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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:24 PM
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Clark says ( again) that the Republicans stole the election
got to love it. Wes Clark posts on the blog from a handheld.


took aim at the latest RNC ad, which accuses opponents on attacking Bush while he's attacking terrorists...NO!

I'm attacking Bush because he ISN'T attacking terrorists but has put us in a mess in Iraq instead..in 2000 the Repubs stole the election - now they're trying to steal Patriotism--i won't let them get away with it!


http://wes.forclark.com/story/2003/11/21/181536/13
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:27 PM
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1. A Democrat? Fighting back?
Love to see it! The second thing I love to see are all the "concerned" pundits, wringing their hands and trying to sell the snake oil that by fighting back, Clark is going to alienate a significant portion of the electorate; or that by mentioning the stolen election, he's in danger of looking like he hasn't "gotten over it."

Keep swinging, General! And the rest of you candidates, too.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:33 PM
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24. Good going, but I have a serious gripe about this webpost from Clark
Wesley Clark wrote:
now they're trying to steal Patriotism--i won't let them get away with it!

I'm sorry to nitpick like this, but did a candidate for president of the United States--hell, my candidate for president of the United States--just write "i"? Honestly, "i" with a lower case i, just like some lovestuck, heart drawing, poetry spewing, Plath-worshipping 11th grade bow-head?

I love Wesley Clark and I even love poetry. But, Jeez-Louise, lose the angst-ridden poser cliche use of the lower cased "i" for the first person singular. If you can't use the damn shift key, how can I trust you to have your finger on The Button?

Shit, I'll bet he paints his toe-nails black.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:03 PM
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29. Posted Via Blackberry
Shift key is damn small on that thing.

DTH
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:14 PM
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32. i didn't know that's who i was, til now.
thanks...from now on i know how some rule-driven secretlystuckinmiddleschoolprick will judge me.

and yes...i am lovestruck with the general...and have been known to draw hearts that say i love wes in the middle...but..i know how to use the shift key but on a blackberry and even in my own emails i don't.

i don't paint my toenails black...in fact i don't paint my toenails at all.

and this is just such silly judgmental crap that i can't stand it.

bet he can whip your ass, boy...even if he paints his toenails black.

but, instead, i bet he would just laught...and so will i.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:18 PM
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33. Please tell me you are joking
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 09:18 PM by Blue_Chill
The man takes time to reply and even take a stand. But you are slammin the guy over not having his staff edit the damn thing like everyone else?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:32 PM
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2. a Democrat swinging back
and the pundits shosked!

I tell you what is this country coming to?

:evilgrin:

Let the pundits be shocked, General keep hitting them HARD....

You Dean and Kucinish ARE FIGHIING BACK

:bounce: :bounce:
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:38 PM
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3. good for someone to say it openly
Clark has made a bunch of good public statements lately, but came across sounding too GOP Lite on corporate regulation. He's scored a lot of points for bringing up 911 and the elections, good for him.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:42 PM
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4. He can say it! Dems who rolled over in 2000, can't,
without looking insincere. But if Gen Clark is NOT on record as saying that 'Bush is legitimate', then he can go ahead and make 2000 an issue!!

But I remember seeing Gephardt, just after the selection, saying. "Well, if Bush isn't legitimate, then who is?", or something equally repugnant. How can he say anything now???
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:55 PM
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7. Clark is on record praising Bush, Cheney & Co more than a YEAR after
the stolen election. So Selection 2000 apparently didn't upset him too much. He obviously thought they were plenty legitimate until very recently, when it became more convenient for him to start mouthing a different line.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:58 PM
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10. Praised what they were doing right.
I wouldn't want a candidate who couldn't find the largeness of spirit (as Clark can) to praise even those he disagrees with when they are right.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:14 PM
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17. Excuse me. If you praise Bush AFTER he stole a presidential election,
it shows that you don't really believe the stolen election was a very serious problem. It means you accepted Bush as a legitimate president -- at least until roughly the time you yourself started seeking the Democratic nomination.

This recent Clark phrase about "praised what they were doing right" is a laughably transparent way of skirting the real issue. The real issue is that he obviously had NO PROBLEM AT ALL with the stolen election, until he himself became a potential candidate. It didn't bother him, & he was singing Bush's praises at Republican fundraisers well over a year after it happened.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:19 PM
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34. blah blah blah
Clark is doing what the other rats won't. Slam him all you want it won't change reality.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:33 PM
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41. LOL! Here's a little "reality" for you --
From the Nov 16 Meet The Press transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: “A great team. We need them there.” And then on January 22, 2002, at Harding University in Arkansas, again, you added to that. Let’s watch.
(Videotape, January 22, 2002):
GEN. CLARK: I didn’t say this earlier, and I should have. I tremendously admire, and I think we all should, the great work done by our commander in chief, our president, George Bush, and the men and women of the United States armed forces.
(End of videotape)

Within a few weeks of that day, on Feb. 17, 2002, Dennis Kucinich gave a speech in LA, in which he said:

Let us pray that our nation's leaders will not be overcome with fear. Because today there is great fear in our great Capitol....It is present in the camouflaged armed national guardsmen who greet members of Congress each day we enter the Capitol campus. It is present in the labyrinth of concrete barriers through which we must pass each time we go to vote. The trappings of a state of siege trap us in a state of fear, ill equipped to deal with the Patriot Games, the Mind Games, the War Games of an unelected President and his unelected Vice President...

IOW, on almost the same day 21 months ago that Clark was smooching Bush's ass, Kucinich was speaking the truth. Do you notice any difference between these two quotes, regarding what the two men really felt about the stolen election?

