So tell me about Senator Jim Jeffords

[retyred]

Since jumping ship I haven't followed much of what Jeffords has done with regard to helping the Dems on key votes, he was touted as being very moderate as a Republican and the Republicans trashed his jump pretty heavily was his move a big help to the Dems?



retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”
read the book

[Hep]

1. You didn't know? Jeffords is an idiot

Dean supporter. He might as well have never changed affiliation.

[wysimdnwyg]

2. Did I miss something?

Are you saying that Dean supporters are idiots?

[Hep]

6. It's the popular mantra here

I've finally given in! All Dean supporters are either idiots, losers, brainwashed, coerced, paid, or closet republicans.

Didn't you get the memo?

[TheZoo]

10. Bwahahahahaha

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo - or the joke.

Sorry :shrug:

[wryter2000]

11. Whoo-hoo!

It's official. I'm an idiot. Worse, I'm a republican. I've been voting democrat all my life just to fool you. I thought I had you fooled, but you knew me for what I was the entire time. A mouth-breathing, freeper, democrat-wannabe idiot.

How did I know that supporting a democrat would be my downfall? I guess I'll just go on over to freerepublic where I belong.

Thanks for helping me see the light!

[Hep]

14. That's more like it

Don't you feel better? ;)

[wysimdnwyg]

15. Well, for one, I am offended

I am no idiot, I don't consider myself a loser, I'm certainly not brainwashed or coerced, I make no money whatsoever for my affiliation and I'm so far from being a repug as to cause firey arguments both with family and friends.

Perhaps you have bought into the flow of hate and jealousy that some followers of other candidates wish to put forth. But to classify those of us who back Dean as any of those things is rude and uncalled-for.


On edit: OK, now I'm seeing the light. This was a joke. Sorry if I got a bit upset. I'm just tired of the hate. (And at work, there's a lot, what with all the repugs.)

[Hep]

18. Sorry you feel that way!

When you wake up from this dream you're having about Dean being electable, let me know!

[jeter]

26. Bottom line, if Dean isn't electable than no Democrat is

Because I have no idea how any other Democrat, including Wesley Clark, is better than Dean in the electability department. They all poll about the same. One poll will show Clark doing better, another will show Dean. That means they are probably doing the same.

So someone explain to me how Dean is not electable where others are.

[TheZoo]

3. Wow

Nice unbiased opinion.

[Hep]

8. Drink your kool aid and leave me alone!

Is your snow white robe itchy? Dean is the new moonie! Give him your money and buy into his dogma. He promises a better world. He must be stopped.

[terrya]

4. Well, thanks for tarring all Dean supporters as idiots. eom

[Hep]

9. I'm doing the lords work

:)

[0007]

13. LOL!! Jeffords is a good man and any one not knowing that isn't hip, 'eh?

[eissa]

5. Go to this site

to see his voting record
http://www.vote-smart.org/

[retyred]

19. Followed the link

Thank You! Jefford is quite liberal in his voting.

Vote to pass a joint resolution that would authorize the use of force against Iraq……. No

Vote on an amendment that would expand the definition of hate crimes… Yes

Vote on a procedural motion that would have allowed consideration of an amendment to increase funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act by $15.8 billion…..Yes

Vote to propose a constitutional amendment prohibiting the physical desecration of the U.S. flag….. No

Vote to adopt the concurrent resolution to approve an 11-year budget plan that calls for a 10-year package with $350 billion in tax cuts, a $400 billion Medicare overhaul and $791 billion in discretionary spending for fiscal 2004……No

Vote to pass a bill banning a medical procedure, which is commonly known as, "partial-birth" abortion….No

Vote to adopt a conference report on a bill that would reauthorize for six years, the federal agriculture programs….Yes

Vote to pass bill to fund HIV medical treatment through 2000…..Yes

Vote to pass a bill that would appropriate $86.5 billion in supplemental spending for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan, in Fiscal 2004…..No

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retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”
read the book

[mrgorth]

7. Hep is being sarcastic and rightly so.

[Hep]

12. No way, man, this is the new me

I'm totally sold. After all this time, I'm finally convinced that Dean is a monster and everyone who supports him is a traitor to liberal ideals. I'm going to post fifty times a day to get that point across to all of you mindless twerps who are dumb enough to support that indian hating, corporate friendly whacko.


Or something...

[terrya]

16. Did you discover something REALLY bad about Dean?

Like he's the Anti-Christ?

Please tell me...is Governor Dean the agent of Satan?

We need to know this stuff.

[Hep]

22. That's exactly right

Dean iss the agent of satan. You got it just right. The information came down the pike just recently.

It's so important that we get the word out ASAP!

It gets worse. Back in 1989, Dean was seen drinking a can of New Coke, and just last week, he was seen with COKE CLASSIC!

Talk about your flip flop artists.

[wryter2000]

17. This is all very funny, but

It doesn't answer the question about Jeffords.

Frankly, I don't have an answer. Except that I occasionally get fund raising letters from Jeffords asking me to support people who appear to be very good. Howard Dean was one. Reid from Nevada was another.

I'm hoping the other New England Republicans will follow suit and either become dems or independents. New Englanders in general are a different breed. They're Republican by tradition, but they don't march in lockstep to anyone's drummer. I wouldn't mind having Chaffee, Collins, and Snowe in our camp.

[retyred]

20. To All

Please stay on topic, I really need to know your thoughts on Jeffords! Thank You!



retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”
read the book

[Hep]

23. Here

This is just how stupid the man is:

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:YqAt-gSUbh4J:rutlandherald.com/hdean/54358+jim+jeffords+howard+dean&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[retyred]

24. Foolish maybe, stupid No!

retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”
read the book

[creativelcro]

25. I love the depth

of Hep's arguments. They reveal deep understanding of the issues. It's the type of analyses that keep America going! Keep up the good work Hep, you are conveying your message very effectively. You just convinced me that there is something good about Dean, just because you think he's an idiot. -CV

[DianeK]

21. he is my senator

and i have almost always voted for him even when he was a republican...he was a republican before the rabid right wing hijacked that party and his decision to leave that party was a very difficult one for him to make..he truly is a moderate but fiscally conservative..represents very well the people of vermont..we are very proud of his courage and i can't see him losing his position any time soon....and for all those who thought his leaving the party was a stunt to get face time on the tv could not have been more wrong..jeffords happens to be one of those senators you rarely see because he does not like that spotlight...a bit refreshing for someone in his position