.interwebnet.org/poster.htm - 2k - Nov 18, 2003 - Cached - Similar pages

RESISTBUSH
... W. BUSH, EMAIL OR TEXT THE TIME AND LOCATION TO: bush@interwebnet.org - To send
a text, enter the email address, then a space, then send to: 07766 404 142. ...
www.resistbush.org/events.html - 19k - Nov 18, 2003 -

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=07766+404+142&btnG=Google+Search

59 posted on 11/19/2003 8:05 PM MST by ptrey
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To: concerned about politics
from their website 19oo hrs pst- guess they noticed.by the by Manic has a blog and a huge amount of free time...

:: Free Speech Posted by Manic on 20/11/2003 at 00:56 GMT
The Chasing Bush site exists to protect our right to free speech, which has been so badly eroded here and in the United States.

The site has been down for the last hour or so because of the 3rd flame/troll/DoS attack from a site populated by people who also claim to support this principle.

Go figure.

60 posted on 11/19/2003 8:05 PM MST by francisr (bring it to them)
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To: Martyboy1
From the looks of this croud, they aren't ready for a free society.

61 posted on 11/19/2003 8:21 PM MST by oyez
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To: firebrand
.... cut up their high school yearbooks...
Are you sure they got that far?

62 posted on 11/19/2003 8:23 PM MST by oyez
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To: Martyboy1
I just sent the buggers an email asking them to explain what a Watermelon is. It is basically a fruit that is green on the outside but may be red or yellow on the inside.

63 posted on 11/19/2003 8:43 PM MST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: firebrand
They're going to be sorry, eventually, that they cut up their high school yearbooks that way.
Bwahaahaha!

64 posted on 11/19/2003 9:28 PM MST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Martyboy1
Some US Cell Phone companies offer price plans for calls to Europe which are the same as calling inside the US. If not you can always visit http://www.bigzoo.com and sign up for an account that does not reveal your true phone number. It only costs about $0.04 to call europe via their calling card.

65 posted on 11/19/2003 9:48 PM MST by Dr. Marten (To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge)
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To: tacticalogic
It's now on my personal website (in black text so it can not be seen with the eyes) in the infamous emailto: etc@etc dot com...so the spam bots will harvest it from the source code. Even if it is shut down, it will give the spam bots one more fake email for their adress compilations.

66 posted on 11/19/2003 9:49 PM MST by Indie ("death was our business....and business was good" -MACVSOG)
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To: Martyboy1
Man RATS are ugly!!

67 posted on 11/19/2003 9:50 PM MST by Indie ("death was our business....and business was good" -MACVSOG)
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To: Mudboy Slim; sultan88
a little high jinks against the radical-lunatic-Left.

68 posted on 11/19/2003 10:07 PM MST by jla (http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
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To: Martyboy1
They are really upset over there. It seems FR has according to them anyway, crashed their site. Actually, they weren't really very rude about it, but do say something about how we believe in free speech! :-)

69 posted on 11/19/2003 11:25 PM MST by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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From that site...

"For those who can't be there (and in loving memory of the DoS attackers from 'free'republic.com), there is also a 'virtual march' of phone calls, faxes, emails and postcards to the U.S. Embassy in London. For more info see Our World Our Say"

lmfaoooo, I love it!!!

70 posted on 11/20/2003 12:14 AM MST by RBurke (Proud Freeper)
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To: UncleHambone
Excellent! I sent them the largest picture of W I could find, a BMP of course (no compression) as an attachment.
Now I'm thinking the Chase Bush folks might be interested in helping an amazingly large number of Nigerian civil servants with cash-flow troubles.

71 posted on 11/20/2003 2:11 AM MST by Heatseeker
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To: Indie
If you really want to mess with the spam-bots, check out a little piece of freeware called wpoison.

72 posted on 11/20/2003 5:46 AM MST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
bump ottday these guys are tracking Bush. Who wants to play where's Waldo?

73 posted on 11/20/2003 7:01 AM MST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: waterman478
Here's what you do:
Take a BIG file, like a sound file, rename it as a JPEG, make them think it's one of those photos they've solicited with a ".jpg" file extension, and send that to them!

Tie up their server big time.

