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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:54 PM
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my daughter called from school today
and said she`s coming home for an hour because there was a recruiter talking to her english class. so my wife had to call my daughter off. she told the sec. that we felt that our daughter didn`t have to listen to him since we don`t believe in this war. she also said a few more things about bush and his war.the sec said that she understood how we felt and it was ok that our daughter left class. to bad more kids didn`t do this. there`s alot of high school guys who don`t know what`s going to happen to them if we all vote bush out.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:59 PM
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1. Good for your daughter. I'm glad she is aware.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:59 PM
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2. Good for your daughter!
Mine would've done the same.
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:02 PM
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3. when i started getting college letters...
all sayin send stuff here for more info and stuff... i decided to start saving it all, just in case, u know, i recently cleaned it all out, 2 trashbags full, and there was TWICE as much recruitment crap coming than from colleges (i had 2 full trash bags of college and recruitment letters, one bag full of the recruitment ones alone, the rest split up between a dozen colleges or so)

i only recently found out that you can opt out from recieving things from recruiters, but you have to call the school before the send off the lists thier junior year. and you ARENT TOLD about this opt out. a bunch of crap? no?

-LK
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:04 PM
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4. Give your daughter
A (((BIG HUG))) for me!!!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:39 PM
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5. It's good she is strong willed enough, and that self aware.
It is unfortunate that she walked out instead of listening and thereby missed out on a chance to learn.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:52 PM
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6. same here, but........
what would've happened had she stuck around and challenging the premise of these creeps' presence in the first place?

I know, that would be asking a lot of anyone, much less a high school student, but it brought this story immediately to mind (something I saw years ago)

Unlikely to appear on any 'greatest films' lists and not a work of enormous import or influence even on a national scale, Michael Verhoeven's black comedy is notable nonetheless on several levels and from several perspectives.

In itself it is the often funny, sometimes disturbing tale of a young woman's attempt to document the history of her home town during the Second World War against the wishes of the amassed forces of past and present repression. It is based on the true story of Anja Rosmus, but the script, written by the director, is fictionalised to the extent that he claims it is concerned not with particular events in one woman's life, but the attitudes lurking beneath the surface in any German town. It is a witty and pointed probe into the uncomfortable spaces of hidden history.

The film may be approached on one hand in terms of the obvious feminist content. It concerns itself with a woman's struggle not only to assert herself, but to play an active role in the formation of society. Centred on a strong performance from Lena Stolze, the character of Sonia emerges as a single-minded, self-realised individual whose determination to uncover the truth is related to her refusal to accept the role which has been assigned to her by society at large. But it is not so naive as to suggest that this struggle does not have its costs, and it is neither triumphalist nor trendy in its treatment of this particular issue.

We might also examine the film in terms of its meditation on the role of history. It is centrally concerned with a particular moment in history in a particular country which has importance on a world scale (the Nazi regime in 1930s and 40s Germany). Yet it serves as a microcosm for societal attitudes to the war, and to issues about the how past serves, informs and continually underlies the present in any town in any country. There is always a story that no one will talk about, and a part of history still blurred by the emotions of survivors and their descendants. Though it is often said that history is written by the winners, this film looks at just what that means for the Truth.


http://indigo.ie/~obrienh/nastg.htm
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:57 PM
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7. Why challenge them?
It isn't necessary to challenge everyone. Sometimes simply listening to them, letting them present their message w/o challenge, can be very informative. particularly when you are talking to someone, like a military recruiter, who's opinion you are not likely to change.
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