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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:44 AM
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Final vote on Medicare is near
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 02:48 AM by Newsjock
Watch the fun on C-SPAN. 13 minutes to go.
Edit: Thanks for the correction. This is "almost" the final vote.

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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:47 AM
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1. almost
right now they are voting on the motion to recommit. if this fails a vote on final passage will occur.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:48 AM
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2. Jeez, it's like Jeopardy.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 02:49 AM by forradalom
Vote on motion to recommit the conference report with instructions

Repub Yea 3 Nay 128
Dem Yea 113 nay 0

7 minutes to go
phoo.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:52 AM
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3. Almost...never too late to complain...and rightfully so...
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 02:53 AM by Oracle
AARP # 800 424-3410...make a note for Monday & Tuesday and...let's go....we'll stop this Bush bullshit, and HMO, vouchers corporate bullshit...it's wrong!
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:56 AM
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4. Any congressperson who votes for this dog needs to
realize what a can of worms they are opening up. I think the senior vote will no longer be repub/dem, it will be who supported this dagger in their back and who fought it. Repukes once again underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:02 AM
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8. let them vote for it,
the seniors will hang them one and all.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:01 AM
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5. Vote on full conference report is up
A 15 minute vote. This is it folks
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:01 AM
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6. failed
motion to recommit failed, now requesting a recorded vote on final passage.
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:02 AM
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7. this one's gonna be close
15 republicans already voting nay. this is gonna be a close one.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:04 AM
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11. 15!? What's the number we need-18?
That's encouraging!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:03 AM
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9. Looks like it's goiong to be a nay!!!!!
yay!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:04 AM
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10. There are 17 Repub defectors to the Nay side so far
total 168 Yea 183 Nay
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:05 AM
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12. 189 Nay 172 Yay 11 minutes remaining
17 Repubs voting Nay
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:06 AM
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13. 192 Nay, 178 Yea 9 min remaining
tick tick tick
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:08 AM
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15. 195 Nay , 180 Yea, 19 republican nays!!!!! 8 min remaining.
wow
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:09 AM
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196 nay 182 yay, 7 min
(hum Jeopardy theme)
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:10 AM
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19. 197 nay, 183 yea, 20 Republican nays, 5 min remaining
this baby's going down down down
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:11 AM
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20. OMG, yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please let this bill fail, Lord!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:13 AM
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23. Jesus loves you
and He voted nay
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:12 AM
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21. 198 nay 186 yeah, 4 min remaining
Sings to the tune of Rolling Stones "Shattered": "Don't you know this bill is going down down DOWN DOWN!"
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:14 AM
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24. 203 Nay 187 Yay; 22 Republican defectors to Nay!!! 2 min.
Stick a fork in it!!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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28. Count down!
39...38...37...
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:16 AM
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31. Spoke too soon...we're still waiting.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 03:28 AM by forradalom
211 NAY 202 YEA

AND A WHOPPING 24 GOP DEFECTORS!

Note: 6 Democratic defectors. Who are they I wonder?

:bounce: :toast:

On edit: There's no time remaining, but the totals keep changing, dag nabbit.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:19 AM
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35. YEA!!!!!!!! Pop the Champagne!!!
Woww, what a rollercoaster!! :toast:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:21 AM
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38. Hey now. I thought time was up.Are they still voting?
Anyhow the Nays are still ahead. although there are now 7 Democratic cross-dressers.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:26 AM
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41. I was told in another thread we need 218 votes
And the gap is closing. 212 -207. Not good.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:27 AM
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42. Crawling towards 218 votes: now 213...
208 yea.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:29 AM
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43. OH #*(W# it's tight 213-210
It IS coming down to one vote.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:31 AM
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47. Come ON!! Who is "Present!"
I want to know who each Dem is that crossed and voted for this corporate giveaway, they need to be shut out in the next primary!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:42 AM
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55. 214 Nay-213 Yay! Oooog it's tight! But the 'Pukes have no more votes!
there are 7 Dems who haven't voted yet.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:48 AM
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62. Yeah! Who's the ass who voted Present?
We need one lousy vote and we have 2 left!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:16 AM
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29. God loves us all!!!!!!!!!!!!
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever made those Repubs cross the aisle, maybe their consciences, maybe their own mothers and fathers... they did a good thing.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:18 AM
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32. I bet it wasn't easy, either with Bugman breathing down their necks
Props to the Republican Aisle-Crossers!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:20 AM
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36. Yes! Seemed like there was a lot of arm-twisting on the Repug side. n/t
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:14 AM
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25. lol! "Shh-Shh-Shhh-Shattered! Uh, Shadoobie!!"
Love it!
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:09 AM
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17. OMG---it's gonna FAIL!!
The seniors must be burning up those phone lines, giving those repukes what for!! I thought it was political suicide to vote for this dog, I guess a few smart repukes realized this.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:08 AM
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14. This is WILD 17 crossing the aisle....................oops 18 eom
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:08 AM
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16. failing
it looks like it's going to fail. who the hell voted present?!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:09 AM
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18. This will be a huge defeat for DeLay and Rove
This and the energy bill in the same day.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:12 AM
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22. Delay must be running around like a chicken w/o it's head
too many arms to twist all at once. Ohhh, his corporate masters will be none too pleased!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:14 AM
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26. Good, let him sweat.
Fucker.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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27. And Democrats are finally showing party unity and spine
What a great victory!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:29 AM
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45. Spine yes, unity no...10 Dem defectors
damnation.
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:16 AM
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30. solidarity
good dem solidarity on this vote. along with 23 reps so far realizing what a disaster it is.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:18 AM
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33. Now the defectors start to jump in
6 Dems yea
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:19 AM
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34. uh oh
6 dems have just crossed the aisle. this is going to come down to 1 or 2 votes.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:20 AM
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37. you're kidding me!
TRAITORS!!!!
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:21 AM
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39. i say again
who the hell voted present? this is coming down to 1 vote.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:23 AM
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40. present? wtf?!? nt
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:29 AM
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44. 3-vote margin, ARG!
210 yay, 213 nay, 1 present

Clock's been at zero forever, it seems.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:30 AM
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46. Repubs have only 2 votes left. 212 nays, 214 yays
Damn I need a drink.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:34 AM
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48. here ya go
:beer:
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:35 AM
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49. who's missing on the dems side?
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:36 AM
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50. Thanks. Total hasn't moved from 214 nay 212 yea for a while now.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 03:37 AM by forradalom
sheesh.