74 posted on 11/20/2003 8:26 AM MST by Redbob
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To: Martyboy1

Ya knw what's scary? The one in blue on the right is a GUY!
;0)

75 posted on 11/20/2003 9:21 AM MST by Chad Fairbanks (All I want is a warm bed, a kind word and unlimited power.)
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To: Martyboy1
On their site now. ROFL.


"Site currently down due to hackers.
Hopefully back soon."


I think they are just embarassed to be defending the same scumbags who set off the car bombs in Turkey at the HSBC bank and the British Consulate.

76 posted on 11/20/2003 9:54 AM MST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Redbob
From their web site now: (1:00 pm CENTRAL TIME)
Site permanently down.


Sorry guys, we've been informed by our hosting company that they're pulling the plug due to the DoS attacks.

Its really unfortunate that a group claiming to represent the right to freedom of speech would do this.

We live in sad times.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

77 posted on 11/20/2003 12:02 PM MST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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Be careful, guys! What goes around COULD come around to us FReepers!

78 posted on 11/20/2003 1:05 PM MST by lizbet (If we don't start buy American made things, we won't have any jobs.)
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To: All; Recovering_Democrat
The site is back up.
About 6 hours before the current thread was posted, I started this thread (click here) with the BBC story about them and with info and a link to their site.
The leftists' site posted a notice as of about 5 minutes before my FR post saying that they were under a spoofing attack.
The point is that their site was under attack before any FR posts about it.
I emailed them the "Bush won't back down" photo and posted several times on their message board. (BTW, the message board now seems closed to new posts unless you have some key or trick, probably an "I hate Bush" tattoo on your bum.)
However, I put this post (click here) on the thread that I had started:
BEGIN QUOTE
Please do not attack, hack, encourage or justify those or similar illegal or questionable actions against the web site.
Such activity just poisons the whole internet and could lead to similar attacks against FR. On the other hand, if someone wanted to email them at bush@interwebnet.org with an opposing opinion or post an appropriate dissent on their message board, there is nothing wrong with that.
I didn't start the thread to encourage misbehavior. FReepers should behave as almost all almost always do.
END QUOTE
With a further request that FReepers behave (post or email to disagree with the Bush chasers wihout doing anything illegal or improper such as DoS attacks), I'll get off my soap box.

79 posted on 11/20/2003 1:05 PM MST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Martyboy1
Your enthusiasm is admirable -- but producing spam isn't a good idea.

80 posted on 11/20/2003 1:06 PM MST by Bush2000
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To: Martyboy1
I think this thread should be taken down, it basically calls for a denial of service attack.

81 posted on 11/20/2003 1:12 PM MST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:32 PM
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23. Excellent. Did you notice how one guy (BillF?) tried the CYA
technique near the end of the thread, insisting that the site was under attack BEFORE the freeps started in?

Pathetic.

They keep referring to things they're reading somewhere (Indymedia)? I'd like to figure out where they are getting that information.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:33 PM
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24. LOL it took them 81 posts
"gee, do you think what we're doing might be a crime?"


Duhhh!
:dunce:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:41 PM
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6. Holy shit! It links back to me! Screw you Freeps!
LOLOLOL!

:bounce:

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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:44 PM
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9. The "back" link goes to whatever page you looked at previously.
Copy paste the link into another browser window, load it, and you'll see that the "back" link returns you to whatever page you had open in that other window previously.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:46 PM
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12. Awwww
I thought I was a known communist now, or something.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 03:58 PM
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15. I noticed the same thing. I clicked on "OK" and it took me
back to this thread. I thought they had seen this one and had linked it somehow! But alas, such was not the case.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:09 PM
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16. I want to see that.
post a location.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:19 PM
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22. Keep this thread kicked!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 04:42 PM
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25. I saved the thread yesterday
....but forgot to post it here! I'm glad someone else picked up on the criminality. This is just another example of the lawless freepers and their brownshirt tactics.

Someone should send this to that lawyer in Fresno who's defending the county against Robinson's law suit for FR being called a "hate" site.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:51 PM
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27. Here's another thread on the same subject--not as blatent.
I think this one preceded the other one:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1024977/posts


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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:49 PM
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26. kick
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