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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 05:55 PM
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UK even tries to blame Clinton. Who was the jerk?
Said all this was planned under Clinton even if it was carried out under Bush. What a crock!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 05:57 PM
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1. All part of Operation BlameClinton
an ongoing high-intensity military campaign.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 05:58 PM
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2. i'm confused. the illegal invasion of iraq was planned under clinton? did
these fools read the pnac letter to clinton and assume that he instigated the whole thing?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:00 PM
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3. Yep. All planned under Clinton
You know that time you stubbed your toe and it really hurt? You can blame Clinton. And that time that Girl you really liked wouldn't go out with you? You probably didn't notice Clinton lurking around the bushes near her house.

It's all Clinton's fault.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:02 PM
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4. His name is Jack Straw...he's been brown nosing Bush & Blair since
before the attack on Iraq....He's a real yes man...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:27 PM
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5. Not to piss on the parade but Clinton was ready to start this war
Clinton DID incessantly bomb and sanction the &^%$ out of Iraq for 8 years straight. Please don't fall for the propaganda that we Dems are so pure and 'they' are so evil. Both parties are working off the same master plan. Disgustin and sad but true. It's unfortunate that we are so uninformed thanks to a clever media. The 2 party system is rotten to the core with both parties serving the same corrupt MIC.

Time for us to look at ourselves in the mirror if we really want to see change. This is the same charade as Vietnam where both parties co-operated.

Clinton was all for attacking Iraq and had even sent Madeline Albright and Sandy Berger out on tour to drum up support for a war but they were pelted and booed by activists, students, and military veterans as an appalled world watched. Our biggest problem is that most of us, most Dems dangerously slept through all of that because a Dem was in charge. We need to wake up pronto! Clinton was NOT the great White Hero some are making him out to be. He was DLC all the way and serving the same masters as Bush.

We cannot bury our heads when our hyposcrisy is unmasked- not if we really want to change things in the best interests of our country.

Sorry for pissing on the parade... Really

'Things worth fighting for'

COLUMBUS - President Clinton's foreign policy team met yesterday at Ohio State University with a rowdy crowd in a town hall meeting to discuss the current situation in Iraq.

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Secretary of Defense William Cohen and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger met for 90 minutes with a crowd that often yelled and chanted in protest of possible U.S. military action against Iraq.

Albright said the goal of the meeting was to "explain the policy ramifications" of the Iraqi situation.

"Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here," Albright said.

Defense Secretary William Cohen, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger prepare themselves yesterday before the International Town Hall Meeting during which all three were pummelled with harsh questions from an audience at Ohio State University's St. John's Arena.

The discussion was interrupted early and often. Protesters began chanting anti-war slogans during Albright's opening comments and continued through much of the debate.

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"We will send a clear message to would-be tyrants and terrorists that we will do what is necessary to protect our freedom," Berger said.

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http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/feb/02-19-98/news/news1.html


Clinton team jeered during town hall

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Facing tough questions from America's heartland, the Clinton administration's foreign policy team tried to make the case Wednesday for U.S. military action against Iraq. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright called Iraq's disputed weapons arsenal the "greatest security threat we face."

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Joining Albright on a red carpeted-stage in the center of a basketball arena were Defense Secretary William Cohen and National Security Adviser Samuel Berger. They were interrupted several times by chants from a noisy audience that included students as well as uniformed members of the military and veterans.

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When one questioner said as many as 100,000 Iraqi civilians could be killed in an attack, Albright replied, "I'm willing to make a bet that we care more about the Iraqi people than Saddam Hussein does."

Berger sought to frame the dispute in broad, strategic terms. He said the world could not afford to allow Iraq to flout the will of the international community.

"The lesson of the 20th century is, and we've learned through harsh experience, the only answer to aggression and outlaw behavior is firmness," Berger said.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/iraq/iraq172.htm

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Other questions sharply challenged U.S. authority to launch an attack on Iraq, given a lack of support from Iraq's neighbors. Berger said the United States is seeking to protect the world's long-term interests in limiting the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

"In the 21st century, the community of nations may see more and more of this very kind of threat that Iraq poses now, the rogue state. ... If we fail to respond, Saddam and all those who follow will believe that they can threaten the security of a vital region with impunity. But if we act now as one, we will send a clear message to would-be tyrants and terrorists that we will do what it takes to protect our security and our freedom in this new era."

Earlier today, Clinton's press secretary said there was little hope for optimism about reaching a diplomatic solution with Saddam Hussein.

"There's been no indication from the government of Iraq that would lead anyone to be optimistic," presidential spokesman Mike McCurry said in Washington. "There's only been obstinacy, concealment, deliberate lies about past practices, no indication of a willingness to do the necessary, which is to live up to their international obligations."

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http://www.channel4000.com/news/stories/news-980218-154354.html
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Iraq rally at OSU backfires
Boos greet pleas to support attack


COLUMBUS - In a raucous town meeting Wednesday, President Clinton's national security team found that not all of the heartland is behind bombing Baghdad.

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Defense Secretary William Cohen and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger were dispatched to St. John Arena at Ohio State University to seek public support as the United States nears air attacks on Iraq.

But an audience of 5,000 loudly called - and cat-called - for both war and peace in a media event gone awry for the Clinton administration.

The security team - when they were allowed to speak - insisted that the United States will not be deterred from raining destruction on Iraq if leader Saddam Hussein, an ''armed and dangerous bully,'' insists on hiding and stockpiling chemical and biological weapons that threaten its neighbors.

The meeting made for compelling TV during a live 90-minute international broadcast exclusively by CNN, but left moderators Bernard Shaw and Judy Woodruff periodically flustered as the three Clinton advisers faced repeated jeers.

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http://www.cincypost.com/news/1998/iraq021998.html

Ain't No Waggin' this Dog

By James L. Hirsen, J.D., Ph.D.


Wednesday's televised discussion could be called the Ohio debacle. The public relations campaign to garner support for military action in Iraq backfired in a most extraordinary way.

The hawks of the Clinton administration were trotted out in a "town hall meeting," an event that was a hallmark of Bill Clinton's presidential campaigns. Unfortunately, it proved to be an explosive episode where the baby-boomer, campus radicals of yesterday met up with some fiery, college activists of today.

The whole world was watching as Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, and National Security Adviser, Sandy Berger, struggled through opening statements while members of the audience frequently interrupted with hoots and jeers. What the administration's merchandisers were attempting to sell was clear. They wanted to convince people that the time to start a bombing campaign is now. But a sizable portion of the crowd wasn't buying their pitch. In a tribute to demonstrations from the sixties, Secretary Albright mused philosophically while protesters boisterously chanted, "One, two, three, four, we don't want your racist war."

This CNN exclusive was presumably staged to show the world an informed and unified citizenry. Instead it presented a divided, uncivil and generally hostile crowd. In the days to come, the White House will be laboring to answer the question-why did this event fail so miserably?

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http://www.firstliberties.com/aint_no_waggin_dog.html
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