On the bright side, there are 26 republican aisle crossers!
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:40 AM
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51. Where are those guys anyway?
I bet they fell asleep in the cloak room. Somebody, quick call and wake 'em up!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:41 AM
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54. A slight pause while The Hammer looks for his electrodes?
I haven't seen any blood yet but DeLay must be working on those Republican nay voters.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:43 AM
Response to Reply #54
56. Can the Repub nays change their votes?
There are still 26 Pug nays.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:45 AM
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59. They usually ask after the vote if anyone wants to change
A lot of times they wait to see how the wind is blowing.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:41 AM
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52. Repukes have exhausted all their votes!
Now it's up to the 7 remaining Dems! NO AISLE CROSSERS!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:41 AM
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53. How long has this 15 minute vote been going on? 40 minutes?
What a cockamamie body. No wonder Americans are confused by politics.
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danbee46 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:44 AM
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57. Great word
I haven't heard the work "cockamamie" in a long time, but it sure fits the situation.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #53
58. Get a beer, pick my crochet project, this is going to be a while
by the look of things.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:47 AM
Response to Reply #58
61. 217 Nay 215 yay, TWELVE Democratic aisle crossers
One more vote!
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:46 AM
Response to Reply #53
60. what dems voted for this crock o'huey?
I wanna make a list
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secretshopper Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:51 AM
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65. I'm with you whirlygigspin
It makes so little sense for the Dems to split, but I have to say I'm glad 26 Reeps bailed on this stinker.

Those 12 Democrats ned to get reacquainted with the party platform, I think.

As I watch, it's 218 Nay, 215 Yea, 1 NV. Is the one Present the rep from DC? I vaguely remember she can't really vote anyway...

Secret Shopper
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:49 AM
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63. @@@YESSSSS!!!!@@@@ 218
215 yeah
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:50 AM
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64. Is it over? Finally?
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:57 AM
Response to Reply #64
68. No, they haven't gavelled it.
Tom Delay is probably twisting arms. The sound is off on CSPAN so we don't hear the Repub defectors' screams.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:51 AM
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66. Is this a Twilight Zone episode I missed?
This vote seems to be in some suspended time universe.
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danbee46 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:52 AM
Response to Reply #66
67. Great job..
... by Pelosi and this nation's seniors.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:57 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. and to DU members
and a lot of other people too.

You can fool the rest of the nitwits and Rush fans, but the seniors won't fall for no bushit. Yihaw!

*should we predict the resignation of Mr.AARP soon?
-just wondering-
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:58 AM
Response to Reply #67
70. I fell asleep before Nancy spoke.........
and woke up right at the end. She was good heh?
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:05 AM
Response to Reply #70
73. Nancy...
Was absolutely one of the best speakers.
And there were a ton of great ones.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:59 AM
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71. 219 Nay One Dem vote remaining
Haven't seen any votes change.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:02 AM
Response to Reply #71
72. Now is when The Hammer comes down
DeLay's turning on the juice. Watch those 25 Republican nays start to melt away. It's hardball time.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:08 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. Ah, F%$#$. One repub changed back. But the rest are holding fast
Gavel it already!
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:20 AM
Response to Reply #74
75. here's the part when Booger-hollow Tn
gets the new freeway exit in exchange for screwing the seniors.
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:23 AM
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76. time
c-span announcer just stated this vote has been going on for an hour and twenty minutes!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:24 AM
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77. Delay playing games
no doubt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:27 AM
Response to Reply #77
78. Twisting arms out of their sockets.....
over on the right side...just saw that arm being twisted straight up in the air!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:30 AM
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79. 4:28 AM - DeLay better end this before the sun comes up
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 04:35 AM by Snellius
Or he won't have time to get back in his coffin.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:32 AM
Response to Reply #79
80. heh heh! Good one!
:-)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:40 AM
Response to Reply #79
83. There are days I wonder
and yes the arm twisting is amazing
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:34 AM
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81. Can any of these guys........
who already voted change their vote now? And why the one hold out if it isn't going to change the outcome no matter which way he/she votes?
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:37 AM
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82. yes, right now Delay is screaming at someone to change
their vote (prob. repub defector). The holdout has probably promised Delay his vote if he can change 2 back to the yea column.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:43 AM
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84. Well, I kind of thought that..........
I knew Delay was doing something to someone somewhere. Seems to me there should be a time limit to this or you could go on forever twisting arms. I dunno.....I'm tired. All I can say is woohoo! if we manage to hold on. Thanx much for the info annagull.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:47 AM
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85. In theory this is a fifteen minute
vote, quite the fifteen minutes

Mr Einstein you are right, relativistic times do affect
Congress
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 04:48 AM
Response to Reply #84
86. Good Night!
Hopefully we can hold on...who knows, they may still be at it when we all get up in the morning!
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87. OMG OMG.........
can you believe those lilly livered scums?? I can't believe this!! I stayed up all night for THIS!!!!GGRRRR
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