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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:00 AM
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Paul Krugman on AARP
www.nytimes.com/2003/11/21/opinion/21KRUG.html Once again Krugman gets it right.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:07 AM
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1. I agree, Krugy....
always gets it right!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:13 AM
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2. Good article!
I always look forward to his columns. Thanks for the link.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:17 AM
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4. This bill is all about privatization....on medicare and social security..
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 09:18 AM by Gin
the real problem is the cost of drugs in this country....we subsidize the drug companies for R&D...and then pay out the ass for the drugs.

That lobby is as powerfull as the NRA.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:46 AM
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8. I was listening on CSPAN-2 to Senator Dorgen and others...
at what I think was a committee hearing on drugs from Canada and the senators hammered the FDA guy, it was very interesting!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:46 AM
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15. Same scam as the Energy Bill...
Privatize with for-profit companies, but still use taxpayer subsidies & ratepayers to foot the bill for infrastructure.

If we were treated as investors instead of cash cows, I may consider it an option.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:16 AM
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3. It's always been tied to insurance
"Over the years AARP has become much more than an advocacy and service organization for older Americans. It receives more than $150 million each year in commissions on insurance, mutual funds and prescription drugs sold to its members." From Krugman's article.

It isn't "over the years", it's ALWAYS been that way:

Dr. Ethel Percy Andrus, a retired high school principal, founded AARP in 1958. AARP evolved from the National Retired Teachers Association (NRTA), which Dr. Andrus had established in 1947 to promote her philosophy of productive aging, and in response to the need of retired teachers for health insurance. At that time, private health insurance was virtually unavailable to older Americans; in fact, it was not until 1965 that the government enacted Medicare, which provides health benefits to persons over age 65. Dr. Andrus approached dozens of insurance companies until she found one willing to take the risk of insuring older persons. She then developed other benefits and programs, including a discount mail order pharmacy service. Over the years NRTA heard from thousands of others who wanted to know how they could obtain insurance and other NRTA benefits without being retired teachers. After ten years, Dr. Andrus realized the time had come to create a new organization open to all Americans. Today, NRTA is a division within AARP.
At a time when older persons could not obtain life, health, or automobile insurance easily, Mr. Davis found innovative approaches to solving this problem. In 1963, he founded the Colonial Penn Group, Inc., a major insurance company, which offered unprecedented health and auto insurance for the elderly. This became a model for subsequent plans throughout the insurance industry. While serving older Americans, his professional career flourished and his company became one of the nation's leading insurers.

http://www.aarp.org/leadership/Articles/a2003-01-13-aarphistory.html

As a friend and colleague of Dr. Ethel Percy Andrus, Mr. Davis was closely involved in establishing the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP), and later served as its Honorary President. Mr. Davis's commitment to the cause of older Americans brought him to testify before Congressional committees on issues related to aging and he was a delegate to the 1970 White House Conference on Aging. Mr. Davis and Mrs. Andrus were closely involved in the legislation of Medicare by Congress.
http://www.upenn.edu/ldi/davis.html

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:19 AM
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5. Thanks for your post. Posted Krugman's article on AARP message board!
:dem:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:50 AM
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9. Got Link?
Would like to see the responses.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:10 AM
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12. I would too
:D
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:44 AM
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14. OK - Found it
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:32 AM
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6. Thank you once again, Paul Krugman.
And we get this zinger as a bonus:

"...the other big piece of legislation marching through Congress, the energy bill, makes the Smoot-Hawley tariff look like a classic of good government."

Ha ha!
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:43 AM
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7. Fantastic article...
everyone should read it.
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:24 AM
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10. Krugman is one of the best
He completely nailed it.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:09 AM
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11. Does Krugman read DU?
or at least somebody working for him? :tinfoilhat:

Just wondering because he took a gander at the AARP boards, just like we did this week:

Many of AARP's members feel betrayed. The message boards at the organization's Web site have filled up with outraged posts. A number of those posts say something like this: 'Now you're just an insurance company.' Indeed, that may get to the heart of the matter

I liked the Smoot-Hawley zinger too. Ha Ha. Classic. :D
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:13 AM
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13. I <3 Krugman....
I'm surprised his talking points don't get more national attention.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:40 PM
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16. kick
:kick:
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 12:14 AM
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17. Call AARP now 800 424-3410 and tell them how much you hate this republican
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 12:24 AM by Oracle
bullshit to privatize Medicare for the corporations, vouchers, bill (800 424-3410) Krugman has it right.
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