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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 02:52 AM
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we need to start calling republicans names, and no I don't mean repuke
names like Social Darwinist, theocrats, we need to refer to their ideal world as a lassaiz-fairyland. We need to permeate the debate with terms like these - there most basic ideas - even those which are not radical on the surface need to become subsumed under the label of radical. Basically we need to do to conservatism what has been done to liberalism over the years. We have to point out that they're trying to play a game of chess with checkers pieces - in fact - use that! People here often state that we need to fight back implying that the "fight" must be rude. We need to get back to the point were we were years ago when they lived in the ivory towers and we were the ones with a grip on reality.
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CSI Willows Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:05 AM
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1. But do we really want to sink down to their level?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:07 AM
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3. sink to their level?
Using clever terms like "lassaiz-fairyland" is not sinking to their level.


Cher
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CSI Willows Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:27 AM
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7. true
clever names isn't,
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 09:19 AM
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24. Yes, we do
They've lowered the bar so many times against us - and succeeded.

If we don't play the game as they do, we're toast.

Winning is what counts now, I no longer care how. These evil people are going to rape and plunder and ruin many peoples' lives. They must be stopped.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 10:34 AM
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26. Please let's stop using this phrase! The question is - do we want to win?
Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 10:40 AM by calimary
Vince Lombardi was right - "Winning is everything. It's not a sometime thing, it's an all time thing... There's only room for one place, and that's first place."

My dad had that on a plaque hanging in his office.

The point is TO WIN. Pure and simple. The methods our side has been using so far - mainly involving playing nice and abiding by the rules and not stooping to "their level" (yeah, I know, I know, we don't want to become like them).

Actually, I DO want to become like them. I WANT TO WIN. REPEAT. I WANT TO WIN. If that's what it takes to seize - and be able to heal and renew and repair and REDEEM - the national agenda, then YES. BRING 'EM ON.

It's high time we fought back. Only - we should do it with style. And good, catchy, easy-to-remember buzzphrases that roll quickly off the tongue.

I would NOT use "fascist." Too many semi-literates out there who've paid no attention to history - to whom that term would mean nothing. Furthermore, it harkens back to the demonization by the rightwing - of those of us "leftie, commie, pinko, peaceniks." It would be easy to dismiss us.

No. We need some modern day buzzphrases.

CHEAP-LABOR CONSERVATIVES is useful. Could become powerful and annoyingly sticky for the bad guys if it's repeated often enough. They'd be put on the defensive and have to explain why they aren't (as in - when did you stop beating your wife?).

CHARGE-AND-SPEND rethugs - this is a mantra that also should be repeated until it seeps deeply into the national consciousness. A good answer to their knee-jerk "tax-and-spend" derision of Dems.

Maybe also CHICKENHAWKS or DUTY-AVOIDERS, or some such term to underscore the reality that most of these avid war-mongers never bothered to get their own hands dirty when they had a chance to serve their country.

How about COUNTRY-CLUB CONSERVATIVES - to underscore that they are interested EXCLUSIVELY in looking out for the elites - and NOT you and me.

Maybe RED-INK REPUBLICANS - to emphasize how their disastrous policies are bankrupting this country and many of the people in it. Kicks the legs out from under their own oft-repeated claims that they are the party of fiscal responsibility.

Maybe RE-BLOODY-CANS? To remind people that the blood of this illegal, immoral war is on THEIR hands.

Perhaps RIGHTWING MULLAHS - to underscore the connection between the radical religious nutcases and what's supposed to be a separation-of-church-and-state government structure. In fact, we could go so far as to refer, repeatedly, to people like John Ashcroft and Orrin Hatch and Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and all those other crackpots as the Mullah Ashcroft and the Mullah Hatch and the Mullah Falwell and the Mullah Robertson. Repeat and repeat and repeat until you've not only ensured that everybody's heard it at least once, but that it's starting to sink into the collective consciousness. Then it'll be picked up, and reacted to, and built upon.

How about "Republi-CONS"? This should be a direct and oft-repeated response to anyone who describes us as "the Democrat Party" or other sneaky-ass insinuation designed to deride and belittle. EMPHASIS on the last syllable. Somebody else posted here about the use of the word "CON." It's everything they're about, anyway. Conning the American people. Then we could extrapolate out - "Republi-CON-JOB" and "Republi-CON-ARTIST" and so on.

It's not name calling, per se. It's proper labeling. It's truth in advertising. All we're doing is calling it what it is. And calling them what they are.

on edit - forgot a couple of ideas
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:06 AM
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2. Leverage of language
Symbolic sayings serving snakes

Forked toungues splattered for business sakes

Corrupted images and ideas abound

Poisoned by their fanged bites of sound.

(When I'm drunk I write poetry. Forgive me.)
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:13 AM
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4. As long as you're focused on the truth, go for it.
I'm all for name calling, as long as it's ACCURATE. I don't even object to candidates engaging in name calling, so long as it isn't used as a substitute for issues.

I'm so sick of all the BS about "civility" and playing nice and kowtowing to the most stupid people on Earth (U.S. citizens). The Democrats used those tactics in 2002 and 2003 and got their butts kicked.

If they haven't learned anything since then, what good are they?


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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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5. I'm looking for a short way to say "Cheap Labor Conservative".
Because "cheap labor conservative" is just too long. It's spot-on, but it's too long. There must be some iconic figure or common word that sums that idea up, but damned if I can find it.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:44 AM
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11. I just call them Cons cause.........
after all, their hero's are convicted felons.....and it's short for Conservative. :-) Has a bad connotation to it.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:06 AM
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14. ha! i like that - CONS!
says it all doesn't it, short and sweet. cheap labor cons is good too!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:23 AM
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6. BAD Republicans...................
borrowing this from someone else posting yesterday. Borrow and deficit Republicans. BAD, I like the sound of that.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:29 AM
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8. fascist
the word is facist. It rolls off the tongue, sounds nasty, and is an exact political description of what they are.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:42 AM
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10. YES!
BINGO! Fascist (or however it's spelled. Hey, it's 3:48 AM by my watch!) is THE word. I think even a two syllabled word is simple enough for even the most brain-dead right wing doornob to comprehend.

Lu Cifer
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:28 AM
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17. Fascist is what I've used for some time.
It really gets on the nerves of old-time repugs, and the young ones seem too stupid to even be insulted.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 03:37 AM
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9. how about
"Hitler-ific"?
"RepubliKKKans"?
"Bushitler"?
"Rushitler"?
or, keep it simple:
"ASSHOLES!"
Sorry. I needed some comic relief! I'm killing me! Join me! Damn, there's that spirit of Bill Hicks again. Man, I am a psychic lightning rod today.

Lu Cifer, politely reminding South Floridians that when the light is RED, YOU STOP! THANK YOU!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 07:38 AM
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12. how about Red Ink Republicans?
or "Sanctimonious hypocrites"? Cheap labor Republicans?

A few of my favs. two of which are from Sen. Harkin.

Julie
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 07:54 AM
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13. How about fucken scumbags
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:19 AM
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15. Conniveing Whiners, Takers, and ChickenShit Assholes
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:25 AM
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16. fascist
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

It seems to me that at least some of that definition could certainly apply.
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snrfmaster Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:29 AM
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18. Bushdraft.com
We need to start calling them CHICKENHAWKS Like they are

go to Bushdraft.com to see the truth about how bush is planning a draft, send it to every college kid you know and every parent you know. we need their votes and if they see this they'll vote against him
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 10:01 AM
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25. Hi snrfmaster!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:34 AM
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19. fucken scumbags
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-03 08:45 AM
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23. bush & his brown nosers
bush & his butt lickers
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