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:10 PM
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43. U gotta adjust the needle on your broken record...
it's getting tiring.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:21 PM
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40. oh get over it. He was praising the Afghan war.
don't put words in his mouth.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:06 PM
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14. I don't know about him...
Talk is cheap. I'm leary of him. The only one that I think might be on the up & up is DK and who know about him. We are in trouble with the rich. They are making it hard for us all around.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:09 PM
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15. So did Kennedy...
I take it you have a point or are you just bored:)?
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:26 PM
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20. Clark is diplomatic
He was the hometown-boy-made-good at a Republican dinner in a small city. He had recently retired and had returned to the place where he had grown up. He was being diplomatic. Remember diplomacy? It actually used to be an esteemed trait in a leader. It's a quality many of us are looking for in an era when we are alienated from the rest of the world. The last thing we need is another ideologue. We want a strong leader who can stick to his guns when it's warranted but who's flexible, has people skills and can actually listen to different points of view.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:42 PM
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46. Yes! We new new leadership. And we need it right now.
Clark is da man!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:30 PM
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22. Military folks are expected to be outwardly loyal to the...
"Commander in Chief." There are some
things that concern me about Clark (and
I've discussed them elsewhere so won't
rehash them here), but this isn't one
of them.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:31 PM
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23. So he's running as a democrat because...
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:00 PM
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28. ...Because...ask *him*
I assume it's because military people inwardly
can have minds of their own and have whatever
party affiliation they want.

And when they're retired they don't have to
be outwardly loyal to the Commander in .
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:52 PM
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5. Wesley kicking mucho Repuke ass!
Keep it up, bro!
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:53 PM
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6. Love this line in Wes's blog entry.
"...took aim at the latest RNC ad, which accuses opponents on attacking Bush while he's attacking terrorists...NO!"

And that would be Hell NO!

Keep after them, General.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:55 PM
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8. Clark is getting more Presidential every day
Isnt he? He just looks like a President should look, and then add in those obvious brains and spunk...
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:58 PM
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9. Nice words
I like it!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:59 PM
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11. Clark thinking and talking
like a winner!
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:00 PM
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12. Excellent
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 07:01 PM by LittleDannySlowhorse
Keep it up, Wes! We need more like you. The refusal of Dems to stand up to these shitheads is why we keep getting creamed at the polls.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:01 PM
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13. This man is SO IMPRESSIVE!...I'm a non-American...I'd welcome him
as president....He has global knowledge and and a sane outlook...I believe he'd soon have all the international fences Bush demolished mended. The more I see him, the more I like him...He was awesome last night on Letterman...:)
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:13 PM
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16. Good job Wes.
I will be more open to him as a potential Prez after he has earned his liberal stripes but I am glad he is in the race and keeping the heat on Bush.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:20 PM
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19. Off topic
Sterling, everytime I try to use a logo from that site ( the OU site)they last about a week, and then they get ticked off or something about the linking.....
I'll try again.

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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:52 PM
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26. Which site?
Boomer Sooner!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:54 PM
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27. OU Sooners.net
Boomer Sooner!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:17 PM
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18. Wes Clark to appear in Chicago on Sunday
General Wesley K. Clark will attend a fundraiser hosted by www.illinoisforclark2004.com and “C” Company’s Chicago chapter on Sunday, November 23 at 4:00 PM, at the Rock Bottom Brewery, One West Grand Ave., in Chicago. Recommended contribution to attend this event is $75.00. Please RSVP by e-mailing: rsvp@illinoisforclark2004.com. A copy of the invite as well as a contribution form is available at: http://www.illinoisforclark2004.com/downloads/1123rockbottom.pdf. We ask that you bring the contribution form with you. We look forward to seeing on Sunday!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:27 PM
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21. Can't help but love this guy.
He knows what needs to be done, and hallelujah he DOES it!

:yourock:

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:41 PM
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45. Amen to that! Wes has got to win! He's our only hope..
With Gore out of the running, Wes is the only one who can return sanity to America.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:38 PM
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25. Way to go, General!
I like it when Democrats fight back! :thumbsup:
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:04 PM
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30. GOOOOOOO CLARK!
This is awesome!

DTH
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:19 PM
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31. What a statement?
Now that's what "Kicking Ass" is all about.

1 for each candidate
:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

And one for Move On
:kick:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:34 PM
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35. Clark!
What a man! He just may steal my love for Clinton. :loveya:
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:47 PM
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36. I dunno Cat...
Everytime I see that photo of the Big Dog on your post, my heart flutters just a bit.

I love Wes already, tho...so who knows what can happen in eight years.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:00 PM
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42. Clinton and Clark....
2 excellent Democrats. Both good looking and both kicked Ass!

Same Initials and both Rhode Scholars from Arkansas.

There's a reason that I like them both....

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:39 PM
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44. That because the pic is B&W. Everybody looks good...
in B&W. Where can I get a black and white photo of Al Gore? :wow:

Seriously though. That is a great picture of Clinton. Clinton, Gore and Clark. What magnificent faces for our democratic leadership.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 05:48 PM
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47. here ya go
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:48 PM
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37. Yes indeed!
The General is the man to fight this fight. They CANNOT question his patriotism. It's not gonna happen. Give 'em hell General! :bounce:
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:11 PM
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38. Clark is definitely a Dem with backbone
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:14 PM
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39. Hey, we got a bonified Democrat warrior kicking Repuke bu##!
How sweeeeeet it is! :loveya: General Clark!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 06:23 PM
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48. Cool and
true.
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